While the rest of the Western world grapples with the horror of the Manchester bombing, Reddit’s incels are looking back three years to another terrorist massacre — and lauding the angry young incel who carried it out.
It’s been three years since a disturbed loner named Elliot Rodger murdered six and injured fourteen others in an extended rampage in Isla Vista, California, leaving behind a series of videos and a book-length manifesto detailing his deep hatred of, and equally intense desire for, women. Had he been able to get inside the sorority that was his primary intended target, the carnage would have likely been far worse.
Naturally, many of Reddit’s incels — self-described “involuntary celibates” — have embraced Rodger as an incel hero. In a series of posts in the Incels subreddit today, the regulars are celebrating what they call “Saint Elliot’s Day.”
In one thread with several dozen upvotes titled “Happy Saint Elliot’s day! The third anniversary of the day of retribution!” numerous Reddit incels sing the praises of the man they hail as the “supreme gentleman.”
A Redditor called thebillstone really, really wishes that Rodger had been able to get inside that sorority.
Naturally, some visitors to the subreddit are appalled by the celebration of a murderer:
![DigDugDactylus 27 points 6 hours ago* Do people here seriously support a serial killer? Edit: I thought people exxagerated, so I decided to check. People here need help permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]justendmefamThe only thing left to do is to dog 1 2 7 points 4 hours ago He's wasn't a serial killer first of all and second of all plenty of females admire serial and other killer](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/el5.png?ssl=1)
But in fact not all incels think Rodger was a hero. Some are appalled to see fellow incels lionizing a mass killer — something that, at the very least, makes incels look bad.
![Know_What_Fvck_ThisRacecel: Enemy to All 5 points 8 hours ago Tbh, fuck this faggot, he's the reason we're associated with school shootings. permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]xxxrivenmainxxx 0 points 2 hours ago school shooters are true heros](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/el6.png?ssl=1)
Others look down on Rodger because his body count wasn’t higher, and not enough of his victims were women.
Still others complain that Rodger was simply too good-looking to be a true incel.
The Incels subreddit may be the scariest place on Reddit.
Kat thank you for your searching! Your like my internet detective now ? at least now i know assholes made it not david. He usually makes good picture for his article so i hoped it was this case.
Alan and wwth – Years ago, I saw one of those cheer competitions on tv. The competitors sported more bruises, ankle wraps and knee wraps than women’s gymnastics teams.
NFL cheerleaders are actually more dance teams, but yeah, they’re treated horribly. Young women (according to my former classmates) mainly do it for the exposure and resume experience. Not only do they get paid poorly and spend loads of time rehearsing, they’re relentlessly policed about their appearance – mainly weight.
Re: Orange Julius Caesar’s loose lips – As someone who used to have a BFD* security clearance, I swear to whatever deity who might listen that I now have a twitchy eye tic because of this shit! He could literally be “sinking ships” to complete the famous line. Troomp and his band of merry misfits should never be allowed within an ICBM’s range of state secrets. GRRRR
*Big Fucking Deal, not a military acronym
Oh, dog. I just made the mistake of reading the article Kat linked. I literally cannot see out of my left eye for all the twitching
I AM DYING OF THE IRONY HERE
Hambeast: take a gander at this story from 2014:
https://www.google.com/amp/deadspin.com/how-to-use-a-tampon-and-other-guidelines-for-bills-che-1567047406/
Hambeast: take a look at this story from 2014:
http://deadspin.com/how-to-use-a-tampon-and-other-guidelines-for-bills-che-1567047406
@Valentine
re: orthodox
Orthodox on its own does not mean the same as православный, but when speaking about religion, in this specific case, it is shorthand for Eastern Orthodox Church, which is the form of Christianity practiced in Russia, which is where translation gets православный, as this is how persons in that form of Christianity refer to themselves when using the Russian language, literally “one who glorifies god correctly” or in short “righteous.”
re: ikon
The misuse of the ikon is particularly egregious, because in the picture, right after the photoshopped words “My Twisted World Manifesto” the original text proceeds to say “Love One Another.”
@Valentine
The thanks belong to PeeVee.
Important stuff:
@yzek:
I think you’re taking a very negative reading of everything, seeing it in the worst possible light. I used to do this too; I found that I did it more when I was extremely unhappy. I ended up not only seeing the world through dark-coloured glasses, but actively wishing that everyone else was unhappy too, so that I wouldn’t feel alone. It was horrible and I’m glad I’m not there any more.
Dude, are you okay? Let us know if you need to talk.
Unimportant stuff:
@Ohlmann:
I’m also an amateur boardgame geek; I’m doing this mostly because I enjoy thinking about rules and I want there to be more steampunk in the world.
As such, your nonprofessional opinionated input is welcomed.
@Scolar Viscari:
Those are perhaps a little… too… over the top. Congratulations, I didn’t think it was possible.
I do like the idea of an ex-military cooking robot though.
@Monzach:
That’s awesome. I’d love to use Herr Von Tatzelwurm. (Also, I fondly remember Deadlands.) I’ve got a good mechanical slot for him too.
