So the fellas in the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit are trying to figure out why women visit their horrid little subreddit and sometimes even post mean things about them there. A fellow called VanDerVaart has an explanation. Well, two of them:
Yes, that’s right. Some of the women who seem on the surface to despise the whiny misogynistic shits who populate the MGTOW subreddit are actually really into them, or at least really into all the cool shit MGTOWs own because they don’t have to waste their money on, I dunno, buying women lobster dinners in hopes of scoring some sex.
And so these wily resource-hungry ladies are going to try to slime their way into their lives in hopes of … scoring a lobster dinner in return for sex. Or maybe these evil females will just sneak into their apartments to steal their cool-ass gaming chairs or something. Because LL Cool C: ladies love cool chairs.
@ Axe
Is that the troll? Does Ten Bears think freneticferret is claiming to be an actual ferret, when she secretly isn’t? Wait… does that mean Ten Bears is actually ten bears??
Long distance is super hard! That’s why I’m moving to the Arctic. But I’m down south now packing, alone. And not loving it.
(Plus lots of floods.)
Anyone see scildfreja around lately? I haven’t seen them take down an MRA with impossible patience in a while.
@ten bears
Kind of shit to say she a troll when ferret us is her to defend herself. You want to make us feel bad for give advice?!
Hmm. [click link in Ten Bears’ name] Reads:
[nopes the fuck out]
“Squaws”?? For fucking real?
Y’know, internally, I roll my eyes a lot when people say, “I don’t want to live on this planet anymore”, because, well, it’s so cliche, and blah, and c’mon where else are you going to live, anyway?
But some days I almost start to get it.
Well, to be fair, it was originally ‘pussies’. Changed to ‘squaws’ later. Which is odd, since the claim is that nothing’s changed since the original post in 07. Also, the original had the words ‘You got a problem wit dat’, changed later to ‘If you don’t like it’. Good call, fam. The original invitation to violence at a public park in Fuckin Nowhere, Oregon was replaced by saying ‘your kind’ isn’t welcome in Fuckin Nowhere. Cos everyone’s super interested in visiting your hood, homie. So much in one (or technically two) posts
Took a look at the rest of the blog. Noping out with Lindsay…
“squaws?” As in the sexist and racist term for indigenous women? What the fuuuuuck.
ETA: Axecalubur: Wait so Ten bears edited the post to change it from using a sexist term to a sexist AND racist term but why would….You know what? I’m noping out of this one too.
Oh, oh SURE, big improvements there . Thanks for doing the dirty work for me, @Axe
Insert every facepalm gif here.
Yeah, I got out of there pretty fast, too.
I dislike the gloom and doomsday kind of blogs.
So, yeah, I’ve got a problem with that, and got the fuck out.
Ten Bears’ little day in the sun set, already. Too bad.
@dreemr
Entirely my pleasure. I saw pistols at dawn and had to tell y’all about it ?
Also, wanna point out that I’ve learned there’s nothing good can come outta yearning for the ‘good ol days’ in Oregon. Seen as a more or less progressive state nowadays, it… really wasn’t in the not too distant past. Especially with regards to black and, yes, indigenous folk. An Oregonian should really fuckin know better than to throw squaw around
Real textbook stuff trolling today. No imagination.
If all trolls did was to seriously ask for advice with life problems, I don’t think most people would have a problem with trolls.
*eyeroll*
But then, most people aren’t totally selfish and will gladly extend a helping hand, especially when it costs them nothing to do so. And many people will still extend that hand even when it does. And then, there are MGTOWs, who apparently do neither, for anyone.
The trolling everywhere has been kinda subpar. I guess that’s a good thing?
@Axe
Long distance definitely comes with its own challenges. A lot of the time, when he’s really sad, all I wish is that I could give him a big hug or bring him tea or something. A lot of the time it’s little gestures that make a depressed person smile, but those aren’t really feasible from an ocean away.
@Viscaria
Doubtful. I have it on good authority that Internet Bears just want to be loved and accepted by the masses.
White supremacist yells at two Muslim women, ends up stabbing three men who tried to get him to stop. Two died. In Portland.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/27/man-shouting-anti-muslim-slurs-fatally-stabs-two-men-in-us
Once again – do these guys actually know any feminists – or indeed any women?
And I don’t spend much time at all in MGTOW domains, I have David here to do that shitty emotional work for me and then regurgitate it in an amusing format.
Re. squaw – some people are now arguing that etymologically squaw doesn’t have offensive origins at all and is a neutral Algonquin word for woman or young woman. Doesn’t really matter, as I’m not first nation so I don’t really have a dog in that fight and there’s no question that it’s perceived as offensive by some. What I find offensive is that ‘nation of squaws’ is somehow cowardly or weak. I don’t mythologise Native American populations, they were just people with their own flaws and strengths. But one thing you’d have to say about both the men and women – they were tough and resourceful – they had to be. Any nation could do much worse than to be thus described.
