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Overcome lust by imagining women as chopped-up body parts, MGTOW of the Day recommends

This technique does not work for everyone

One of the little stumbling blocks faced by would-be Men Going Their Own Way is that it’s hard for straight dudes to free themselves from the influence of evil women if all they do is think about how much they want to have sex with said evil women.

And so you’ll occasionally find MGTOWs asking one another what they can do to lessen their terrible lusts. And the answers are often quite horrifying — longtime WHTM readers may recall legendary MGTOW Christopher of Oregon’s lengthy disquisitions on the (alleged) unspeakable smelly horrors of the vagina, for example.

Well, he’s not the only one trying to replace sexy thoughts with grotesque ones. Consider this lust-destroying advice from today’s MGTOW of the Day, fresh from a discussion in the MGTOW subreddit.

bitter_samsara 7 points 7 hours ago This isn't for everyone, but one technique is to visualize each body part and fluid separately for what it is. For example, a butt which can look beautiful but imagine the bones, sinew, meat, blood. There is poop that inside, which smells really bad. These things are just organized in such a way that the form appears to be pleasing, but in reality it's disgusting. Visualize those separate things being combined to make a butt, but see those for what they are. If you're not faint of heart, you can see the reality of how disgusting the human body is through autopsies, but really this isn't necessary unless you've decided this is a good technique for you.

This is actually a variation of an ancient Buddhist technique — no, really — but when combined with the intense misogyny of the MGTOWs it’s decidedly less than enlightened.

Straight women, naturally, have it much easier when it comes to the whole lust quenching thing: All they have to do to kill any lust they feel towards a particular man is to imagine that he’s a MGTOW. Works every time!

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Checkmate
Checkmate
3 years ago

I would’ve figured these guys would naturally see women as pieces of meat, given the way they talk about them.

Cleon
Cleon
3 years ago

This guy deals with lust by visualizing autopsies. I think this guy was the subject of a Criminal Minds episode.

Tosca, Chaos made Flesh
Tosca, Chaos made Flesh
3 years ago

I’m gonna guess this guy doesn’t have to imagine women he lusts after as dismembered body parts. He already has them in his freezer. Jesus.

Diptych
Diptych
3 years ago

It feels somehow significant that this screed aimed at helping these people detach themselves from humanity and visualise their enemies as corpses also includes the, er, “sentence” “There is poop that inside, which smells really bad.”

dreemr
dreemr
3 years ago

Kill any lust I would feel toward a man? But I’m a woman.

We don’t lust, DUH.

/sarcasm.

Haise, the husky puppy
Haise, the husky puppy
3 years ago
Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

MGTOW you’re supposed to root for the detectives stopping the serial killer, not the serial killer themself.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Does this guy know how anatomy works? Poop doesn’t just sit right next to your anus until you decide you feel like shitting. The shape of someone’s glutes has absolutely nothing to do with poop either.

It is kind of amazing how horrified MGTOW always are that women are people. We poop? We have blood and organs? Oh, the horror! They seem to think it’s a grievous offense that we aren’t angels or sex dolls or something.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

Does he think poop just sits in the cheeks?

Also, what the fuck is meat? Like, he specifies sinew, but then it’s just… meat. Cos that’s not extra creepy on top of everything else

@Cleon

I think this guy was the subject of a Criminal Minds episode

At least one…

Bina
3 years ago

“There is poop inside, which smells really bad.”

Is this guy talking about his own skull? Because I think he’s onto something there.

Zephkiel - Feminist MGTOW
Zephkiel - Feminist MGTOW
3 years ago

This is just bizarre. When I decided to stop pursuing relationships, I didn’t actually need to stop myself finding women attractive. I have been “going my own way” (otherwise known as not entering romantic relationships or having sex) for more than a year now, and I still find women attractive. I just… don’t do anything about it? Why is that not an option for these assholes?

(I actually know the answer – they hate women and hate that they find women attractive. I like women, as a group, but recognise my previous relationship behaviour with women was unhealthy. They have a lot more cognitive dissonance than me.)

DMW
DMW
3 years ago

This is the kind of thinking that makes Dexter Morgan give you the side-eye.

