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Reddit Incels celebrate misogynist mass murderer Elliot Rodger on “Saint Elliot’s Day”

“Saint” Elliot Rodger

While the rest of the Western world grapples with the horror of the Manchester bombing, Reddit’s incels are looking back three years to another terrorist massacre — and lauding the angry young incel who carried it out.

It’s been three years since a disturbed loner named Elliot Rodger murdered six and injured fourteen others in an extended rampage in Isla Vista, California, leaving behind a series of videos and a book-length manifesto detailing his deep hatred of, and equally intense desire for, women. Had he been able  to get inside the sorority that was his primary intended target, the carnage would have likely been far worse.

Naturally, many of Reddit’s incels — self-described “involuntary celibates” — have embraced Rodger as an incel hero. In a series of posts in the Incels subreddit today, the regulars are celebrating what they call “Saint Elliot’s Day.”

In one thread with several dozen upvotes titled “Happy Saint Elliot’s day! The third anniversary of the day of retribution!” numerous Reddit incels sing the praises of the man they hail as the “supreme gentleman.”

Wind7788 4 points 5 hours ago May he Rest In Peace. Let us not be sad. Today is a day to celebrate. Today is a day to celebrate.. the retribution.

mcfill 14 points 8 hours ago Good night sweet prince.

EconomicsofSexthe a fucking slug 3 points 4 hours ago He was the only one who ever did something for incels, the only one who ever stood up for us

DOWNVOTESBAMAFLAIRS 13 points 6 hours ago RIP. If only he had been able to take more people with him.

A Redditor called thebillstone really, really wishes that Rodger had been able to get inside that sorority.

Naturally, some visitors to the subreddit are appalled by the celebration of a murderer:

DigDugDactylus 27 points 6 hours ago* Do people here seriously support a serial killer? Edit: I thought people exxagerated, so I decided to check. People here need help permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]justendmefamThe only thing left to do is to dog 1 2 7 points 4 hours ago He's wasn't a serial killer first of all and second of all plenty of females admire serial and other killer

But in fact not all incels think Rodger was a hero. Some are appalled to see fellow incels lionizing a mass killer — something that, at the very least, makes incels look bad.

Know_What_Fvck_ThisRacecel: Enemy to All 5 points 8 hours ago Tbh, fuck this faggot, he's the reason we're associated with school shootings. permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]xxxrivenmainxxx 0 points 2 hours ago school shooters are true heros

Others look down on Rodger because his body count wasn’t higher, and not enough of his victims were women.

Angry_runtCitizen of Incelistan 2 points 5 hours ago As an agent of retribution he was laughably incompetent. He killed three Chinese guys because... what, because they take American jobs?

Still others complain that Rodger was simply too good-looking to be a true incel.

gufestus120 YO Suicidal Virgin 45 points 9 hours ago Fuck off troll. That guy was rich spoiled piece of shit with severe mental problems. He isn't even ugly. He was just spoiled. So fuck him and fuck people who worship this idiotic faggots. His experience couldn't be further away from a genuine incels.

BlumolIt's facebook and not personality-book for a reason. 25 points 9 hours ago Fuck that guy who squandered his wealth and looks. If I had half his wealth or looks I wouldn't be an incel.

The Incels subreddit may be the scariest place on Reddit.

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banned@4chan.org
banned@4chan.org
3 years ago

I’m 40 pounds overweight, and it’s still a struggle not to shit on other fat people.

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
3 years ago

@WWTH

These movies don’t just cater to the straight male boner. They pander to straight male resentment.

Precisely. In the days pre-internet, this was the way guys got to see nude women, but the continued coupling of sexuality to violence always bothered me from the first time I saw Friday the 13th and it’s only gotten worse from there as slasher movie characters have become less and less likeable over time to the point that modern slashers seem to have this need to make all their characters total assholes so that we don’t feel bad watching them die. Just something I’ve observed in the course of my bad movie watching.

The genius of Slumber Party Massacre was taking all those tropes and making complete hay out of them (the killer’s drill bit being cut off was none too subtle).

It’s just so telling that this guy applies the stereotype so casually. When we hear “sorority sister”, we’ve been conditioned to picture Betty Childs from Revenge of the Nerds, and that resentment has been stoked so far that they’re not even granted individual personalities.

Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
3 years ago

Gussie Jives – It’s amazing the things I’ve internalized over the years without thinking about them! The stuck-up sorority girl trope being one of them even though I had two examples that were 180 degrees the opposite when I was in college myself. They were a pair of twins, dance majors, pro-football cheerleaders, talented artists, intelligent, and very sweet to everyone in our class.

