One of the little stumbling blocks faced by would-be Men Going Their Own Way is that it’s hard for straight dudes to free themselves from the influence of evil women if all they do is think about how much they want to have sex with said evil women.
And so you’ll occasionally find MGTOWs asking one another what they can do to lessen their terrible lusts. And the answers are often quite horrifying — longtime WHTM readers may recall legendary MGTOW Christopher of Oregon’s lengthy disquisitions on the (alleged) unspeakable smelly horrors of the vagina, for example.
Well, he’s not the only one trying to replace sexy thoughts with grotesque ones. Consider this lust-destroying advice from today’s MGTOW of the Day, fresh from a discussion in the MGTOW subreddit.
This is actually a variation of an ancient Buddhist technique — no, really — but when combined with the intense misogyny of the MGTOWs it’s decidedly less than enlightened.
Straight women, naturally, have it much easier when it comes to the whole lust quenching thing: All they have to do to kill any lust they feel towards a particular man is to imagine that he’s a MGTOW. Works every time!
Well this is the firt time I’m worried that my child’s father is a misogynist and a Buddhist ?
@Oogly-senpai
@AsAboveSoBelow
To be honest, I’ve seen so many hentai with x-ray views of people’s organs writhing in sexual ecstasy that I have sometimes fantasized about what it would look like if I could see through my own body and that of my partner while we’re doing it.
ETA:
Oh my Goddess why is this the first post on this page, fuck my entire life.
[buries self in a trashcan]
@Kat I really should pay more attention when reading…
“far, far above the female rabbis” *whoops*
and then I thought “maybe rabbits?” Which actually eat their own poop in small quantities. It’s been a long day of annoying trolls, sorry for misreading.
ETA: Because you didn’t let me post first, Francesca.
@Francesca: Well hey now, we’re all sensible people here, we’ve all enjoyed an erotic cross-section or two in our time.
Best poop comment ever.
Sorry if this counts as spam but I don’t know where else to make such a post at Mammoth since the Forum is defunct. I have an MA in Urban Studies and I am trying to find a related job in NYC. I have had a few internships and jobs since I graduated in May 2016 but I nothing resembling a career. Where can I look? What can I do?
LinkedIn here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/gobogdanxcvetkovic/
@Dashapants
Funny how often that happens.
Paul the Evangelist, Muhammad, Joseph Smith, Gerald Gardner, the list goes on. And would probably go on further i we could put names to the founders of Shinto, Shenism, Judaism, Hinduism, etc. etc.
We dont like to think of women having bodily functions, because ew! What a turn off! We prefer that women try to keep up the illusion that they are sex objects, and NOT human beings.
But also….
We sometimes like to think that these sex objects have bodily functions, similar to that of a human’s, so that its easier to not lust after them. Hey! She just farted! HAHA! ITS LIKE SHE’S NOT A TANTALIZING SEX OBJECT AT ALL!
That showed her!
@Ooglyboggles
Couldn’t read that aloud to my boyfriend without laughing so hard. He was similarly amused.
@JS
That’s funny, especially because I originally typed “female rubble.” Snorfle.
Interestingly (amusingly?), many MGTOWs like to describe themselves with Buddhist terms such as ‘detached’ and ‘zen-like,’ but as someone long-interested in Buddhism, MGTOW ‘philosophy-vs-practice’ always reminds me of an old zen koan that I’m fond of:
Two monks were traveling together, and came at length to a wide river from which the bridge had been swept away by the stream. A finely-dressed woman was standing there in some distress, and she told the monks that she was unable to ford the river on her own, and asked if they might help her. The older monk unhesitatingly lifted her in his arms and carried her across the river, setting her down gently at the other side.
The woman thanked the monks graciously and went along her way, as the monks carried on. The younger monk was furious! He stayed silent for hours in anger until he couldn’t take it any longer and said to the elder, ‘Why did you carry her? We’re sworn to stay away from women, and yet you touched one!’