Bina
3 years ago

Ahem:

Thus finishing his grand survey,
Disgusted Strephon stole away
Repeating in his amorous fits,
Oh! Celia, Celia, Celia shits!
But Vengeance, goddess never sleeping
Soon punished Strephon for his peeping;
His foul imagination links
Each Dame he sees with all her stinks:
And, if unsavory odors fly,
Conceives a lady standing by:
All women his description fits,
And both ideas jump like wits:
But vicious fancy coupled fast,
And still appearing in contrast.
I pity wretched Strephon blind
To all the charms of female kind;
Should I the queen of love refuse,
Because she rose from stinking ooze?
To him that looks behind the scene,
Satira’s but some pocky queen.
When Celia in her glory shows,
If Strephon would but stop his nose
(Who now so impiously blasphemes
Her ointments, daubs, and paints and creams,
Her washes, slops, and every clout,
With which he makes so foul a rout)
He soon would learn to think like me,
And bless his ravished sight to see
Such order from confusion sprung,
Such gaudy tulips raised from dung.

Obviously, this dude would only take that whole thing literally. Because he just has the soul of a poet, as we all know. /s

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

It is kind of amazing how horrified MGTOW always are that women are people. We poop? We have blood and organs? Oh, the horror! They seem to think it’s a grievous offense that we aren’t angels or sex dolls or something.

And Lord Dampnut has actually convinced himself that his wife doesn’t fart or poop.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

I reckon it never occurs to MGTOWs to not be horrible people?

Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
3 years ago

Face it– these people WANT to be miserable.

Checkmate
Checkmate
3 years ago

And Lord Dampnut has actually convinced himself that his wife doesn’t fart or poop.

Imagine when they learn that women sometimes get intestinal issues. I could only imagine the looks on the faces of the many, many MGTOWs who seem to believe women don’t use the restroom at all.

Rachel
Rachel
3 years ago

Look at the bright side, at least dismembered parts aren’t making them lust more. They at least have that going for them, I hope.

A Rose for Emily
A Rose for Emily
3 years ago

You beat me to it: I was going to point out that it’s almost verbatim a Buddhist technique. Which makes slightly more sense when you consider that monks are not only called to celibacy, but that a primary objective of Buddhism is to eliminate “craving” of every kind. So you might combat gluttony by visualizing that your food all turns to poop, for example.

But anyway, I also notice that the MGTOW who offered this brilliant advice is named “bitter_samsara,” which is interesting because ‘samsara” is the Buddhist term for the cycle of death and rebirth that one escapes by following the eightfold path.

It’s a tad mind-bending that someone has apparently both dedicated himself to practicing both Buddhism and misogyny. Escaping samsara requires elimination of hatred as well as craving…

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

Has anyone mentioned that this is reminiscent of Buddhist corpse meditation practice?

Ah, yes, they did. I knew I could count on y’all!

Bina
3 years ago

@Checkmate:

Imagine when they learn that women sometimes get intestinal issues. I could only imagine the looks on the faces of the many, many MGTOWs who seem to believe women don’t use the restroom at all.

Oh boy, I could regale these bozos with tales of my irritable bowels. And the fact that I have the diarrheal type of IBS, too. It might even get them Going Their Own Way At Long Last!

Also relevant:

comment image

I need to order me one of these, it looks the perfect size for drinking menzer tears.

paleotectonics
3 years ago

Jesus Christ hanging by a nutsack, these dumbass fuckers should get the Clockwork Orange treatment with Deutsche Scheisse porn.

Already malformed grey matter strewn about the landscape…

Tov01
Tov01
3 years ago

@Bina
That owl speaks to me on a deep level.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Bina
Mine alternates between both extremes, so I’ve had everything in the poop chart plus I have distinct types in between to boot. Basically, the chart isn’t varied enough to describe me! That’s actually why I didn’t know I had IBS until it started to improve – I wouldn’t stay on one end long enough for the recommendation for when you should see a doctor. So I’d be constipated for like 5 days but then it would clear up and then I’d have diarrhea for 4, and so on. I just thought it was normal because I’d always been that way.

JS
JS
3 years ago

I have ice cream.
I have no ice cream.
It’ is an ice cream koan.

Makes as much sense as using Buddhist techniques to improve your misogyny.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

@JS

Kinda reminds me of people who take Karate lessons so that they can harm innocent people.

You are doing exactly the reverse of what the art you have learned is intended to do.

Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
And when you get down to it, his method is ridiculously shallow. What is listing off glutes and other labels for veins, muscles, arteries and hip bones too complex for him?

EDIT link: Translation “that babe won’t look so hot when she old and wrinkly”

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

@Oogly-senpai

My thoughts exactly.

https://what-buddha-said.net/drops/III/The_9_Corpse_Meditations.htm
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/khantipalo/wheel271.html

In case anyone wants to see this for themselves.

Amusingly enough, there is some misogyny included.

“And what is gratification in the case of form (body)?

“Suppose there were a girl of warrior-noble cast or brahmin caste or householder stock, in her fifteenth or sixteenth year, neither too tall nor too short, neither too thin nor too fat, neither too dark nor too fair: is her beauty and loveliness then at its height?”

