Over on the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, the fellas are discussing a pressing problem of contemporary society: “Why must men always be better than the women they are trying to date?”
Men have to be better that the women they date? I’m sure this must come as unexpected news to many if not most of the women I’ve dated. But let’s set that aside for a moment.
Today’s MGTOW of the Day, a dude calling himself DangZagnut, thinks the whole “men have to be better” thing, which he thinks is a real thing, has to do with the fact that ladies don’t actually like sex.
Let’s let him explain:
Given that virtually everything in this comment is complete nonsense, I’d say that DangZagnut has not answered the question he set out to answer. But his comment does raise another important question: Why are MGTOWs the absolute worst?
“Who dares invade the kingdom of Cuckland to slay the Beta males who reside here and take our hypergamous women?”
“It is I, Kilometers of Penis!”
Women only make rape accusations, cos they’re less horny than men. You heard it here, men can’t be raped. Miggie asslogic, QED
Also, you ever maybe think that having literally zero standards for potential partners outside of just ‘showing up’ might have something to do with why women aren’t lining up to fuck you?
@Lyzzy
Wooow…
@Lindsay
WWTH, oh, God that thread.
I had forgotten what sniveling little shits MRAL and NWO were.
Assholes.
I used to actually know someone who thought that all women wanted children, and if they claimed they didn’t, it was all part of a trap. He was also convinced that “the child support money” was the primary motivator in this decision-making process.
If you do the math, it’s one of the more fantastically stupid ideas I’ve ever heard. On average, daycare costs substantially more than the average child support award (assuming you can collect it- the default rate isn’t thrilling) until the child is in full-day school. So completely setting aside the wear, tear, and risk of pregnancy and delivery, and assuming the father pays on time and completely, you’re immediately in the hole just for daycare for five or six years. You also get the pleasure of 24/7 responsibility for a small person who has ten times as much energy as you do and is totally immune to reason. Children have other associated expenses like food, clothing, shelter, toys, and healthcare. So that’s a pretty significant investment of time and money just to get them to the first grade.
After that, the cost of daycare drops somewhat, but there’s still food, clothing, shelter, toys, and healthcare, plus activities. You might clear enough for a trip to Starbucks every month from your sweet, sweet child support money.
Getting a night job working fast food is a much better and much easier get-rich-quick scheme.
I have a sex drive, but no desire to reproduce whatsoever. I wonder what that makes me — a unicorn? Only in Migtoe Dingus Land…
Also, “But now that I’m done being a dick” — oh, dude, don’t flatter yourself. You won’t be done with that until the undertaker nails your coffin shut.
@Bina
Dear Diary,
Today I found out Bina is actually Rarity.
@Vespertine
You’re looking at this the wrong way.
Women do this to hurt men.
It’s not the monetary value of the child support money they’re after. It’s the fact that the man would have to shell out some bucks after helping to make a baby — which by the way is totally UNFAIR (to quote Donald Trump on a different subject) — and he would hate to part with that cash.
In other words, women will go to any lengths — even harming themselves in the process — just to annoy/bedevil/harass/beleaguer/torment/oppress men.
It’s a hobby. A pastime. It’s what we do instead of enjoying sexual pleasure.
The world in which Ms Pavlov’s House and I live differs significantly from the world of DangZagnut.
I cannot empathize enough just how significantly.
By the way I apologize to those I did not sufficiently answer on one of the open threads a few weeks ago. Did not mean to blow off anyone….got bogged down at work. I enjoy all of you though!
I went to an all boys’ school, and yeah I remember some pretty weird (and frankly kind of awful) ideas about women going around. Even so, the worst, stupidest, most misogynistic nonsense that I heard was a pale shadow compared to MGTOW stuff. I guess it’s the difference between ignorance in the sense of ‘not having enough information’ and ignorance in the sense of ‘motivated awfulness’.
“empathize” above was supposed to be “emphasize”
Do young men and boys need to be educated on the dangers of commitment marriage and dating in modern society? Who besides mgtow is filling this need in society?
@Fran:
Heh…that’s not a bad likeness, actually. I mean, I don’t have the purple hair, but her beauty-mark is a mirror image of mine.
(Note to self: Try a purple wig sometime…)
Still JAQing off, I see.
Oh, goody. It’s bad MGTOW Theater time.
I’m going to just watch the paint drying video unstead.
Lyzzy:
That’s a very uh….. telling name.