I don’t even know if they *were* in a sorority (how would they have the time?) but I was quite surprised that they were so laid-back and genuinely nice. I know this because when I found out that they were NFL cheerleaders, I regaled them with all sort of questions because I was a rabid NFL fan at the time. Alas, cheerleaders and players in the NFL are not allowed to fraternize. 🙁

edited to correct a blockquote error

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

Hi, yzek. It’s been a while since you’ve dropped in.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

cheerleaders and players in the NFL are not allowed to fraternize.

Cheerleaders suffer catastrophic injury rates at three times the rate of professional football players. It’s one of, if not the, most dangerous athletic activities going.

(Thats mainly through those competitions where they make five people high pyramids and the like)

Zatar
Zatar
3 years ago

yzek:

He specifically noted that the women in his school were kind to him. Do try to pay attention. And by the way theirs a difference between “Idealizing” someone and “not hating someone because they won’t have sex with me.”

yzek
yzek
3 years ago

“He specifically noted that the women in his school were kind to him.”

I noticed. I interpret it as “they didn’t hurt me with during short, casual meetings as much as my asshole friends I used to hang out with”; let OP speak his mind about it.

Y.

Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
3 years ago

Cheerleaders suffer catastrophic injury rates at three times the rate of professional football players. It’s one of, if not the, most dangerous athletic activities going.

A dear friend who is an ex-high school and competition cheerleader has a wonderful t-shirt:

“You say cheerleading is not an athletic endeavor…? Do my routine, then get back to me on that.”

AngrySince11/09/2016
AngrySince11/09/2016
3 years ago

The rigidity of toxic masculinity seems to feed off the anger and rage of peers who need to be acknowledged for their viewpoints. Reading the incel comments only illustrates people are desperate for any kind of attention in the 15 second instant gratification age.
These Reddit comments only tend to make me even more skeptical of people IRL. My approachability lessened with the invention of the internet . I liked it better when I could pretend some people aren’t vile.
@Grumpy, Enjoyed your vignette about high school immensely.

My heart aches for the families in Manchester and I hope none of them ever have to see Elliot Rodgers worship or horrid descriptions of girls like their daughters.
I’m terribly horrible at expressing myself but very appreciative of this community.

dr. ej
dr. ej
3 years ago

You say cheerleading is not an athletic endeavor…? Do my routine, then get back to me on that.

When I was in high school, I’d say the same thing about marching band.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ weird eddie

Do my routine, then get back to me on that.

I’m involved in a little fitness enterprise with some ex-SF types. We were introduced to cheerleading when someone sent us info about one of these competitive troups, who were using the Navy SEAL training regime.

(I gather those competitions are taken pretty seriously over there)

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ angry

I’m terribly horrible at expressing myself

I beg to differ.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

modern slashers seem to have this need to make all their characters total assholes so that we don’t feel bad watching them die.

True. Especially when they’re remakes of classic slashers. I do like a lot of the deconstructions of slashers over the past few decades. Like Wes Craven’s New Nightmare, the Scream Franchise, Tucker and Dale vs. Evil, and Cabin in the Woods. I’m not sure if All the Boys Love Mandy Lane counts as a deconstruction but it did put a different spin on the final girl trope that I enjoyed.

Cheerleaders suffer catastrophic injury rates at three times the rate of professional football players. It’s one of, if not the, most dangerous athletic activities going.

I’m not sure how it is where you are, but in the US cheerleading is not considered an official sport in high schools or in the NCAA so it’s not subject to really any safety regulations. I think it comes down to misogyny. There are male cheerleaders, but it’s obviously seen as a girl thing and not to be taken seriously. And the way NFL cheerleaders are treated is a disgrace. They’re barely paid and yet it’s a ton of work.

Funny how anti-feminists are always accusing feminists of being jealous of attractive women. I’ve noticed feminists are overwhelmingly more supportive of cheerleaders, models, and strippers in labor disputes than the general public is.

AngrySince11/09/2016
AngrySince11/09/2016
3 years ago

Thanks @Alan!

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

@yzek

@GrumpyOld SocialJusticeMangina

That’s why I’ll never appear at school reunion: I’d laugh at such insincere confessions like

“there were a lot of girls that would have liked to go out with Gene, but he was so shy you knew he’d never get up the nerve to ask”

You vastly overrate your own psychic powers.

It seems to me that you idealize your female schoolmates. You’ve just told that you used to hang out with guys only and there were terrible to you. It’s much more like if you hang out with girls more, they’d be terrible as well.

