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“Are Women Really Human?” asks the MGTOW meme of the day

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MGTOW Friday continues with this lovely meme, found in the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit.

You’ll be happy to learn that most of the MGTOWs commenting on the meme do in fact believe that women are human, and possibly even deserving of some of the same rights as men.

“Women are human and have certain human rights,” says someone calling himself Whiskeybandit67. “They are assholes, but human.”

Ayy-Mayy-ZoSuperwoah, meanwhile, thinks it’s “twisted” to say that women aren’t human.

Yeah women don’t really contribute much value to humanity, but that doesn’t make them less than human. Whoever wrote this is deranged. Deprive them of the right to vote maybe, and maybe to work some jobs, in other words, strip some circumstantial privileges, but to strip them of human rights? Like what, exactly?

I guess this is what passes for a voice of reason on the MGTOW subreddit, huh?

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Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

3 percent? Pishaw! So craven. Surely, at least… say 60%?

MexicanHotChocolate
MexicanHotChocolate
3 years ago

What MRAs don’t know about history and anthropology could fill a library. Women not only contributed to civilization, they practically invented it in the neolithic when they realized they could just plant the seeds they’d been collecting.

Bina
3 years ago

Women invented agriculture and beer brewing. What have MGTOW contributed to their own keep? I don’t see any of them “helping” with my garden, and I wouldn’t want them underfoot anyway…pesky, useless, noisy fuckers.

violetvolume
violetvolume
3 years ago

Why, oh why, do these men never just actually go their own way? For a group of people supposedly dedicated to living their life without women they certainly seem to talk about them QUITE often.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
3 years ago

I suppose it’s good that the MGTOWs are getting more exercise, jumping to conclusions.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

Women make babies. Isn’t that what’s got the White Supremacists getting their balls in a twist: this business in which white women aren’t having Superior Aryan babies in a kitchen while naked and barefoot and preparing meals while suckling two extra babies at their breasts, and, since they’re doing things like going out and having careers and leaving these Superior Young White Males to post nazi anime girls and Pepe green frogs and keks and shadilays and whatnot, they’re all angry and want to do a race war?

Or did the Miggytoe who made that meme forget about that? There’s a large overlap between miggytoes and white supremacists, you know.

JS
JS
3 years ago

Humans are only about 4% uniquely human, reasonably current research shows 96% of the DNA is almost identical to Chimpanzee. So, by accident, the MRA is almost correct.

Welcome to modern genetics!

Myriad
Myriad
3 years ago

So much for memes being pithy and funny. They can’t even do that right.

Haise, the husky puppy
Haise, the husky puppy
3 years ago

I remember actually seeing something identical to this a long, long ago???? But it featured naked women and the stance that women aren’t human, but barn animals that should be treated as such. It freaked me out then since it was one of the first times reading something that made me realize some people really hated women.

Surprised to see their reactions be this and not a loud applause in the comments? Or maybe there will be edgy replies agreeing coming soon while calling those who denounce it as cucks, who knows. /shrug

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
3 years ago

You say that it’s the male’s songs we sing
Yet here I am a-writin’
And if I had a singer to take under my wing
I’d gear my words for fightin’

That bit aside (don’t treat me snide, I’d like to hear my song)
Is that your notions about culture are more than slightly wrong
Women have contributed to most things, the difference is thus:
You dismiss their accomplishments because “well, they ain’t us”

Happened in the past and then the cycle, it repeats
With those accomplished undocumented and the current achievers named cheats
The charlatans of history, they’re usually male
Now to the island of seagull meat you really should set sail

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

Shouldn’t this meme maker be planning his path to going his own way instead of making a meme announcing his abject ignorance?

numerobis
numerobis
3 years ago

Pah. Everyone knows women are really fish.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

@Numerobis

I’m a shark.

A black one.

Bina
3 years ago

@Myriad:

So much for memes being pithy and funny. They can’t even do that right.

