One of the little stumbling blocks faced by would-be Men Going Their Own Way is that it’s hard for straight dudes to free themselves from the influence of evil women if all they do is think about how much they want to have sex with said evil women.
And so you’ll occasionally find MGTOWs asking one another what they can do to lessen their terrible lusts. And the answers are often quite horrifying — longtime WHTM readers may recall legendary MGTOW Christopher of Oregon’s lengthy disquisitions on the (alleged) unspeakable smelly horrors of the vagina, for example.
Well, he’s not the only one trying to replace sexy thoughts with grotesque ones. Consider this lust-destroying advice from today’s MGTOW of the Day, fresh from a discussion in the MGTOW subreddit.
This is actually a variation of an ancient Buddhist technique — no, really — but when combined with the intense misogyny of the MGTOWs it’s decidedly less than enlightened.
Straight women, naturally, have it much easier when it comes to the whole lust quenching thing: All they have to do to kill any lust they feel towards a particular man is to imagine that he’s a MGTOW. Works every time!
^ Sorry @Mels. I’m a sympathiser/nightstand Buddhist myself. As a religious studies major and feministI tend to approach it critically even though it’s something near and dear to me.
@ aulma
I initially read that as The Archers and thought “Wow, Ambridge is certainly hotting up a bit.”.
The Sikh religion actually speaks nice of women. They are celebrated as mothers, sisters, lovers and friends, and are encouraged to participate to religious functions. They are free and don’t have to take their husband’s name. Not bad.
@Alan ahahahah can’t imagine that.
@Aulma
@Alan
*Hilarious misunderstanding regarding the Archers which refuses to copy/paste for me*
Some years ago, there was a shower sex scene which scandalised much of the listenership. Surely that’s roughly analogous to sex in an MRI. If memory serves, it was Sid and Jolene (which shows how long ago it was).
Reminds me of a pamphlet some Hare Krishnas gave me once about lust. It featured a guy lusting after some girl, so she ingested something that induced constant vomiting and diarrhea, which somehow made her become ugly. Then invited the guy over and showed him all the vomit and diarrhea and told him that was all her beauty was, which I guess cured him of lust.
I’m not sure how much this really works, though. I’ve seen human bodies cut open (they were being dissected by medical students, I’m not a serial killer) and it didn’t make me less attracted to attractive people… I mean, I know they have internal organs and go to the bathroom, I just don’t really care.
Young Me used to live in a religious fundamentalist household and has heard something eerily similar in the past.
After being caught in a certain act of indiscretion that can best be euphemized as “self-love,” I was given a stern talking to by the family patriarch that more or less suggested that I should overcome temptation by picturing the gross things that are under a woman’s skin (i.e. organs, bones, blood vessels, etc). He claimed that this is what he did whenever talking to attractive women.
It’s one of those things that gives you pause, and then festers in the back of your brain for the rest of your life.
Commenting only because “release excitement” is oddly charming to me ?
@dreemr
I know, right? Personally, I feel that Valentine should replace Sean Spicer as the press secretary. It would be epic and scandalous. 🙂
@dashapants – Ha! I agree, but I like Valentine far too much to wish that task upon him.
As long as it’s being modeled around the original movie, not the Nicholas Cage remake, I guess it’s ok.
@wwth re: wicker men
…There is a joke I could make here.
There is no Nicholas Cage remake. The only Wicker Man movie stars Edward Woodward and Christopher Lee.
The Wicker Man ‘counterfeit’ is worth getting just for the commentary track. It’s basically a 90 minute apology.
Edited to keep Vicky P happy, and can’t help but agree.
Oh, much as I love Valentine, I can’t do without the Snekretary. I’m going to be so sad when he’s inevitably thrown under the bus.
Snekretary web cartoons. Safe for work.
This is confusing. The link says the buddhist method to be free from lust and love is to picture the person pooping.
But I also heard once that the best way to tell whether you’re in love with someone is if you still feel like having sex with them after picturing them pooping.
