One of the little stumbling blocks faced by would-be Men Going Their Own Way is that it’s hard for straight dudes to free themselves from the influence of evil women if all they do is think about how much they want to have sex with said evil women.
And so you’ll occasionally find MGTOWs asking one another what they can do to lessen their terrible lusts. And the answers are often quite horrifying — longtime WHTM readers may recall legendary MGTOW Christopher of Oregon’s lengthy disquisitions on the (alleged) unspeakable smelly horrors of the vagina, for example.
Well, he’s not the only one trying to replace sexy thoughts with grotesque ones. Consider this lust-destroying advice from today’s MGTOW of the Day, fresh from a discussion in the MGTOW subreddit.
This is actually a variation of an ancient Buddhist technique — no, really — but when combined with the intense misogyny of the MGTOWs it’s decidedly less than enlightened.
Straight women, naturally, have it much easier when it comes to the whole lust quenching thing: All they have to do to kill any lust they feel towards a particular man is to imagine that he’s a MGTOW. Works every time!
@JS
Kinda reminds me of people who take Karate lessons so that they can harm innocent people.
You are doing exactly the reverse of what the art you have learned is intended to do.
@Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
And when you get down to it, his method is ridiculously shallow. What is listing off glutes and other labels for veins, muscles, arteries and hip bones too complex for him?
EDIT link: Translation “that babe won’t look so hot when she old and wrinkly”
@Oogly-senpai
My thoughts exactly.
https://what-buddha-said.net/drops/III/The_9_Corpse_Meditations.htm
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/khantipalo/wheel271.html
In case anyone wants to see this for themselves.
Amusingly enough, there is some misogyny included.
Ha! I must have that owl mug.
And yes, sure, you can repress your desire for something or someone by convincing yourself that it, or s/he, is not really worthy of your attention. We call that “sour grapes.”
I don’t know why everyone thinks Buddhism is The Cool Religion.
Yes, it’s nice, yes, I like it.
Buddhists have also carried out bloody holy wars and commit suicide/suicide attacks, though. They are also somewhat misogynistic, actually.
I mean, their whole thing about how women will keep you from Nirvana by making you orgasm with their sinful worldly vaginas doesn’t exactly come across as putting women in a good light, but yeah, whatever, I guess.
ETA:
The Ikko-Ikki uprising was partially comprised of violent Buddhist types who wanted to bring down the Shogun of Japan.
The Shogun actually ran away from these super cool Buddhist guys who are, like, so chill, you guys.
Was gonna point out how misogyny and Buddhism go hand in hand, but Fran’s already covered that.
@Dalillama
I also stole your Historical Accuracy shtick, sorry.
Punish me, senpai, before I corrupt your path to Nirvana with my sinful lady flesh.
@Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Hell in the original texts Buddha kept women as lower status and away from men because he thought that it’d look bad. Buddhist states like the Bactrian Greek and Kushan empire were totalitarian states that warred alot. Kublai Khan, of all people, that most netizens have heard of, is Buddhist. D.T Suzuki, a person credited for introducing Buddhism to the west, was a Japanese Nationalist, a Nazi sympathizer and an antisemite. After WW2 he did a 180 and was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize.
Man I wonder why I get miffed when I see people wearing Buddhist t shirts and keep talking about buddhism in such an obnoxiously romantized version of it smh. No different than people who wear Che Guevara tees.
In one conversation, the Buddha states, “Of all the scents that can enslave, none is more lethal than that of a woman. Of all the tastes that can enslave, none is more lethal than that of a woman. Of all the voices that can enslave, none is more lethal than that of a woman. Of all the caresses that can enslave, none is more lethal than that of a woman.”
@Oogly
I endorse everything you said.
Another people like to say is that Buddhism is cool because there’s no hell.
About that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naraka_(Buddhism)
It drives me up the wall when I see smarmsters arguing that only Abrahamic religions produce bigots, that Hinduism, Buddhism, et al. are universally peace-loving and egalitarian, et al. One of those ideas that just refuses to die.
(Also – ever read The Dharma Bums? Interesting and fun book in many ways, but also just about the clearest case of Kerouac’s interest in Buddhism and his misogyny intersecting and compounding each other.)