“Yes, venerable sir.”

“Now the pleasure and joy that arise in dependence on that beauty and loveliness are the gratification in the case of form.

“And what is danger in the case of form?

“Later on one might see that same woman here at eighty, ninety or a hundred years, aged, as crooked as a roof, doubled up, tottering with the aid of sticks, frail, her youth gone, her teeth broken, grey haired, scanty-haired, bald, wrinkled, with limbs all blotchy: how do you conceive this, bhikkhus, has her former beauty and loveliness vanished and the danger become evident?”

“Yes, venerable sir.”

“Bhikkhus, this is the danger in the case of form.”

Iseult The Idle
Iseult The Idle
3 years ago

Ha! I must have that owl mug.

And yes, sure, you can repress your desire for something or someone by convincing yourself that it, or s/he, is not really worthy of your attention. We call that “sour grapes.”

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

I don’t know why everyone thinks Buddhism is The Cool Religion.

Yes, it’s nice, yes, I like it.

Buddhists have also carried out bloody holy wars and commit suicide/suicide attacks, though. They are also somewhat misogynistic, actually.

I mean, their whole thing about how women will keep you from Nirvana by making you orgasm with their sinful worldly vaginas doesn’t exactly come across as putting women in a good light, but yeah, whatever, I guess.

ETA:

The Ikko-Ikki uprising was partially comprised of violent Buddhist types who wanted to bring down the Shogun of Japan.

The Shogun actually ran away from these super cool Buddhist guys who are, like, so chill, you guys.

The origins of the Ikko-Ikki can be found in the 1400’s, where small groups who followed the Jodo-Shinshu or “Pure Land” sect of Buddhism had united as one. They followed the belief that only wholehearted devotion to Amida Buddha would bring salvation. This single union permeated throughout their ranks, even in their name, which means “single minded league”

Their role as a military force reached its peak when they gained control of the entire province of Kaga in 1488, a territory they managed to hold for 100 years. In 1528, the Ikko-Ikki so sure of their might decided to attack the capitol of Japan, Kyoto. The sight of their advancing army of fanatical Buddhist monks was so terrifying that to quote Dr. Turnbull “even the presence of the Hokke-Shu the townsmen army could not stop the Shogun from running away”.

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

Was gonna point out how misogyny and Buddhism go hand in hand, but Fran’s already covered that.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

@Dalillama

I also stole your Historical Accuracy shtick, sorry.

Punish me, senpai, before I corrupt your path to Nirvana with my sinful lady flesh.

Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major

Hell in the original texts Buddha kept women as lower status and away from men because he thought that it’d look bad. Buddhist states like the Bactrian Greek and Kushan empire were totalitarian states that warred alot. Kublai Khan, of all people, that most netizens have heard of, is Buddhist. D.T Suzuki, a person credited for introducing Buddhism to the west, was a Japanese Nationalist, a Nazi sympathizer and an antisemite. After WW2 he did a 180 and was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize.

Man I wonder why I get miffed when I see people wearing Buddhist t shirts and keep talking about buddhism in such an obnoxiously romantized version of it smh. No different than people who wear Che Guevara tees.

In one conversation, the Buddha states, “Of all the scents that can enslave, none is more lethal than that of a woman. Of all the tastes that can enslave, none is more lethal than that of a woman. Of all the voices that can enslave, none is more lethal than that of a woman. Of all the caresses that can enslave, none is more lethal than that of a woman.”

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

@Oogly

I endorse everything you said.

Another people like to say is that Buddhism is cool because there’s no hell.

About that:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naraka_(Buddhism)

Diptych
Diptych
3 years ago

It drives me up the wall when I see smarmsters arguing that only Abrahamic religions produce bigots, that Hinduism, Buddhism, et al. are universally peace-loving and egalitarian, et al. One of those ideas that just refuses to die.

(Also – ever read The Dharma Bums? Interesting and fun book in many ways, but also just about the clearest case of Kerouac’s interest in Buddhism and his misogyny intersecting and compounding each other.)

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

@Diptych

We Nordic Asatruar completely own our violent heritage. A long time ago I (assuming by some happenstance I ended up out of Africa and in Germania) would have been one of the Germanic chieftains attacking the Roman legions in the Teutoberg Forest.

Odin shot a spear, hurled it over the host; that was still the first war.

-Poetic Eddas of Saemundr Sigfusson

dreemr
dreemr
3 years ago

stage whispers so as not to interrupt Buddhism discussion “I like the mug too but I think one should actually have IBS to own it. I do not have IBS, but if I eat too many peanuts, WHOA NELLY!!”