Hmm. I hung out with girls a lot in school, and they were never terrible to me.

“He specifically noted that the women in his school were kind to him.”

I noticed. I interpret it as “they didn’t hurt me with during short, casual meetings as much as my asshole friends I used to hang out with”; let OP speak his mind about it.

No one’s stopping OP from speaking his mind.

Also, this is a public forum. Anyone can speak her or his mind. You did.

Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
3 years ago

Although I don’t think it was a very successful satire because it’s pretty indistinguishable from the real deal.

Poe’s Law… The slasher movies tend to be extremely excessive, making satire difficult. The “Scary Movie” series did a pretty good job, tho.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

@Angry

I’m terribly horrible at expressing myself.

Seconding Alan. No way!

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
3 years ago

An amusing side effect is that thoses slashers are utterly impossible to understand for at least some europeans, because of how codified they are.

There isn’t a prom date. The role of bully, jock, and other aren’t formalized like they seem to be in America. Sorority, cheerleading and college sport team litteraly don’t exist, and sport is a 2-hour chore every week. That have made slasher film extremely confusing for young me.

(it’s not helped by the fact that college, in France, is like 12-16, so for a long time I wondered if american were mentally challenged or if they were forbidden from using child actors)

Monzach
Monzach
3 years ago

@EJ

If you want to use him in your game, I’d be honored to see my old Deadlands character August von Tatzelwurm get a new lease in life. Basically, he’s a weird steampunk-style scientist and inventor originally from the mountains between Austria and Bavaria who has drifted to the Weird West in search of ghost rock and adventure (you can of course drop all the “weird” stuff if it doesn’t work in your game). He’s an older aristocratic gentleman who has some trouble with ze Enklish but he more than makes up for the language barrier by being gregarious and interested in nearly anything scientific. He’s most proud invention, and the thing that inspired his journey across the Atlantic, is the “Donauerwalzer”, a coal-powered lightning gun which is powered by a rucksack-mounted generator. I have a lot of fun memories of playing the character so if you want to have some more details about his backstory, don’t hesitate to ask. 🙂

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

@Ohlmann

College, in France, is like 12-16, so for a long time I wondered if american were mentally challenged or if they were forbidden from using child actors.

Snort.

My Sunday school lessons were long on stories, short on context.

The “children of Israel” seemed to be so impulsive that I would catch myself thinking they were actually children.

Take, for example, the story of Moses. He’s gone for only 40 days. He’s talking to God! Cool your jets, people. But no — they build a golden calf(!) and then they worship it. WTF.

Yeah, now I have a greater understanding of the perilousness of those times and the fact that bulls were widely worshiped in the Middle East.

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
3 years ago

@Ohlmann

As a Canadian, I can relate to that confusion in spades. My high school never had cheerleaders, football was just a sport some of the sporty people did, and my university’s focus pretty much boiled down to research. That said, as I was wandering the St. George Campus of the University of Toronto, I did see a frat house or two on St. George or Harbord Streets, but they were the same run-down old Edwardian houses as the buildings next to them, hardly the Alpha Beta house.

As a result, I never quite figured out the American obsession with fraternity and sorority life. Perhaps because I was in a professional faculty I didn’t see that side, but it struck me that the “old boys” clubs that exist in places like Harvard and Yale just didn’t have an equivalent up here, at least not at U of T.

(Ironically, the original Black Christmas was filmed at an all-girls dorm–Annesley Hall–just up the road from where I was in residence at Rowell Jackman Hall my first year. It’s a residence operated by Victoria University, not a sorority house.)

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

OT . . . but Trump did it again

The Pentagon Can’t Believe Trump Told Another President About Nuclear Subs Near North Korea

“We never talk about subs!” three defense officials told BuzzFeed News after a transcript of a call between President Trump and Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte was published.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/nancyyoussef/the-pentagon-is-facepalming-hard-over-trumps-disclosure-of?utm_term=.wonoV9w88#.tgg4PryAA

Lea
Lea
3 years ago

My kids are forbidden from two sports: cheerleading and football. This isn’t because of my feminist leanings or because of my father’s ruined knees, but because the kids’ dad has worked with too many people with severe, life changing head injuries and he won’t allow the kids to take those risks.

Cheering is a very dangerous sport.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@PresidentTrump

Congratulations to our brave submariners for making it all the way to 40.3399° N, 127.5101° E without being detected!

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

I think it’s pretty well established that tbe source of most leaks from the WH is Trump, himself.

