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White supremacist allegedly kills two on Portland train; the Daily Stormer “lols”

Jeremy Christian gives a Nazi salute after a recent “Free Speech” rally. From a photo by Doug Brown; click on picture to see source

A white supremacist named Jeremy Christian has been identified as the man who allegedly stabbed three men on a Portland MAX train on Friday, killing two of them.

Witnesses said the killer was shouting racist slurs and harassing several Muslim women on the train and stabbed the men when they tried to intervene. Christian, charged with murder and attempted murder, is now being held without bail.

Even before the killings, Christian was well-known to local activists as a hothead given to threats of violence; he has a criminal record that includes robbery, kidnapping and weapons charges.

He showed up at a recent Portland-area “Free Speech” rally organized by right-wingers draped in an American flag, shouting slurs and carrying a baseball bat, which was thankfully confiscated by police. Not even the rally organizers wanted anything to do with him, and they blocked him from joining their rally.

But none of this has stopped neo-Nazi megablog the Daily Stormer from giving Christian two cheers — and a hearty “lol” — in the wake of the killings. As Daily Stormer publisher Andrew Anglin sees it, Christian was nobly “[c]onfronting the people who are killing [us]” by allegedly harassing the Muslim women on the train.

As for the men who were killed after trying to intervene, Anglin says snidely that

maybe they should have just minded their own business, huh?

The type of person who would white knight for haji women is probably the worst type of person of all.

We are being slaughtered by these people, and it is incredible that this sort of thing doesn’t happen more often.

No time in history have we ever seen any situation like what we have right now: a situation where we are told we have to be kind to and protect an invading army that is slaughtering us on the streets.

I’m not quite sure how women sitting on a train minding their own business are somehow “slaughtering us on the streets,” but Nazi logic doesn’t much resemble the logic the rest of us were taught in school.

I just hope that when he was doing the stabbing he said “THIS IS FOR ARIANA!!!!!!111”

No, I don’t really hope that. But I would lol.

I’m sure he would.

Naturally, many of the Daily Stormer’s commenters are similarly flippant about the murders.

“2 collaborators down and 1 injured, whats not to like,” writes someone called Dax.

“[A]bout the idiot men that “defended” the women, you expected sex retribution?” snorts PugKommander, “but you get a grave retribution. For every white-knight there will be a white trooper.”

Mosin-Nagant compares Christian to racist mass murderer Dylann Roof.

Hmmm…. I like this guy more than Saint Bowlcut. He went all medievel on them and slashed throats. DyRo needs to 1-up this guy and shank more n*ggers in prison lol

cuck_rogers, meanwhile, posts a meme made from Christian’s mugshot, and asks: “When are we getting the charity drive going?”

The alt-right is breeding monsters.

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PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

Overly, yeah, This Handle’s suggestion of the SPLC is a good one…you will find tons of information on there about the Stormer and Stormfront, those types of sites.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

As one of the Mammotheer pagans, it grieves me to hear that Taliesin is dead.

From what I gather of his mother and himself, they’re one of us.

Tov01
Tov01
3 years ago

Is the man who stabbed three men really who they want to hold up as an example of #NotAllNazis? Fucking assholes.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
3 years ago

I suspect It’s some kind of joke along the lines of ”Not all nazis condone violence…but I do!”

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

Rest in peace, heroes. Thank you for your sacrifice.

As for the alleged killer, I imagine there won’t be much peace in his life from now on.

And Andrew Anglin et al. are amused by these blood-curdling events.

I sure as hell hope the FBI is keeping close tabs on the Daily Stormer.

Chiral_Spiral
Chiral_Spiral
3 years ago

We are being slaughtered by these people, and it is incredible that this sort of thing doesn’t happen more often.

I’m reading a book on the Holocaust at the moment, and it’s kind of startling how similar this rhetoric is to the public statements that the classic Nazis back in the day made. “If the Jews keep this up [where “this” is events that 99.99% of Jews have absolutely no involvement in], then you shouldn’t be surprised if something bad happens to them!”

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
3 years ago

Ricky John Best, Taliesin Myrddin Namkai-Meche and Micah David-Cole Fletcher are amazing heroes. I am so sorry for them and their families, and for the poor teenagers who were threatened by the murderer.

I really really hope that all the terrorists and terrorist-sympathisers supporting the piece of scum who murdered and wounded Best, Namkai-Meche and Fletcher are being closely watched by law enforcement and are prevented from committing further crimes. (and as Tosca said upthread: that the perpetrator is prevented from ever, ever threatening or harming anyone ever again, which in this case makes him one of the relatively few people who really should be prevented from mixing with the public ever again).

DanHolme
DanHolme
3 years ago

Desperately sad to hear about Ricky John Best and Taliesin Myrddin Namkai-Meche; very glad to heat that Micah David-Cole Fletcher is getting better. One commentator about him on another site suggested we should ‘make him [Micah] famous’, and I agree; as to the murderer, I’ve tried to forget his name already.

History Nerd
History Nerd
3 years ago

I think The Daily Stormer is just a foil so that alt-right people can point to something that’s more extreme than they are.