Dick Masterson is Dax Herrera, who I’ve seen on Funny or Die.
Oh man, I just finished reading a long thread with the troll in an earlier article. Here it goes again.
Something to give you guys some energy before the fun starts:
So I clicked on the video and started brushing my teeth. It’s very calming and soothing to have a calm voice with trance music and beautiful majestic sea creatures (with jackass humans bugging them). Then I started realizing that there wasn’t going to be a punchline to the joke, that it was actually sincere.
So now I’m watching my cat catch a fly.
EDIT: oh, she got it! Good kitty!
OMG, BritterSweet, that video is brilliant!
So, uh…this will very much be TMI/NSFW territory, but:
I do happen to have a “breeding” kink. Specifically with cum and eggs, because it feels really, really good. I like feeling those two things ooze out, and I like the way they feel inside. It’s a sensory thing, but it’s also plays into some other kinks I have, depending on the situation. (But I digress.)
What I don’t have a kink for, and what I don’t desire at ALL, is “procreation”. (Especially when labeled as such, with such clinical levels of unsexiness. Ew.)
I don’t want babies.
Pregnancy is terrifying to me. I don’t want to have all my organs shoved up in my ribcage. I don’t want the morning sickness, I don’t want the perpetual pain, I don’t want people touching my belly without asking, I don’t want swollen feet, I don’t want to miss work, I don’t want to have to shove a 7-10 pound screeching blood-soaked raisin out of my vagina and into the world, especially as it is now. I don’t want people cooing at me, I don’t want people telling me how WONDERFUL my life is going to be now that I’m “complete” with a child.
(No offense to people who do want to give birth or have, but it’s not for me.)
I don’t want pregnancy, I don’t want birth, I don’t want anything associated with “procreation” beyond the breeder stuff.
So, I always go for synthetic cum (and of course I want to eventually secure some silicone eggs and an ovipositor-style toy), so I can get the feeling of having a clutch inside, without the catching of The Preggers.
Problem solved.
[Conclude TMI/NSFW]
Oh man, Brittersweet. I just went down the rabbit hole and watched about 10 of those animal cover videos. I especially liked We Will Rock You and Where Is My Mind?
Does this guy interact with other human beings, ever? His mental age seems about thirteen. Perhaps he’s a product of abstinence-only sex ed and homeschooling. Wow.
Women don’t want sex? That…uh…flies in the face of everything in my experience.
Even if I just look at tonight, let’s see…
I went to a party with my Rocky Horror cast. One woman was bragging about how hard she was nailed after the last party, so good for her. Another two were getting fresh with their boyfriends, and a fourth was wondering if she should go after a guy she knows who she’s found out is into her. Oh, and a fifth one was pining after a woman who couldn’t be at tonight’s party.
There’s also me, who definitely enjoys sex in at least some respects.
On the topic of procreation: Pregnancy is literally the primary argument in my head against magically changing my genitals if I ever get the opportunity.
Why yes. This is me. I am a biological creature. I am also a woman. Fuck off with the rest of your transmisogynistic bullshit.
@PI
…Solidarity, spare the fact that being Not A Legal Adult the resources elude me. (Also, money.)
And the gold medal in the Mental Gymnastics Uneven Bars goes to… this douchenozzle!
It’s amazing the lengths these guys will go to deny reality and blame everyone but themselves for their ‘predicament’. “It’s not that I’m an ignorant jerk, it’s that they’re inferior and don’t actually like sex! The problem isn’t me, it’s you!”
It’s like every time we see a new piece of bullshit from these guys, it’s the same essential message but wrapped up in new paper and ribbons, trying to see if this time it’ll sell. It’s just sad. A part of me can empathize because I went through something similar but from a woman’s perspective – heavy self-hatred, years of no dating or sex, bitterness at media beauty standards that I couldn’t meet, with a big dose of “brain doesn’t want to acknowledge that sexual assault all those years ago so it will fester inside me and influence my feelings on men in general”. That was a dark place, a hard one to get out of. Looking on these guys, I’m so glad there wasn’t an equivalent of the manosphere for me to get lost in back then because that kind of echo chamber looks like the ‘perfect tool’ for keeping someone in an endless circle of hatred helped by the residents frowning on actual self-reflection.
Maybe if these guys not only went their own way from us women but from EACH OTHER, maybe they could break the cycle. Or maybe they’d just lash outward, I don’t know.
So yeah, sometimes I read these posts and get angry, but ones like this, it just makes me sad for them.