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Overcome lust by imagining women as chopped-up body parts, MGTOW of the Day recommends

This technique does not work for everyone

One of the little stumbling blocks faced by would-be Men Going Their Own Way is that it’s hard for straight dudes to free themselves from the influence of evil women if all they do is think about how much they want to have sex with said evil women.

And so you’ll occasionally find MGTOWs asking one another what they can do to lessen their terrible lusts. And the answers are often quite horrifying — longtime WHTM readers may recall legendary MGTOW Christopher of Oregon’s lengthy disquisitions on the (alleged) unspeakable smelly horrors of the vagina, for example.

Well, he’s not the only one trying to replace sexy thoughts with grotesque ones. Consider this lust-destroying advice from today’s MGTOW of the Day, fresh from a discussion in the MGTOW subreddit.

bitter_samsara 7 points 7 hours ago This isn't for everyone, but one technique is to visualize each body part and fluid separately for what it is. For example, a butt which can look beautiful but imagine the bones, sinew, meat, blood. There is poop that inside, which smells really bad. These things are just organized in such a way that the form appears to be pleasing, but in reality it's disgusting. Visualize those separate things being combined to make a butt, but see those for what they are. If you're not faint of heart, you can see the reality of how disgusting the human body is through autopsies, but really this isn't necessary unless you've decided this is a good technique for you.

This is actually a variation of an ancient Buddhist technique — no, really — but when combined with the intense misogyny of the MGTOWs it’s decidedly less than enlightened.

Straight women, naturally, have it much easier when it comes to the whole lust quenching thing: All they have to do to kill any lust they feel towards a particular man is to imagine that he’s a MGTOW. Works every time!

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Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ sinkable john

having sex is a good way to wear off the rest of the alcohol sickness.

Er, I’ll have to take your word for that. I’m usually “There’s a bucket, there’s a bottle of Lucozade, there’s a bottle of mouthwash. Give me a shout when the bucket’s full and the bottles are empty.”

@ dreemr

I first saw him in that thing with Laura Dern and I thought he was brilliant. Having said that, I quite like all the cheesy ‘paying off that tax bill’ stuff he does now.

Reminds me of Michael Caine (who reads the fee before the script). Someone said Jaws 4 wasn’t a very good film. He said “No, but it bought a very nice house”.

sunnysombrera
7 years ago

(Johnny Depp is another actor that was widely praised in his earlier years who has since fallen into “hack” territory).

What’s Eating Gilbert Grape? looks like a great film. I’ve only seen clips so far but the acting quality from Depp and especially DiCaprio is impressive. Hell, Leonardo should have gotten his Oscar twenty five years ago just for the role of Arnie.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Very late to the party, but I wanted to reiterate the others who have commented that “release excitement” is a charming way of saying it.

In fact, awww, charming is the exact word that popped into my head…what a wonderful turn of phrase!

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
7 years ago

@Alan

They still need you by their side in case they throw up again though.

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
7 years ago

@WWTH: Always! *starts humming soundtrack*

dreemr
dreemr
7 years ago

@sunnysombrero – definitely check out What’s Eating Gilbert Grape? It’s very good, and DiCaprio really is incredible in it. At the time, Depp’s blonde-streaked hair annoyed me (!) but he is very good and I have always really enjoyed Juliette Lewis in whatever she chooses to do.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ sinkable john

They still need you by their side in case they throw up again though.

Heh yeah, with one particular gf it’s like “What’s your favourite position in bed?”

“Recovery”

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Leonardo Dicaprio is a good actor, but I can’t stand him. He just seems so extra sleazy. I actually surprised that MGTOW and MRAs don’t fixate on him as the only alpha male that can get sex instead of Brad Pitt. Brad is better looking, I think but he’s a serial monogamist. He’s not really known as a huge womanizer. Leo, on the other hand dates a succession of twenty something blonde models even though he’s in his 40s. He’s the one living the manosphere dream but he never seems to be a target of envy and hate for them for some reason.

I’ve just always found that strange.

Valentine
Valentine
7 years ago

Re. Excitement ?
What is happening here?))) I sleeping and when i awaken i am press Secretary for WHTM? Iam honoured! But really i just translate how i say normally on russian ‘я возбужденный’)

Kimstu
Kimstu
7 years ago

@A Rose for Emily:

I was going to point out that it’s almost verbatim a Buddhist technique. Which makes slightly more sense when you consider that monks are not only called to celibacy, but that a primary objective of Buddhism is to eliminate “craving” of every kind.