The elder monk replied, ‘I left the woman by the river’s edge – why are you still carrying her?’
@Francesca
Luckily, Katie — She who created the worlds — has a sense of humor.
Come out of that trashcan.
@freneticferret that’s awesome.
As to what comes to the misogynism of the historical Buddha, it’s hard to evaluate, because even the oldest texts claiming to be his words are written several hundreds of years after his death. He did allow women in the sangha after all. The story about his reluctance and the garudhamma rules may well be added in later. But it’s hard to say much about the man behind the myth…
@Francesca
Since the website automatically goes to latest page, it also happened to be the very first comment I read for the thread. XD
My brain went: “What! That’s…actually utterly unsurprising. Proceed as normal.” 😛
As Diptych said, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with any of that.
@Ouroboros13
I’m not sure what an MA in Urban Studies translates to in practical terms in your case, considering it’s multidisciplinary (public policy, various non-profits, urban development/gentrification, etc.) but you could try getting a job with one of the many city orgs such as:
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/
http://www.frauncestavernmuseum.org/
Here is a listing of different orgs (it shows volunteer opportunities, but you can also just research an org that you like to see if you can get on paid staff with them): https://www.nycservice.org/organizations/
Or you can try for a job with the city itself:
http://www1.nyc.gov/site/lpc/index.page
You can also try for a job at any number of real estate managing agencies such as:
http://www.nbmgmt.com/
https://www.andrewsbc.com/
https://www.fsresidential.com/new-york/home
http://www.midboro.com/
http://www.goldinmgmt.com/
http://centuryny.com/
http://www.bhsusa.com/
Schools, colleges, and universities in the city are also routinely looking for people to work in their administrative offices or on developing new programs. There are always jobs in academia.
That’s all I can give you off the top of my head this late at night.
… That being said, Buddhism has a huge problem with misogyny and people who fanperson it tend to dismiss and enable it. The reform in 1800-1900’s and missionary work in the West (creating dialogue) did some good, but it was mostly a male project.
There was even a special on PBS I think with medical scans of a couple attempting sex in some small MRI/CAT scan tubes.
@ Dalillama
From what I understand, Muhammad himself had a lot fewer hangups about women than pretty much all his contemporaries, certainly as far as legal protections (like guaranteed inheritance and right to divorce) went…which started unraveling almost as soon as he died, especially two years after once Umar took over.
(…if there is not an alternate history story out there somewhere where Aisha becomes the political leader of the Ummah after her husband’s death, I suddenly desperately want it.)
@Pearl Clutcher
Yeah, it’s certainly not free of its own faults, but I think there’s a lot of good to be learned from it. There is with most religions – I love learning about world religions, and haven’t found any that I agree with 100%, but I also haven’t found any that didn’t have at least one good lesson. Unfortunately, a lot of people suck at learning from the good parts, and they focus on the ones they feel benefit them personally by giving them power and authority.
@Ouroboros13
Wait, hang on, I’m barking up the wrong tree here. You’re mainly a writer, analyst, musician… hmm…
Here’s an off the wall suggestion. Try for a job with any of the Smoosh & Smoosh Inc. productions or any other immersive theater / experience groups that inundate the city and its immediate outskirts. There’s jobs in organizing, writing, producing, music, concept development, location scouting and management, marketing. It’s a thriving market for creative types at the moment.
Many thanks, dashpants. <3
@Francesca
Some of us pagan/ wiccan folk (current and former) have certainly made cracks about such things in moments of despair.
They know it possible to release excitement without another person, right? Seems like if they know about this they would not be so angry about being excited. I would think that MGTOW know how to do that? Of course, maybe i just naive and believing this men will actually going ‘their own way’ one day…
Buddhist here (also female). @freneticferret – that’s one of my favorite koans.
Ngl, this thread has me feeling a bit defensive. Any philosophy created by dudes in a patriarchal society is gonna have shit-nuggets of misogyny scattered in it.
That reminds me of a certain Archer episode.