Valentine
Valentine
3 years ago

Kat thank you for your searching! Your like my internet detective now 😂 at least now i know assholes made it not david. He usually makes good picture for his article so i hoped it was this case.

Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
3 years ago

Alan and wwth – Years ago, I saw one of those cheer competitions on tv. The competitors sported more bruises, ankle wraps and knee wraps than women’s gymnastics teams.

NFL cheerleaders are actually more dance teams, but yeah, they’re treated horribly. Young women (according to my former classmates) mainly do it for the exposure and resume experience. Not only do they get paid poorly and spend loads of time rehearsing, they’re relentlessly policed about their appearance – mainly weight.

Re: Orange Julius Caesar’s loose lips – As someone who used to have a BFD* security clearance, I swear to whatever deity who might listen that I now have a twitchy eye tic because of this shit! He could literally be “sinking ships” to complete the famous line. Troomp and his band of merry misfits should never be allowed within an ICBM’s range of state secrets. GRRRR

*Big Fucking Deal, not a military acronym

Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
3 years ago

Oh, dog. I just made the mistake of reading the article Kat linked. I literally cannot see out of my left eye for all the twitching

During the same call, Trump also called the North Korea leader a “madman with nuclear weapons”

I AM DYING OF THE IRONY HERE

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago
dashapants
dashapants
3 years ago

@Valentine

re: orthodox

Orthodox on its own does not mean the same as православный, but when speaking about religion, in this specific case, it is shorthand for Eastern Orthodox Church, which is the form of Christianity practiced in Russia, which is where translation gets православный, as this is how persons in that form of Christianity refer to themselves when using the Russian language, literally “one who glorifies god correctly” or in short “righteous.”

re: ikon

The misuse of the ikon is particularly egregious, because in the picture, right after the photoshopped words “My Twisted World Manifesto” the original text proceeds to say “Love One Another.”

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

@Valentine

Kat thank you for your searching! Your like my internet detective now 😂 at least now i know assholes made it not david. He usually makes good picture for his article so i hoped it was this case.

The thanks belong to PeeVee.

EJ (Scheming Liberal Race-Traitor)
EJ (Scheming Liberal Race-Traitor)
3 years ago

Important stuff:

@yzek:
I think you’re taking a very negative reading of everything, seeing it in the worst possible light. I used to do this too; I found that I did it more when I was extremely unhappy. I ended up not only seeing the world through dark-coloured glasses, but actively wishing that everyone else was unhappy too, so that I wouldn’t feel alone. It was horrible and I’m glad I’m not there any more.

Dude, are you okay? Let us know if you need to talk.

Unimportant stuff:

@Ohlmann:
I’m also an amateur boardgame geek; I’m doing this mostly because I enjoy thinking about rules and I want there to be more steampunk in the world.

As such, your nonprofessional opinionated input is welcomed.

@Scolar Viscari:
Those are perhaps a little… too… over the top. Congratulations, I didn’t think it was possible.

I do like the idea of an ex-military cooking robot though.

@Monzach:
That’s awesome. I’d love to use Herr Von Tatzelwurm. (Also, I fondly remember Deadlands.) I’ve got a good mechanical slot for him too.

dashapants
dashapants
3 years ago

I suppose православный could also stand for “one who proclaims god’s law” but since the word came about after the Great Schism, I imagine it was more of a reactionary term against the Western Church, which in the opinion of the Eastern Church was worshiping incorrectly.

Or I could just not be lazy and go look up the etymology. 🙂

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
3 years ago

Ohlmann:

I noticed, after the UCSB massacre three years ago, that Finnish newspapers failed or didn’t attempt to translate “sorority” accurately.

I generally haven’t noticed what cultural references I was missing with US pop culture. However, King of the Hill gave an eerie sense of no sense when I saw it on Finnish TV as teenager.

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
3 years ago

modern slashers seem to have this need to make all their characters total assholes so that we don’t feel bad watching them die.

May I suggest Fritt Vilt.

dashapants
dashapants
3 years ago

Was right the first time. Hence the equivalence to orthodox, because православие as a name for the denomination came into usage as an antonym to heterodoxy, so “correct worship” as opposed to “deviating worship” which fits within the more broad definition of “orthodox” that now also gets used in non-religious vernacular.

Valentine’s confusion is because the word orthodox does not get used as a synonym of православие in Russian language.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
3 years ago

Is the US government still risking to share intel with US government?