I suppose православный could also stand for “one who proclaims god’s law” but since the word came about after the Great Schism, I imagine it was more of a reactionary term against the Western Church, which in the opinion of the Eastern Church was worshiping incorrectly.
Or I could just not be lazy and go look up the etymology. 🙂
Ohlmann:
I noticed, after the UCSB massacre three years ago, that Finnish newspapers failed or didn’t attempt to translate “sorority” accurately.
I generally haven’t noticed what cultural references I was missing with US pop culture. However, King of the Hill gave an eerie sense of no sense when I saw it on Finnish TV as teenager.
May I suggest Fritt Vilt.
Was right the first time. Hence the equivalence to orthodox, because православие as a name for the denomination came into usage as an antonym to heterodoxy, so “correct worship” as opposed to “deviating worship” which fits within the more broad definition of “orthodox” that now also gets used in non-religious vernacular.
Valentine’s confusion is because the word orthodox does not get used as a synonym of православие in Russian language.
Is the US government still risking to share intel with US government?
@EJ
I hope he will fill the mechanical role as well as you need him to. 🙂
The New York Times reporter obviously wrote this ambiguously worded sentence in a hurry. Trump’s mother was married only once. But it’s entirely possible that, like her son Donald, she enjoyed gold-plated baubles.
PeeVee – That manual reads like it was written for middle schoolers by an etiquette-obsessed germophobe with poor writing skills. (Don’t consume the conversation? Are conversations are fattening?)
According to this, not only do the Jills seem to have won their suit (for a certain definition of winning) but they haven’t been part of the Bills home games for three years:
https://buffalowdown.com/2017/05/22/buffalo-jills-near-return-buffalo-bills/
I am still so upset by president loose lips* that I’m holding a hot compress on my RIGHT eye (got that wrong before) because I have to take Catbeast to the vet for a checkup in a bit.
I will be medicating heavily after I get home.
*may he step on all of the legos, may his socks always have a sheep’s head bur in them, may he get globs of overdone steak stuck painfully between his teeth that are impossible to remove with floss or toothpick, etc. Seriously, this ignorant ass is going to get someone killed and, depending on who it is, we may never even hear about it.
Don’t know if others agree, but for me the shows that most accurately depict high school were My So Called Life and Freaks & Geeks. With the caveat being that I went to high school before the days of social media and both of those shows took place before social media.
A lot of teen shows and movies from the US are actually just as foreign to many USians too. The dividing lines between jock/nerd/bad kid aren’t as sharp. I was a bit of all three. And not everyone is obsessed with popularity.
Hambeast, when I first saw the Deadspin article, I honestly thought that handbook was satire.
Please take care of yourself and Catbeast. (Your curse [and everyone else’s] has been copied and put away for future reference, so thanks! Only thing I would change is a popcorn hull being stuck, lol. That happened to me one time, and the resulting infection was painful.)
And, yeah. Trump needs to shut his dumb mouth. This bullshit of him one-upping the entire world is putting us all in danger.
Alan, I just did a post on the Incel subredditors talking about the Manchester bombing. Do you want credit in the post for bringing their terrible discussions to my attention?
Please tell me that image wasn’t made in all seriousness. That is disgusting.
Subs like the incels/redpillers are the reason why I don’t post on Reddit. I don’t care if the incels stick to their own little shithole, it still makes me ill that Reddit tolerates them. Some viewpoints, like those of Neo-Nazis – or incels – are too poisonous to be allowed. You can’t police the whole internet, but I don’t have any respect for an organization that allows hate speech rather than saying “not on my turf, start your own forum to wank over murderers.”
@ David F
Hi. Whatever you prefer suits me. I always see comments as a bit of a communal affair anyway. I just riff off the Inspiration I get from other people’s comments. And of course I have you to thank for introducing me to the delightful denizens of incel anyway.
[Mixed feelings about that, like with the person who originally said “Hey Al, this is Tequila”. Can be a source of amusement occasionally but generally just makes you sick.]
🙂
@Lissa: People tell me that there are good parts of reddit, like the D&D rules discussion or the minecraft stuff.
I feel that just because the turd is in the other side of the punch bowl, that still doesn’t mean I would ever want a drink.
“we won’t censor people” starts to sound a whole lot like “we’ll let the loudest, most awful people set the tone of the discussion and run other voices off” to me.
So yeah, totally with you on that.
@IgnoreSandra
Great, so you want to inflict yet another Stephen King/Haruki Murakami on the world. 😀
If you weren’t familiar, those two love to write self-inserts. It’s always either a depressed writer who lives in Maine that experiences Weird Shit with King, or a Japanese dude who somehow inexplicably finds himself enveloped in Weird Shit, which is Murakami’s thing.
So I guess I’m now going to be known as That Girl who Writes about a Depressed, Eccentric Black Girl experiencing Weird Shit.
It’s not the path I would have chosen, actually, but perhaps it’s the path I required. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
weirwood:
Common sense dictates that the stereotype cannot always be true, but why do you suppose it is so prevalently reinforced? Just about every mainstream depiction of US highschool shows it as some kind of hellhole if you are not rich, attractive and ‘popular’. I do often wonder why the people who create these depictions want to portray so many American youth as complete arseholes.