Yup, and the same sort of argument has a very long history in Christian theology as well. Here’s the 4th-century St. John Chrysostom’s letter to Theodore (www.newadvent.org/fathers/1903.htm) on how to get over his crush on a woman called Hermione:

I know that you are now admiring the grace of Hermione, and you judge that there is nothing in the world to be compared to her comeliness; but if you choose, O friend, you shall yourself exceed her in comeliness and gracefulness, as much as golden statues surpass those which are made of clay. For if beauty, when it occurs in the body, so fascinates and excites the minds of most men, when the soul is refulgent with it what can match beauty and grace of this kind? For the groundwork of this corporeal beauty is nothing else but phlegm, and blood, and humor, and bile, and the fluid of masticated food. For by these things both eyes and cheeks, and all the other features, are supplied with moisture; and if they do not receive that moisture, daily skin becoming unduly withered, and the eyes sunken, the whole grace of the countenance immediately vanishes; so that if you consider what is stored up inside those beautiful eyes, and that straight nose, and the mouth and the cheeks, you will affirm the well-shaped body to be nothing else than a whited sepulchre; the parts within are full of so much uncleanness.

MGTOWs often act so proud of their “creativity” or “originality” in coming up with various justifications for misogyny which in reality are deeply embedded in the historical mainstream of patriarchal culture.

Overly Long Name
Overly Long Name
7 years ago

I need to catch up on the comments but i figured i’d say “how to raise a feminist son” is trending on twitter because of a New York Times comic with that name, and the twitter feed is exactly what you would expect.

Aulma Frendzar Dèdd
Aulma Frendzar Dèdd
7 years ago

@weatherwax

*Hilarious misunderstanding regarding the Archers which refuses to copy/paste for me*

Some years ago, there was a shower sex scene which scandalised much of the listenership. Surely that’s roughly analogous to sex in an MRI. If memory serves, it was Sid and Jolene (which shows how long ago it was).

Lol, they should do that again just to spice things up. Radio shows can get boring sometimes.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
7 years ago

@JS

Fair enough! I know when I am fairly beaten. D

@Diptych

Thank you. Admittedly, since you appear to be familiar with the erotic cross-section thing, I suppose my interest isn’t as niche as I feared.

It seems to show up in fiction, as well. I recall reading an erotic novel in which the author vividly described the fine muscle contractions within her character’s vagina during penetration, which, I suppose, is as close as you’ll get to a text-version of the same.

@Prophet

Quite so! Just another day at the Mammoth, as it were.

@Kat

Thank you!

[guiltily climbs out of the can]

@Fishy Goat

Some of us pagan/ wiccan folk (current and former) have certainly made cracks about such things in moments of despair.

Well – and this is the thing I find so refreshing about the Norse Asatruar path – our equivalent to burning people in wicker men and slitting their throats in groves is to merely assemble your army and fleet and face down your opponents in glorious battle under the eyes of the Aesir and Vanir.

I say refreshing, because Asatru doesn’t fuck around. We don’t spend time pretending our Gods and Goddesses are nice and loving 24/7. Even our sex Goddess, Freya, is a war goddess in her own right.

That’s not to say we aren’t peaceful. We prefer peace, and the Eddas clearly state that peace is preferable to war; however, we won’t hesitate to put up a fight.

In a nutshell, our religion dictates that Odin commanded us to be born on Earth to lead the battle against harmful forces. Earth is merely one of the many cosmic battlefields and we are part of his army.

I’m strictly going by what the Icelandic branches of Asatru (called Forn Sed) dictate. Fittingly enough, we Asatruar don’t get along with all of our kin: we have been infiltrated by American and continental European cis-het white supremacists who call themelves Odinists, and this is weird because interracial God/Jotun sex and what could be called instances of transgender life are quite explicitly alluded to in what passes as the holy books for our belief, the Prose and Poetic Eddas.

So we make war on each other as well. I envy Wiccans; they’re all so nice, whereas we warlike, battle-ready Asatruar make war on each other and form tiny factions and argue and squabble. I suppose that’s why we aren’t very popular – well, that and the white supremacists contaminating our ranks.

I suppose this pleases Odin and he thinks that we should sharpen up our combat skills on each other, just as how his personal warriors, the Einherjari, fight every day to the dead on the fields outside of Valhalla.

If you guys want to read more about this from an actual Icelandic Forn Sed priestess who is a blonde, white woman (I only say this because her attributes give her authority over the white supremacist Asatruar) that I have personally spoken to, go here:

odsmal.org

Anyway, so, yes.

Since you Wiccans jest about wicker men, I suppose my equivalent would be that I shall have to send word to Lady Bina and Sir Alan. Lady Bina will deploy my Imperial Fleet from its port in Iceland to surround the United States, so that nothing can leave the country.