As for my own experience, TMI : I have accompanied (and been accompanied by) a few of my partners through violent bursts of sickness that have included symptoms like diarrhea. So that would involve actually seeing ’em poop, often at the same time they’re vomitting something that looks like it’s eating through the floor (and your shoes).
That never seemed to affect their sex drive or mine, even when no love was involved. It’s almost like biological functions being messy is just another fact of life that most reasonable people acknowledge as it is.
I wonder what it says about MGTOWs that they can’t deal with that fact.
Thanks, Alan.
Going back to the original topic, it seems to me that MGTOWs at times resent being organic creatures. They lust over fembots. They sometimes voice disgust about biological urges.
Frankly, if we could offer them a Matrix-style environment where they never had to sweat or poop, I bet they’d go for it.
@WWTH
But burning them in a giant wicker effigy of nicholas cage reminds them how inferior they are to such a celebrated actor with a wide variety of performances from “Eye bulging murderer” all the way to “obsessed conspiracy theorist” and “freaked out vigilante”. As long as it involves bulging his eyes until they’re bigger than his head, Nicholas Cage is the master of it.
/sarcasm
RE: sex and MRIs and seeing through people’s bodies.
This reminds me of those deep sea fish with translucent skin. You can see their organs. It’d literally be like having sex with one of those.
@dreemr, iseult
OK, well, Valentine can be WHTM press secretary. But (much like Spicer) we are not going to brief him on anything before we send him before the press, just unleash him on the public to hold forth as he sees fit. It would be best that way.
@ sinkable john
Isn’t holding your amour’s hair out of the way whilst they throw up into a skip a standard part of a relationship?
He’d have made a great 4th century monk, or a late-period Surrealist painter. Both liked to consider women as just disgusting body parts, with no minds.
RE: Biology
Not gonna lie, my personal biology annoys me. If I wouldn’t have to deal with it again, I can’t guarantee I wouldn’t make that choice. But that’s my personal biology. It just happens, and there’s no particular point to being a dick to others about it.
Wicker man practices aside (real or not,) bog bodies indicate some pretty ghastly ritual activities. Who’d be a prehistoric king, eh ?
@Alan
I guess that would depend on how often (and what, and how much) the people involved drink, but yeah, it is pretty standard.
Interesting fact : having sex is a good way to wear off the rest of the alcohol sickness. That would be most efficient right after the vomitting and the witnessing of it.
@Sandra
Oh I’d definitely get rid of a bunch of biological mechanisms if I could. Probably gonna start with the shit happening with my brain first though, but I wouldn’t mind being free from some of the stuff going on further below. Though there’s one hell of a difference between being annoyed by it, and going all “I AM NOW FREE FROM WOMAN’S EVIL POWER OVER MEEEEEE, FOR MY MANBRAIN ALLOWS ME TO… gross myself out for all eternity, apparently ?” – though it is indeed a good thing that MGTOWs apparently can and will do that, ’cause they might actually Go Their Own Way then.
@dashapants – I could sign on to that. And you know, even though I don’t like Spicer all that much, he’s one of the very few in this administration that I do find myself pitying at times. I am continuously amazed that he keeps going out and performing that exercise in abject humiliation over and over.
Re: Nicholas Cage – most of the Mammotheers are too young to know this first-hand, but he was actually considered one of the best actors of his generation back in the day. He did very good work in the 80s and 90s and was highly praised for his range, sensitivity, and eclectic choices. (Johnny Depp is another actor that was widely praised in his earlier years who has since fallen into “hack” territory).
It was when he began to have terrible financial problems (the man is apparently not a great money manager) that he started taking any job that came along and giving some stereotypical performances that have since become such a punchline.
But he’s done some very fine work, too, and continues to do so once in a while. A few I remember him being outstanding in are: “Raising Arizona” of course; “Red Rock West”; “Leaving Las Vegas”.