In the wake of the Portland train stabbings that left two men dead and one seriously wounded after they tried to stop a white supremacist from harassing several women, Paul Elam — still probably the best-known Men’s Rights Activist online — posted a tweet that spoke volumes — not about the incident itself, but about the utter moral bankruptcy of the Men’s Rights movement.
https://twitter.com/anearformen/status/868917239143178240
When other Tweeters objected, Elam doubled down and began spewing insults — aimed not just at his critics but at the murdered men themselves.
https://twitter.com/anearformen/status/869066210964631552
https://twitter.com/anearformen/status/869068999577006080
In one tweet, he suggested that the victims themselves were the cause of the violence that left them dead.
https://twitter.com/anearformen/status/869064408252772354
In his capacity as a leader of what is essentially a hate movement, Elam has said many terrible things over the years — from his post suggesting that women who go home with men without wanting to have sex with them are “damn near demanding” to be raped” to a short story offering an apologia for — indeed, a glorification of — domestic abuse. These tweets, I think, rank up there with his most reprehensible writings, for two main reasons.
First, as many observers have noted, it was not “chivalry” that killed these men. It was an angry and hateful man with a knife who was harassing women on a train.
Elam thinks it unfair that the tenets of chivalry call upon men to protect women — why should men have to serve as unpaid bodyguards for women, he has often asked? What he doesn’t like to talk about is that these volunteer bodyguards aren’t protecting women from bears — there aren’t a lot of those in my neighborhood — but in the overwhelming majority of cases from other men.
There are a lot of problematic things about “white knights,” as Elam insists upon calling them, but the plain fact is that the “good men” that Elam castigates as terminally stupid would be out of a job if there weren’t so many bad men around harassing and abusing women.
Second, and perhaps more importantly, Elam is essentially declaring war on the very thing that sets us apart from brute nature — our ability to feel empathy for others, including people unlike ourselves. A man standing up for a woman who’s being harassed may or may not be engaging in an act of chivalry but it is certainly an act of altruism and basic human solidarity. It’s driven by the same empathetic and altruistic impulse that led so many non-Muslims here in the US to rush to their nearest airports to protest Trump’s Muslim ban.
This sort of cross-cultural solidarity is pretty much the only thing that can save our country from the hatred and meanness that is Trumpism. We need more empathy, not less.
Elam would rather we raise our sons not to feel this sort of empathy towards women. That’s bad enough. But he’s not the only MRA with an empathy problem. And it isn’t confined to his feelings about women.
It’s not just that MRAs are indifferent towards, if not actively hostile, towards women; they lack empathy towards boys and men as well. Indeed, in one notorious post (archived here; I wrote about it here), Elam literally told the “troubled men” who have turned to A Voice For Men for help to ““go fucking bother someone else with your problems” if they weren’t donating money to his site, which is to say him, as he keeps the donations for himself.
Even though he seems to have taken in literally hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations over the years, he’s never bothered to even try to set up, say, a hotline for men. Instead, he’s set himself up as a sort of ersatz internet therapist for men — he has no actual training as a therapist — literally charging the “troubled men” he claims to be an advocate for $90 an hour to talk to him on Skype.
But he’s not the only MRA who combines a hatred for women with an utter lack of interest in doing anything altruistic for their fellow men.
In the first few years of second wave feminism in the late 60s and early 70s, feminist activists set up shelters and women’s centers and countless other entities designed to benefit women in desperate need of help. In the seven years I’ve been covering the Men;s Rights movement, MRAs haven’t even set up a single hotline, much less a functional men’s shelter. The only notable MRA, er, victory? Being so obnoxious they’ve convinced numerous media sites to shut down their formerly MRA-infested comments sections.
It’s no wonder MRAs feel such hostility towards real heroes. They’re only heroes in their own minds.
Aulma,
Although I know this is a movie quote, please be mindful of the comment policy…thanks.
omg… Is wearing red laces in leather boots a thing? A skinhead thing? Because I have some beautiful leather boots and some pretty red laces that I made out of paracord that I really love.
You know who created men? WOMEN did! With their wombs! So everything that’s been created was thanks to women.
Checkmate, TinyNightmare!
@PeeVee
What you did to what he said?!?
Rhuu,
It means the wearer has shed blood in the name of the skinheads.