@Diptych
We Nordic Asatruar completely own our violent heritage. A long time ago I (assuming by some happenstance I ended up out of Africa and in Germania) would have been one of the Germanic chieftains attacking the Roman legions in the Teutoberg Forest.
-Poetic Eddas of Saemundr Sigfusson
stage whispers so as not to interrupt Buddhism discussion “I like the mug too but I think one should actually have IBS to own it. I do not have IBS, but if I eat too many peanuts, WHOA NELLY!!”
@OoglyBoggles
I’m kind of flattered that he recognizes my powerfully powerful power over men.(Tosses hair.)
Thanks very much for the Swift link, @Bina, the whole thing is an excellent read! I might pull it out at an open mic some time. XD
Ugh, received and grossed out, @Francesca, well spotted. I did think the idea that sexual desire means exclusively the desire for a beautiful form (quoted in the HuffPo article) was a little traditional-masculinity-centric but this example is undeniably objectifying.
@Bina
The owl speaks for me.
I too have some sort of intestinal issues. It might be irritable bowel syndrome — not sure. At any rate, it makes life . . . interesting.
@Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Not just hell, there are 16 tiers of hell, from cold to hot and consecutively longer than the last. Avīci is the “uninterrupted” Naraka. Beings are roasted in an immense blazing oven with terrible suffering. Life in this Naraka is 3.39738624×10^18 years long. So it’s slightly less worse than JudeoChristian hell in that you do get out, eventually. You just have to serve a sentence in each higher level hell until eventually you’ll get out, it’ll be the heat death of the universe when you do but at least you get your freedom back.
@Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Hypnotizing vagina goo and Poison Ivy powers, whelp I might as well give up now cause the women’s wiles overrides my simpering manbrains.
I don’t think imagining autopsies would work for them, considering how much they already love violent and disturbing stuff involving women. They pretty much already imagine see them as body parts anyway.
warning, sarcastic comment ahead
Nuh-uh, we KNOW what’s going on in there…. We’ve noticed how women always go to the restroom in pairs, and we know it’s NOT to poop… it’s to CONSPIRE against innocent MRAs….
@ Bina;
I WAAAAANNNNNNT THAT CUP!!!!
safe for work one
https://www.amazon.com/Irritable-Owl-Syndrome-Clean-White/dp/B0188W5CY0
better one
https://www.amazon.com/Syndrome-Design-Novelty-Coffee-Office/dp/B00NA6W1JO/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1496373841&sr=1-1&keywords=Irritable+Owl+Syndrome+mug
MGTOWs, you can try every technique known to (ahem) man.
Nothing will work. Except one technique. Old age — and even that isn’t completely successful.
Love makes the world go ’round.
By and large, buddhism’s misogyny was mostly the result of Siddhartha’s own personal hangups about women. Like all religions, it is to be taken with a whole bagful of salt.
@Boogerghost
Glad I could help!
@Diptych
No, I haven’t read it, which is a massive failure on my part as an author who has read longtime classics such as Bukowski and Hemingway, etc.
Thanks for recommending it!
@Oogly, others re: religion
Even Wicca, which is considered nice, draws from pre-Christian British beliefs, part of which incorporated Druidic belief.
You’re all lucky Wiccans haven’t chosen to include slitting a man’s throat in a grove and pouring his blood into a bowl, or burning people in Wicker statues of giant men, or else those anti-Trump wiccans would be packing cishet white male Trumpkins in big Wicker Men and setting them ablaze.
@Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
I do like some of the core philosophy of Buddhism…but yeah I can’t deny that it’s kind of a shitty religion.
There’s a midrash about Eve that says God created her from the inside out, before Adam’s eyes. He was so revolted that God knocked him out and started over, fashioning Eve anew from a rib while Adam slept.
The wicker man burning stuff might have been Roman propaganda.
@Kupo
That’s because he has a classy wife, far, far above the female rabble.
He demands that kind of elegance in a woman, which is why he chastised Hillary for mentioning her bathroom break. She uses a toilet? SAD!
Of course, just because Melania is special enough to marry doesn’t mean that she’s special enough for her husband to treat her well. Or even civilly.
@AsAboveSoBelow
TBF if I saw someone turn a mass of writhing flesh, bones and organs into a person in front of me, I don’t think I would be all that up for sex.