Maybe they need a woman to help them condense it?

Unfortunately, it would all squish down to “We think we did everything and we don’t know anything, but we still want to take credit for everything those other humans (women, yuccch) did. Bring me a beer, and make me a sammitch, you 3% human. Hurr hurr durr durr hurr…”

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

Oh, for heaven’s sake. Yes, women sing. But what about the menz?

Smokey Robinson
Perry Como
Luciano Pavarotti
Enrico Caruso
John, Paul, George and Ringo (the Beatles)

The list could go on and on.

Just because you can’t sing, little MGTOW (aka Steve-2112) doesn’t mean that other men can’t. Don’t sell the menz short!

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

What have women contributed to human achievement?

I’m reminded of a saying popular among feminists in the 1970s:

Anonymous was a woman

Judas Peckerwood
Judas Peckerwood
3 years ago

If they’ve actually gone their own way why can I still smell them?

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
3 years ago

@Kat

What have women contributed to human achievement?

I’m reminded of a saying popular among feminists in the 1970s:

Anonymous was a woman

Oooh, going to have to use that one myself.

PaganReader - Misandrist Spinster

Pah. Everyone knows women are really fish.

Excuse you, I am a purrmaid.
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Bina
3 years ago

A woman built Trump Tower, as I recall. Also, the world recently lost a great architect who was also a Muslim woman: Zaha Hadid. Her buildings can be found all over the world. In major cities, natch.

Also, what were the Hidden Figures of NASA — chopped liver? Oh, I guess they were only there to sing.

And what about Margaret Hamilton, whose computer coding got the astronauts safely to the Moon and back? I guess she was just there to make coffee or something.

Yeah, dude, you got us. We didn’t do nothing.

numerobis
numerobis
3 years ago

Francesca: science would like to know more about this.

According to the current phylogeny, sharks are believed to have split off over 400 million years ago.

Women are flesh-finned bonefish. Not cartilaginous fish.

Myriad
Myriad
3 years ago

@Bina

Yeah, that’s probably it. Although, most of the women involved with this lot are not exactly succinct either.

lkeke35
lkeke35
3 years ago

Yes, us women of color have always enjoyed being pampered and privileged, and just not having to contribute anything to this society like…oh, I don’t know…free labor, children, blood, sweat. Ya’ know, all that utterly worthless shite.

There’s so much I wanna say about how half of humanity kept the other half from doing anything notable, while holding them in bondage, erasing any accomplishments they may have made despite their lack of freedom, and then these physically, and mentally lazy f*ckers come along, and vilify all women for not doing anything.

I guess it would be discourteous of me to point out there are women right now contributing more to society then they ever have.

There’s so much I wanna say, but I’m not gonna say it!

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

Humans are animals, so this kind of enters “not even wrong” territory.

Sister Bat'leth of Rational Discussion
Sister Bat'leth of Rational Discussion
3 years ago

How do these characters get out of bed in the morning? What level of delusion is necessary before they become completely non-functional? (And I don’t mean that in the Data sense, either.)

LindsayIrene, Rioting Werebonobo

Well, MGTOWs don’t contribute anything worthwhile to society, so I guess they’re not human?

Falconer
Falconer
3 years ago

I fucked up at work today, so it helps somewhat to know there are people who are less capable of thinking than I.

I’m trying not to worry about it, but that’s not working too well.

Otrame
Otrame
3 years ago

But the point is that men are lobe-finned fishes as well (and tetrapods and mammals and primates and apes and hominids and so forth).

Yes, children, even MGTOWs are human. They are not, I am afraid, very good at it.

The idea that women “haven’t done anything” is so fucking stupid. Women were usually not ALLOWED to do anything, at least nothing in front of anybody, so, you know, men could take all the credit.