Monzach
Monzach
3 years ago

@EJ

I hope he will fill the mechanical role as well as you need him to. 🙂

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

Mr. Trump is the scion of a real estate developer and a thrice-married lover of all things gilded.

The New York Times reporter obviously wrote this ambiguously worded sentence in a hurry. Trump’s mother was married only once. But it’s entirely possible that, like her son Donald, she enjoyed gold-plated baubles.

Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
3 years ago

PeeVee – That manual reads like it was written for middle schoolers by an etiquette-obsessed germophobe with poor writing skills. (Don’t consume the conversation? Are conversations are fattening?)

According to this, not only do the Jills seem to have won their suit (for a certain definition of winning) but they haven’t been part of the Bills home games for three years:

https://buffalowdown.com/2017/05/22/buffalo-jills-near-return-buffalo-bills/

I am still so upset by president loose lips* that I’m holding a hot compress on my RIGHT eye (got that wrong before) because I have to take Catbeast to the vet for a checkup in a bit.

I will be medicating heavily after I get home.

*may he step on all of the legos, may his socks always have a sheep’s head bur in them, may he get globs of overdone steak stuck painfully between his teeth that are impossible to remove with floss or toothpick, etc. Seriously, this ignorant ass is going to get someone killed and, depending on who it is, we may never even hear about it.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Don’t know if others agree, but for me the shows that most accurately depict high school were My So Called Life and Freaks & Geeks. With the caveat being that I went to high school before the days of social media and both of those shows took place before social media.

A lot of teen shows and movies from the US are actually just as foreign to many USians too. The dividing lines between jock/nerd/bad kid aren’t as sharp. I was a bit of all three. And not everyone is obsessed with popularity.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

Hambeast, when I first saw the Deadspin article, I honestly thought that handbook was satire.

Please take care of yourself and Catbeast. (Your curse [and everyone else’s] has been copied and put away for future reference, so thanks! Only thing I would change is a popcorn hull being stuck, lol. That happened to me one time, and the resulting infection was painful.)

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

And, yeah. Trump needs to shut his dumb mouth. This bullshit of him one-upping the entire world is putting us all in danger.

Lissa
Lissa
3 years ago

Please tell me that image wasn’t made in all seriousness. That is disgusting.

Subs like the incels/redpillers are the reason why I don’t post on Reddit. I don’t care if the incels stick to their own little shithole, it still makes me ill that Reddit tolerates them. Some viewpoints, like those of Neo-Nazis – or incels – are too poisonous to be allowed. You can’t police the whole internet, but I don’t have any respect for an organization that allows hate speech rather than saying “not on my turf, start your own forum to wank over murderers.”

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ David F

Hi. Whatever you prefer suits me. I always see comments as a bit of a communal affair anyway. I just riff off the Inspiration I get from other people’s comments. And of course I have you to thank for introducing me to the delightful denizens of incel anyway.

[Mixed feelings about that, like with the person who originally said “Hey Al, this is Tequila”. Can be a source of amusement occasionally but generally just makes you sick.]

🙂

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
3 years ago

@Lissa: People tell me that there are good parts of reddit, like the D&D rules discussion or the minecraft stuff.

I feel that just because the turd is in the other side of the punch bowl, that still doesn’t mean I would ever want a drink.

“we won’t censor people” starts to sound a whole lot like “we’ll let the loudest, most awful people set the tone of the discussion and run other voices off” to me.

So yeah, totally with you on that.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

@IgnoreSandra

Self-inserts…are tacky but acceptable…

Great, so you want to inflict yet another Stephen King/Haruki Murakami on the world. 😀

If you weren’t familiar, those two love to write self-inserts. It’s always either a depressed writer who lives in Maine that experiences Weird Shit with King, or a Japanese dude who somehow inexplicably finds himself enveloped in Weird Shit, which is Murakami’s thing.

So I guess I’m now going to be known as That Girl who Writes about a Depressed, Eccentric Black Girl experiencing Weird Shit.

It’s not the path I would have chosen, actually, but perhaps it’s the path I required. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ellesar
Ellesar
3 years ago

weirwood:

A lot of teen shows and movies from the US are actually just as foreign to many USians too. The dividing lines between jock/nerd/bad kid aren’t as sharp. I was a bit of all three. And not everyone is obsessed with popularity

Common sense dictates that the stereotype cannot always be true, but why do you suppose it is so prevalently reinforced? Just about every mainstream depiction of US highschool shows it as some kind of hellhole if you are not rich, attractive and ‘popular’. I do often wonder why the people who create these depictions want to portray so many American youth as complete arseholes.