Sir Alan shall lead a detachment of soldiers to D.C. and challenge Trump to single combat to decide the fate of the United States. This is called a Holmgang; it was the acceptable manner of settling disputes in medieval Scandinavia.

I have no doubt in my mind that Sir Alan shall deliver to me the ‘United States’, as these Americans call it, to me within the hour.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ fran

challenge Trump to single combat to decide the fate of the United States.

Well, I do like a scrap. I’ll practice my blood eagle skills.

The Wicker Man idea would help me solve a problem. Some friends want to set up a pagan law firm. But that might fall foul of our Equalty Act. However if we can say it’s a ‘genuine occupational requirement’ then we’re ok. So introducing the odd bit of human sacrifice might cover that. And ‘alternative dispute resolution’ is very much encouraged these days.

LindsayIrene, Rioting Werebonobo

@ WWTH

No to mention that DiCaprio was the leader of a group called the Pussy Posse.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

As Leonardo DiCaprio is the poster boy for Birkenhead Drill, surely the MRAs think he’s a ‘cuck’?

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
7 years ago

@Alan

Well said. I expected nothing less from the expert tactician who commands my Northern Army.

When historians write about your heroic deeds this day, they will describe you in the same glowing language that they describe William the Conqueror’s landfall.

I will embroider a large tapestry depicting your campaign against the Red Hats and the Lord of the Red Hat Host, Domnhall Drumpf, and we shall hang it below the Bayeux Tapestry.

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
7 years ago

As much fun as it is to visualize the sheer ghastliness of this, um, fellow’s suggestion, I think it’s worth pointing out that it relies entirely on the magnetic butt assumption inherent in Manosphere thinking going all the way back to Warren Farrell’s Myth Of Male Power. Those poor dopey men are just slaves to women’s hinders and only the power of remembering that poop sometimes emerges from it can break that devilish hold.

Hmmm, anybody suggested that to Farrell himself? Might make for a better cover for the next edition of his book: women’s butts on toilets. Break its hold on you, men, break its hold!

dreemr
dreemr
7 years ago

@Overly Long Name – well, that was stomach-churning, possibly due to the constant eye-rolling I had to do.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ fran

I expected nothing less from the expert tactician who commands my Northern Army.

“Amateurs think tactics; professionals think logistics

But thank you for the honour; I’ll try to do you justice.

Speaking of accounts of 1066, it’s now been established that a chronicle that was thought to date to some decades after the battle is actually pretty much contemporary. It’s fascinating reading with that in mind. There was a great three part documentary/drama about it recently. I’ll try to see if it’s available on line anywhere. You might enjoy it.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
7 years ago

@Gussie

Those poor dopey men are just slaves to women’s hinders

So, erm…er…you’re saying that they like big butts and they cannot lie?

Sorry, I’ll see myself out. :X

@Alan

I would be more than happy to view it, thank you. You’ve done a splendid job recommending me things to watch thus far.

Aulma Frendzar Dèdd
Aulma Frendzar Dèdd
7 years ago

@WWTH

Leonardo Dicaprio is a good actor, but I can’t stand him. He just seems so extra sleazy. I actually surprised that MGTOW and MRAs don’t fixate on him as the only alpha male that can get sex instead of Brad Pitt.

Ohh I was going to say that. He’s an amazing actor but I am disappointed by the way he leads his private life. As an actor he presents himself as a classy and elegant gentleman but he’s so trashy in real life.

Brad is better looking, I think but he’s a serial monogamist. He’s not really known as a huge womanizer.

True, Brad is actually pretty chill. He only dated 2 women in the past 17 years, that’s a really low number for a Top class actor and celebrity.

Leo, on the other hand dates a succession of twenty something blonde models even though he’s in his 40s. He’s the one living the manosphere dream but he never seems to be a target of envy and hate for them for some reason.

And he’s gonna keep doing it until his looks are going to allow him to. Just like George Clooney. He womanized until he reached his fifties and young girls stopped swarming around him. Then he settled down.
I’m surprised the manosphere never addressed him too, no one in Hollywood gets as many women as him.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ fran

Hope you can find a way of watching this. It was an excellent series. And covers all the stuff people forget about, like the battle of Stamford Bridge.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08h7zsb

Aulma Frendzar Dèdd
Aulma Frendzar Dèdd
7 years ago

@Alan

As Leonardo DiCaprio is the poster boy for Birkenhead Drill, surely the MRAs think he’s a ‘cuck’?

Ahahah must be! They do think he’s a cuck because he supported Obama and also defends climate change.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
7 years ago

@Alan

After some cursory googling I did actually find a source. Thank you very much! The tale of William’s Normandy Landing (chuckle) is among one of my favorites in the annals of English history.

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