I think about Harriet Tubman, probably my biggest hero, who got hundreds of people free, returning again and again to a place where there was a 10k reward for her, dead or alive. And then acted as a nurse during the war, when she wasn’t busy being a spy in enemy territory. Oh, and she led troops in a raid that free several hundred slaves.

All with a fucking dent in her head were a supervisor hit her with a scale weight because she was getting in the way when her boyfriend was trying to escape. When she was 15 years old. She was in a coma for 5 months, just aware enough to swallow. Her family managed to keep her alive while working their asses off every day.

The brain damage from the incident when she was 15 was not minor. She had visions, and hallucinations. She had what was probably a form of epilepsy, in which she would lose consciousness without warning and stay that way sometimes for hours.

She was a fucking amazing human being.

Flora
Flora
3 years ago

To further the “not even wrong,” culture is not a defining feature of humanity, or even primates. Orcas, dolphins and whales have culture. Elephants have culture. Sparrows have culture. Rats have culture.

Also, personhood, I.e. Voting rights, is a basic human right, as is the right to equally paid employment without discrimination. So that “critique” is utterly incoherent. “You can’t take away their human rights! I mean sure you should take away this specific human right or this specific human right, but what kind of monster suggests we take away their rights?”

epitome of incomprehensibility

I like the emphasis the MG(H)OW puts on women’s main contributions to humanity: singing, cleaning, and giving birth. Those specific things. No others. Not painting, not pottery, not cooking, not theoretical geometry, not patting one’s head while rubbing one’s belly…

I don’t know. It amused me. I’m easily amused.

And as for laughing with and not at, @Victorious Parasol and @Judas Peckerwood said things I found very funny:

I suppose it’s good that the MGTOWs are getting more exercise, jumping to conclusions.

If they’ve actually gone their own way why can I still smell them?

@Falconer – solidarity, deepest symphonies. I know how things like that feel, especially when aggravated by supervisors who make a big deal out of mistakes. 🙁

Megalibrarygirl
Megalibrarygirl
3 years ago

I hate this manospherian trope. Women have *significantly* contributed to society despite sexism.

Women invented juvenile Justice & juvenile courts. Women created kindergartens & were on the forefront against child labor. Women designed the life rafts used on the Titanic. Women led environmental movements. Women planned the initial Montgomery bus boycott. Women are constantly doing shit men take credit for. All​. The. Time. Fuck these assholes who can’t be bothered to even read Wikipedia, which has articles on all of these topics. FFS. 🙄

Carrie
Carrie
3 years ago

Off topic, but here’s a very definite NON-MGTOW:
https://mic.com/articles/178662/the-mayor-of-austin-had-the-best-response-to-this-mans-sexist-letter#.BD2t9oPkm

The city of Austin, Texas, has become the target of a swarm of angry men upset by the prospect of women-only screenings of Wonder Woman at the Austin-based theater chain Alamo Drafthouse. One of those angry men reached out to Austin Mayor Steve Adler with his complaints — and Adler had the best response.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Deprive them of the right to vote maybe, and maybe to work some jobs, in other words, strip some circumstantial privileges, but to strip them of human rights? Like what, exactly?

Flora beat me to it, but how the fuck is voting not a human right? I also wonder what jobs he thinks we should forbidden to do. Betcha anything it’s some of those dangerous jobs they like to complain about men usually doing.

Tosca, Chaos made Flesh
Tosca, Chaos made Flesh
3 years ago

(Women’s) main contribution to society is giving birth.

Think about that, for a moment, Mr. MGTOW. I know it’s an area you have difficulty with, but really think.

Nequam
Nequam
3 years ago

@Haise: maybe they were a Piers Anthony fan?

Lea
Lea
3 years ago

We invented weaving and possibly medicine, language and writing.

The speculation being that if women were indeed the majority gathers who learned to save seeds and plant crops, then we also most likely invented the ways to say, “Don’t eat the one with leaves that are shaped and colored like this, you’ll die. The one that looks and smells like so, however, will cure a bellyache, staunch bleeding or get ya high”.