Rhuu,
I don’t know, because the guy in that video has multi-colored hair, which is not typically a Nazi thing…
@YourGreatestNightmare You sad pathetic fuck.
Alright Frank Loyd Wright, what did you build today? Which cog of the great machine that is civilization did you forge with your own two hands? What have you done to justify your existence?
Nothing, huh? No ranting at strangers from your mother’s basement doesn’t count.
And the only person being owned here is you, by shitbags like Elam. You may as well tattoo sucker on your forehead.
@Nobody’s Greatest Anything:
As submission IS suffering, I choose NO. Now fuck off and quit wanking here.
@Valentine,
I ran some text through this, one of my favorite sites to deal with troll nonsense:
http://thinkzone.wlonk.com/Gibber/GibGen.htm?
Going back a page here:
Comments policy, thanks. As much as Tropic Thunder’s one of my all-time favourite movies, problematic warts and all, that particular line really didn’t age well.
@numerobis:
I think the auto-embed doesn’t work if you have https:// in the link, only for http://.
@PeeVee
Klass ))) so it changes all what you put in to garbage? Or its like code?
Honestly, you would think I learned not to bodyshame from when I was a small awkward plump kid, but naaaaah.
I just became an idiot, albeit a thinner, strong one. Fuck my entire life.
I’m trying to dismiss learned behavior of that sort and I am super grateful to y’all for bringing it to my attention.
I beat the whole ableism thing, I can beat this too.
Against internalized bigotry, there is no true victory. Only progress and work. And eventually we become less shitty as people.
I have moments where I do or say things I shouldn’t. Sometimes I catch myself, sometimes I don’t. Things happen.
Whoops, sorry. I forgot about the policy. I’ll be more careful from now on. ☺
Well, shit, I posted the same thing SFHC did 10 minutes before, but I quoted exactly, so it got hung up in moderation…
How did Aulma’s get through?
I’m still totally confused by ‘the handmaid’s tale isn’t fooling anyone’. Who the hell does trolly think the tv show is trying to fool? what? so confused
Valentine,
It has 6 levels of gibberish for each imputed text you can use.
From the site:
“Gibberish is generated by a remarkably simple computer program. For a description of the algorithm, see “What is Gibberish?”
Level 1 is based on the statistical distribution of single characters.Level 2 is based on the statistical distribution of character pairs.Level n is based on the statistical distribution of groups of n characters.”
You can any text you’d like, or choose from their samples, which include Hamlet, Pooh, Kafka, and Quixote.
It’s hella fun.
Enjoy!
isidore13, I’ll bet Guardians of the Galaxy didn’t fool him one bit, either, as woke as he is.
@Fran
Learning hella lessons, all hella day. That’s how we do
http://www.moneyoverethics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/My-aim-is-to-only-move-forward.jpg
@Valentine
Looks like it’s garbage generated based on groups of letters, not some kind of code. I’m curious to look at the java script but I’m on my phone right now.
PeeVee, cool! So it will work in all languages? I’m going to try now ?
@PeeVee I have no idea. Then again I’ve only been here for 3 days, still have a lot to learn.
@isidore13
Well, if I were to take my perception of the world, throw it all out, reassign the value of facts, evidence and other trappings of reality to “zero”, and then…I still can’t comprehend anything about this.
But if we parse, or to be really honest – partially parse because understanding such pointlessness is not worth my time – the troll’s “post”, we find that troll thinks that men made everything and have fought every war ever to increase women’s station, and that women currently are are the “dominant” gender. If we start from the assumption that women are privileged over men (And ignore anything remotely related to facts, logic, reason, evidence, or reality), then “The Handmaid’s Tale” starts to look a little bit like a propaganda piece to convince men not to rise up against women.
Again, though, the only people who could honestly believe that are the perfect storm of: Misogynist, insecure, and foolish. So, at least half of all men could believe that.
@Alan Robertshaw
“Do you mind if I ask how old you are?”
Old enough to know bettah. Wise enough to dispense with the gynocentric bull shite. Young enough to escape total destruction at the hands of entitled, misandric gynocentrists. Astute enough to immediately dismiss white knights. Smart enough to stay single and skip the whole marriage trap. Blessed enough to separate fact from fiction.
Am older than I’d ever thought possible, but still an infant, relatively speaking that is.