Lea
Lea
3 years ago

Chiral_spiral,
That is also how manosphereans talk about women and how the religious right talks about LGBTQ people.

That isn’t a coincidence. There is overlap in all those groups.

numerobis
numerobis
3 years ago

I’m annoyed with the word “alleged”.

The killer allegedly murdered these two people.

There’s no doubt they’re dead, nor is there any doubt he killed them — the only doubt is whether it constitutes murder.

PaganReader - Misandrist Spinster

Journalistic standards (and possibly the law) mean that David has to say “alleged” because it hasn’t been proven in court, even though we all know damn well that he did it.

JS
JS
3 years ago

Yep, theoretically in the US, you are innocent until proven guilty in court, or you plead guilty. So “alleged(ly)” is the correct word, even in cases where guilt is very obvious. This theory of justice may not apply if you’re not a cis white male, or on Fox News.

This was one of the grievances mentioned (indirectly) in the Declaration of Independence.

“For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury”
“For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences”

Dr. Thang
Dr. Thang
3 years ago

Saw this on the front page of imgur today:

http://imgur.com/gallery/oiIWD

kupo
kupo
3 years ago
Some Guy
Some Guy
3 years ago

It IS incredible this sort of thing doesn’t happen more often, what with the massive worldwide terrorist organization that produces people like this (of which The Daily Stormer is a proud participant!) but avoids the “terrorist” label because it’s all white people.

Like, seriously. This was a terrorist attack, people. Nazi or “Alt-Right” ideology is producing lone wolves the same way ISIS’s ideology does it. It’s EXACTLY THE SAME TECHNIQUE: Disseminate a violent ideology to a young, disaffected, vulnerable population and some of them will go out and kill for it.

I think the term is “stochastic terrorism”, and the Stormer and their ilk are at least in the same class as ISIS in this regard. But because they’re pretty much all white people and their post-attack sentiment is “wasn’t us but good thing it happened” rather than claiming credit, no-one seems to care. Oh, and because the ideology doesn’t threaten people in power, can’t forget that.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

Fucking scumbag Paul Elam posted pictures of the two heroes who died and said “Two more good men killed because of chivalry. Let this be a lesson to your sons.”

Goddamned ghoul. Fucking piece of shit.

Wolverine's granddad (formerly Kevin)
Wolverine's granddad (formerly Kevin)
3 years ago

RIP the true heroes who were killed.
Hope the survivor makes a good and swift recovery.
May the perpetrator die of Herod’s evil.

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
3 years ago

Not sure how many Mammotheers watch Michael Rowlands on the ol’ YouTubes, but after Carl “Sargon of Akkad” Benjamin signal boosted for white supremacist 4chan board /pol/ and its quest to identify the Antifa bike-lock attacker by doxxing a guy they claimed was him on sketchy evidence, Rowlands highlighted how inappropriate and straight-up hypocritical it was for an anonymous enclave of internet scum to breach the privacy of another person based on conspiracy theories and unsourced image comparisons, no matter if the cops indeed arrested that individual later.

He was then naturally bombarded with the usual mix of C-words and K-acronyms and other such rational arguments in his comment section, but a recurring theme in one of the comments I left was that this was /pol/ acting to fight the “terrorist group” that was Antifa and their interest in peace and civility is all the justification they need.

Now this guy has become “Based Knife Man” (after “Based Stick Man” became a hero to them)? How is it that the “Remove Kebab” crew don’t experience some kind of whiplash from a reversal like that? I kinda envy that level of un-self-aware surety and confidence… must be interesting going through life without experiencing cognitive dissonance of that magnitude.

Such Alpha
Such Alpha
3 years ago

First time poster so please let me know if I say something inappropriate.

I’ve been thinking about news stories like this and the Charleston church shooting for a while. Something was bothering me and I finally figured out why. Why is the focus of these stories always on the person committing the attack instead of the victims? I understand that in some cases the victims are kept anonymous for one reason or another but it seems wrong, in a way that the person committing the hate crime gets their name and face front and centre. Not sure if I’m making any sense but those are my thoughts about it.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

Well, as more evidence on the fascist/MRA intersection, the incels have woken up to this:

Log in / Register
r/Incels

Two white knight faggots die protecting cunts who will inevitably forget about their “good deed” within one week
u/ILike2EatPoo

Obviously all the other incels (because they’re just misunderstood souls really, remember?) have leapt in to show a little compassion. Nah, only kidding:

PurWhipgrotesque face incel • 0m
good riddance

1
acenosk • 14m
lol dumb white knights got toasted

1
TheEndlessSuffering • 25m
A woman would never put her life on the line for a man who wasn’t her child. Females are cowardly and contemptible creatures.

1
wariscomingsoon • 29m
M’Dead

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

Well, as more evidence on the fascist/MRA intersection, the incels have woken up to this:

Log in / Register
r/Incels

Two white knight f*ggots die protecting cunts who will inevitably forget about their “good deed” within one week
u/ILike2EatPoo

Obviously all the other incels (because they’re just misunderstood souls really, remember?) have leapt in to show a little compassion. Nah, only kidding:

PurWhipgrotesque face incel • 0m
good riddance

1
acenosk • 14m
lol dumb white knights got toasted

1
TheEndlessSuffering • 25m
A woman would never put her life on the line for a man who wasn’t her child. Females are cowardly and contemptible creatures.