Hunting does not require as precise wording and while it is certain that everyone hunted and gathered, it is commonly believed men did more hunting and women more gathering.
So where do men get the idea that they created civilization?

Women passed on the culture, knowledge and history to their children, painting on cave walls and telling stories around the fire. Isn’t that the beginning of religion, art and language?

Why wouldn’t they then also be the ones to create a way to pass on detailed information to the next generation once they were gone, in written word? Could they not have begun by entertaining children by drawing symbols and pictures in the ash?

If we are to believe that women have traditionally been the cooks and keepers of the hearth, then why wouldn’t women have invented fire and the means of preserving it and using it to make inedible food edible?

Since women lactate, why not assume it was women who first thought to use animal milk to sustain humans and keep it over the winter by making cheese and butter? We know women invented beer. It isn’t much of a leap from there. After all, it’s milkmaids, not milk men.

Medicine, breeding heartier plants, watching the skies to know when to plant and when babies were due, preserving food, isn’t that the beginning of science?

Then who would have needed to create a way to estimate how much grain would feed a tribe, how much reed was needed to weave a basket, how many cycles of the moon until a birth? That’s math.

This is speculative, but no more so and some would say considerably less so, than supposing men created all those things on their own and managed to hunt the mammoth.

I’ve read that meat made up only about a quarter of early human’s diets. So if men only provided meat and women provided everything else, it was women who fed and clothed men around the fires they built and not the other way around.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
3 years ago

Their main contribution to culture remains singing.

Women invented computers as we know them, wi-fi, sci-fi and fandom. That might as well be the whole bloody definition of geek culture if nothing else (well, that and Nazism, but Nazism is all men’s).

Oh, and art. The very concept of art. Invented by women.

Emma Goldman
Emma Goldman
3 years ago

@Megalibrarygirl

“Women invented juvenile Justice & juvenile courts. Women created kindergartens & were on the forefront against child labor.”

Which means you were partially responsible, if not mostly responsible, for the general decline in gumption and discipline in today’s children? Kindergarten is make-work bullshit that drains taxes for glorified baby-sitters who can’t be bothered to find real jobs.

“Women designed the life rafts used on the Titanic. Women led environmental movements. Women planned the initial Montgomery bus boycott.”

Women probably designed them for their own benefit, given the maritime laws regarding “women and children first.” Environmental movements are bullshit shills who do the legwork for public-sector business-stranglers who want to create work for useless eaters and histrionic busybodies while expropriating the products of the job creators (justified via the Marxist bugbear of “externalities”). I don’t care about your boycotts.

“Women are constantly doing shit men take credit for. All​. The. Time. Fuck these assholes who can’t be bothered to even read Wikipedia, which has articles on all of these topics. FFS. 🙄”

Wikipedia is biased; despite the fact that their founder is an Objectivist, I have found that it is very difficult to impart truths regarding climate change and Austrian economics on its pages, without them getting reverted for not conforming to Wikipedians’ agendas. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the articles they’ve written about women have been tainted by academic nut-cutting she-devil panty-staining Zapatistas either.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
3 years ago

@epitome of incomprehensibility

I like the emphasis the MG(H)OW puts on women’s main contributions to humanity: singing, cleaning, and giving birth. Those specific things. No others. Not painting, not pottery, not cooking, not theoretical geometry, not patting one’s head while rubbing one’s belly…

I don’t know. It amused me. I’m easily amused.

Exactly where I ended up! I went from “this is a meme?” to “refute, rebut, reject” to “ohmygod how wilfully stupid can you be?” to “singing, cleaning, and giving birth” ???
What a hilariously arbitrary selection. Also, I am sad that my contributions to civilisation are even less than I thought. I love singing but I’m terrible at it. I don’t mind cleaning but it’s not really in my top ten of important things to do.