@ferret
^This verbatim! Nothing I’d rather be doing most days. Still, she knows this, and I know the same about her. And we tell each other all the time. You don’t hafta be right there to be there, ya know? 🙂
A continent in my case, and i hear ya. But, like, the problem isn’t that there’s no gestures. It’s just a different set of gestures for a different typa relationship. Just gotta figure it out on yall’s own terms, I’m afraid. Good luck *hugs*
Yeah, mostly, but also:
All of the wars were fought through the trafficking, exploitation, usury, manipulation and disposal of serfs for the advancement of the the noble landholding class, which was all-male since property was transferred only to male heirs and women had no title or rank besides “wife”, and to advance the influence of the church and king to exact tithes and taxes, which was also all-male since women were not permitted to the ranks of politics or clergy. Funny how when men controlled everything and made all the rules it wasn’t even remotely a utopia.
Modern men live in a time of unprecedented peace, prosperity and leisure, but the inconvenience of no longer being able to abandon their offspring to scrounge for scraps in the gutter with zero responsibility or consequence (and average monthly child support does not even cover half the expenses of the custodial parent) is somehow the worst thing anyone in human history has suffered evar! And now MGTOWs are teaming up with the amped up lemmings of the alt-right to stage a facist state and ethnic cleansing. Yup yup yup, sounds legit.
We Bare Bears crack me up.
That is all.
Hello again, everyone!
I consider myself MGTOW, in that I don’t have much to do with women. I just wanted to say the following:
1. Yes, not dating really does help you to save money. I don’t make a lot compared to others, but I’ve been able to save up quite a bit, over the last few decades. Not getting married or having kids has also helped in this area. So many guys my age have been financially devastated by divorce and/or child support. You guys seem to think that a few obscure MGTOW blogs and forums are what’s causing all this trouble, but, really, it’s just men seeing what happened to their fathers and uncles and friends and co-workers.
2. When I hit a certain point in my life–from age thirty on, basically–I suddenly started receiving more attention from women. Please note, I’m not saying that I became a ladies’ man or really successful with women or something like that. Just that I started getting more attention. Women (usually single moms, not that there’s anything wrong with that) were looking for a husband candidate/provider guy, and I seemed like an ideal candidate. I’ve never been married, I’m not in debt, I don’t have kids, I’m consistently employed, I’m a law-abiding citizen, etc. Most of my “competition” has prison records, or serious debt, or they’re paying a ton in alimony or child support. Compared to them, I look great.
Were these women looking for true love? Were they looking for resources? I’m not a mind-reader, so I have no idea. I suspect that, as with most people, they were looking for a variety of things. Personally, I don’t blame women for seeking resources any more than I blame men for seeking sex…people are going to act in their own self-interest, and there’s no point in trying to stop that from happening.
Wow you all are really clueless and fit the archetype that MGTOW puts on you, just because you don’t have any power over real men like this, makes me sick and I’m glad this is happening in the world, I for one am a MAN and will dominate when I need to and that gets me real women, sick of these bitches acting like they can run over us trying to bring all of your problems and act like we need to clean up the mess you made, said it once and I’ll say it again, treat hoe like a hoe, a bitch like a bitch, and a woman like a woman. Real shit right there.
@Atom
Atom,
Cool story bro.
Yes, I remember you. I remember that you keep changing your story back and forth from being a sad sack who doesn’t attract enough women to being some sort of lothario who finds it easy to get laid. Now you have loads of single moms sniffing after your wallet.
Sure.
When has anyone ever claimed otherwise?
Good for you?
I’d ask for a citation, but, I mean, you, I, and everyone else on this website already know that any you provide won’t actually confirm that what you’re saying is a widespread phenomenon. Anecdata is great because there’s no way to prove it wrong, eh?
Wait, is this connected to that last statement at all? Men seeing what happened to their fathers and uncles and friends and co-workers are being financially devastated? Or is “this trouble” some hitherto undetermined subject that you left out of your paragraph?
Charitably making a few assumptions that “this trouble” is “men loudly declaring about how they’re going their own way, only to inevitably spend all of their free time haranguing feminist and feminist-adjacent websites”, then I can use anecdata myself; my parents split up when I was 10, I’ve spent the past decade in-and-out of a relatively unhealthy relationship which ended a few months ago, and I’m still pretty interested in not being a misogynistic shithead.
I actually snorted out loud at this. Like, I’m super self-centered and even I’m looking at this and thinking, “how self-centered and self-absorbed can you be?”
Fun thing, if MRAs/MGTOWs/RedPillers/PUAs/ABRACABABRAs were just “seeking sex”, then that would still be questionable but it would at least be less objectionable than what manospherians actually do, which is sexually harass, insult, objectify, dehumanize, assault, rape, kill, and fantasize about doing all of the above to women. Like, the past few posts literally have multiple examples of men literally celebrating the deaths of pre-teen girls because they surely would grow up to be huge sluts who nonetheless would never have slept with the dude in question, so that totally justifies their murder. This is the sort of thing that manospherians believe is good.