1
wariscomingsoon • 29m
M’Dead

(Edited to comply with moderation filter)

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
3 years ago

@Such Alpha: I was thinking the same thing as well. Perhaps it is because there are usually multiple victims and one attacker, and people aren’t good at remembering lots of names.

Maybe it’s because victims are often from some sort of oppressed group. Maybe it’s because the attacker is also often from some sort of oppressed group, and fear sells papers/generates clicks.

I don’t know.

Edited to add: Welcome!

numerobis
numerobis
3 years ago

JS, PaganReader:

The victims are merely alleged to have been killed. But they’re actually for-real stone cold dead.

The allegation is that the asshat committed murder and attempted murder and a criminal level of uttering threats. That’s yet to be proved.

It’s clear he did those things. But just because he did it doesn’t mean he’s guilty; it could be self-defence or insanity or something. Or the government could so badly screw up that he gets off on a technicality (the current scandal in Quebec is that the government is taking so long to try some cases that murderers walk free after multiple years in jail without trial).

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

Few more comments on this from our incel friends.

Lol_BannedAgain

Black Knight

Darwinism, live, for our amusement. Enjoy, brothers.

CheesyFedora Heightcel. Currycel. Dickcel. Total failure.

No they won’t forget. They need to remember so they can keep using their deaths for their own attention and to talk about how they’re the “real victims” here. Stupid fucking worthless whore females should have been the ones to die. Fuck this. Dumbass white knights should never protect females.

rockisdead121

lol normies think they are super heroes

creampiesymphony

I always lol when someone tries to act like an alpha white knight in public to disarm a situation or shame someone. Those kinds of people get what they deserve.

ijustwantsomefriendz

Females deserve the rope

Haha nothing better than a dead white knighting normie

PurWhip grotesque face incel

good riddance. what a stupid fucking thing to die for.

NormiesMustPay

If females are men’s equals they should have to defend themselves, and not ask men to die for them. The white knights got what they deserved.

Now to avoid allegations of cherry picking, I should point out that someone called Afroaway00 did try to be more nuanced. See here. Appears to be a minority opinion though.

Afroaway00

these men would probably do the same for men and kids getting harrassed too. know your place as a fucking subhuman and shut the fuck up about people far more admirable than any of us.

ret**ded_dumbshit

Dumb cunt

existentialhack 31 yo self-made KV Incel suicide case.

these men would probably do the same for men

Pahahha

If they hadn’t intervened no violence would have occurred. It’s very rare that nutters attack women. 80% of murder victims are men and even more so in random street attacks. They’re white knight morons.

NormiesMustPay

Their rotting corpses aren’t superior to anything.

Afroaway00

they died better men than i will ever be and from your dumbass fucking comment i can only surmise that goes double for you.

NormiesMustPay

No. They died being beta pieces of shit.

Afroaway00

in what world is standing up for people getting harrassed by some big racist asswipe beta or a piece of shit thing to do? they did a brave and good thing and sadly gave their lives for it.

NormiesMustPay

Ah yes. Protecting females from mean words. What a brave pair of ret**ds.

(Edited for moderation filter)

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

There’s a blog called Rants of an Incel. It’s quite an achievement in that it manages to be especially nasty even by Incel standards. It’s just picked up on the Portland story. Ironically the coverage is pretty mild compared to the normal fayre.

Honoring heros. White knight nagina’s stabbed dead.

May 30, 2017 rantsofanincel
Lets all rejoice, 3 naginas were stabbed out of self defense in Oregon, two of them are dead because they started a fight trying to defend a woman’s honor. Nagina’s clearly did not know who they were fucking with. I hearby hail Jeremy Joseph Christian, the stabber, a hero.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/26/us/portland-train-stabbing/

The women the naginas were white knighting for did not even stick around to help out, SURPRISE!

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

Another brave young man was killed this weekend by violent, racist thugs this weekend. This one was in WA, not all that far from the Portland, OR attack. http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2017/05/30/25175484/the-morning-news-driver-reportedly-yelled-slurs-before-fatally-running-over-quinault-father-free-speech-battle-brewing-in-portland

(Before anyone comments on the bias of this newspaper, I picked it because it doesn’t have a paywall. Plenty of reputable news sources are reporting on this incident.)

This is heartbreaking.

Amy
Amy
2 years ago

There is no doubt about whether it was murder. What else could it possibly be? Like “not guilty by reason of insanity”? That defense doesn’t even fly anymore, especially with a flagrant hate crime. This The-Daily-Stormer-vile-mutant-demon-of-a-repulsive-rotting-putrid-vermin, Andrew Anglin, has me questioning the wisdom of whatever amendment guarantees freedom of speech and the press for the first time in my life. Anyone who hates another based solely on his/her skin color, religious beliefs, sexual orientation, etc., is dumber than a pine comb.White supremacists’ lives DON’T matter