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

@OoglyBoggles

In one conversation, the Buddha states, “Of all the scents that can enslave, none is more lethal than that of a woman. Of all the tastes that can enslave, none is more lethal than that of a woman. Of all the voices that can enslave, none is more lethal than that of a woman. Of all the caresses that can enslave, none is more lethal than that of a woman.”

I’m kind of flattered that he recognizes my powerfully powerful power over men.(Tosses hair.)

Boogerghost
Boogerghost
3 years ago

Thanks very much for the Swift link, @Bina, the whole thing is an excellent read! I might pull it out at an open mic some time. XD

Ugh, received and grossed out, @Francesca, well spotted. I did think the idea that sexual desire means exclusively the desire for a beautiful form (quoted in the HuffPo article) was a little traditional-masculinity-centric but this example is undeniably objectifying.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

@Bina
The owl speaks for me.

I too have some sort of intestinal issues. It might be irritable bowel syndrome — not sure. At any rate, it makes life . . . interesting.

Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major

Not just hell, there are 16 tiers of hell, from cold to hot and consecutively longer than the last. Avīci is the “uninterrupted” Naraka. Beings are roasted in an immense blazing oven with terrible suffering. Life in this Naraka is 3.39738624×10^18 years long. So it’s slightly less worse than JudeoChristian hell in that you do get out, eventually. You just have to serve a sentence in each higher level hell until eventually you’ll get out, it’ll be the heat death of the universe when you do but at least you get your freedom back.

@Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Hypnotizing vagina goo and Poison Ivy powers, whelp I might as well give up now cause the women’s wiles overrides my simpering manbrains.

BritterSweet
3 years ago

I don’t think imagining autopsies would work for them, considering how much they already love violent and disturbing stuff involving women. They pretty much already imagine see them as body parts anyway.

Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
3 years ago

warning, sarcastic comment ahead

MGTOWs who seem to believe women don’t use the restroom at all.

Nuh-uh, we KNOW what’s going on in there…. We’ve noticed how women always go to the restroom in pairs, and we know it’s NOT to poop… it’s to CONSPIRE against innocent MRAs….

@ Bina;

I WAAAAANNNNNNT THAT CUP!!!!

safe for work one

https://www.amazon.com/Irritable-Owl-Syndrome-Clean-White/dp/B0188W5CY0

better one

https://www.amazon.com/Syndrome-Design-Novelty-Coffee-Office/dp/B00NA6W1JO/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1496373841&sr=1-1&keywords=Irritable+Owl+Syndrome+mug

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

MGTOWs, you can try every technique known to (ahem) man.

Nothing will work. Except one technique. Old age — and even that isn’t completely successful.

Love makes the world go ’round.

dashapants
dashapants
3 years ago

By and large, buddhism’s misogyny was mostly the result of Siddhartha’s own personal hangups about women. Like all religions, it is to be taken with a whole bagful of salt.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

@Boogerghost

Glad I could help!

@Diptych

No, I haven’t read it, which is a massive failure on my part as an author who has read longtime classics such as Bukowski and Hemingway, etc.

Thanks for recommending it!

@Oogly, others re: religion

Even Wicca, which is considered nice, draws from pre-Christian British beliefs, part of which incorporated Druidic belief.

You’re all lucky Wiccans haven’t chosen to include slitting a man’s throat in a grove and pouring his blood into a bowl, or burning people in Wicker statues of giant men, or else those anti-Trump wiccans would be packing cishet white male Trumpkins in big Wicker Men and setting them ablaze.

Buffalo Headroom (it doesn't have to make sense)

@Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major

I do like some of the core philosophy of Buddhism…but yeah I can’t deny that it’s kind of a shitty religion.

AsAboveSoBelow
AsAboveSoBelow
3 years ago

There’s a midrash about Eve that says God created her from the inside out, before Adam’s eyes. He was so revolted that God knocked him out and started over, fashioning Eve anew from a rib while Adam slept.

The wicker man burning stuff might have been Roman propaganda.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

@Kupo

And Lord Dampnut has actually convinced himself that his wife doesn’t fart or poop.

That’s because he has a classy wife, far, far above the female rabble.

He demands that kind of elegance in a woman, which is why he chastised Hillary for mentioning her bathroom break. She uses a toilet? SAD!

Of course, just because Melania is special enough to marry doesn’t mean that she’s special enough for her husband to treat her well. Or even civilly.

Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@AsAboveSoBelow
TBF if I saw someone turn a mass of writhing flesh, bones and organs into a person in front of me, I don’t think I would be all that up for sex.

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