I have indeed given birth, to a male person, no less, but I did not perform this duty with suitable gravitas, in hindsight. I wasn’t all “look ye, here I am contributing to civilisation in one of only three ways that I can!”

MrsObedMarsh
MrsObedMarsh
3 years ago

Wikipedia is biased

academic nut-cutting she-devil panty-staining Zapatistas

Hmm. Hmmmmmmm.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Women probably designed them for their own benefit, given the maritime laws regarding “women and children first.”

Which laws now? Cause last I checked, that had been debunked.

Which means you were partially responsible, if not mostly responsible, for the general decline in gumption and discipline in today’s children? Kindergarten is make-work bullshit that drains taxes for glorified baby-sitters who can’t be bothered to find real jobs.

Yeah, what use is learning how to read? And even if kindergarten was just baby sitting, why isn’t child care a real job?

Since you said “you” in reference to the female gender, I’m guessing you’re not a woman. I don’t know why you bothered taking a female name if you’re not going to put any effort into socking as a woman, but oh well.

And yes, I know who Emma Goldman was. No need to ‘splain.

dreemr
dreemr
3 years ago

Kindergarten is make-work bullshit that drains taxes for glorified baby-sitters who can’t be bothered to find real jobs.

Sounds legit.
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weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

My eyes glazed over and I missed

academic nut-cutting she-devil panty-staining Zapatistas

At first.

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Sorry for using the same gif twice in a day but it seems fitting somehow.

Emma Goldman
Emma Goldman
3 years ago

@wwth

Flora beat me to it, but how the fuck is voting not a human right? I also wonder what jobs he thinks we should forbidden to do. Betcha anything it’s some of those dangerous jobs they like to complain about men usually doing.

Generally, we don’t allow children and the severely mentally-challenged to vote, either; would you be in favor of extending those rights to them? It is my contention that women are only slightly more mentally adroit than the former, and it in no way serves the general interests of society to let them pervert the democratic process through their emotionally-laden voting habits. As Aristotle rightly noted, they are more fond of tyrants than men generally are; this is why socialism and restrictive “social-safety nets” with their endlessly-shrinking boundaries and punitive redistributive properties are so frequently advocated for amongst their sex.

Women have no place in physically-taxing jobs; it decreases their birthing potential, and due to the fact that they often lack the physical capabilities necessary to performing these tasks, leveling is always necessary, usually by lowering the bar for their sex. So much for women being equal, right? Liberty and equality are, in fact, quite opposed to one another, and I fight chiefly for maximizing my possession of the former.

Falconer
Falconer
3 years ago

Kindergarten is make-work bullshit that drains taxes for glorified baby-sitters who can’t be bothered to find real jobs.

I’m emailing David. I have a surprisingly low tolerance for trolls who diss teachers, who work harder than they ever will on less money.

MrsObedMarsh
MrsObedMarsh
3 years ago

it decreases their birthing potential

Nooo! Not my birthing potential!

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
3 years ago

@Falconer

It’s just Seagull Boy again, email away.

Emma Goldman
Emma Goldman
3 years ago

@wwth

I posted under this name on another comments section on this site. My plan was to sneak in under the pretexts of being a normal leftist, and then take advantage of the leverage bestowed upon me by the mods when they inevitably let me through. It has worked.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

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Women have no place in physically-taxing jobs

http://s1.r29static.com//bin/entry/d20/x/1471050/image.gif

Notice how MGTOW posts always attract the most trolls? It’s almost like they have trouble with the going part. Who’ve thunk it?

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
3 years ago

@Emma Goldman

I’m honestly not sure what you think you’re doing here
It’s something
Yeah, it’s something
But if there’s something we hold quite dear
It’s our grasp on what is right

Ramblin’ tangents hither and yon
Ageism, ableism, the list goes on
Backed by misogyny, of fucking course
And get off your unhealthily long-legged horse

We’ve got no time to stop and chat
You’re an asshole, and that is that

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