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Reddit Incels celebrate misogynist mass murderer Elliot Rodger on “Saint Elliot’s Day”

“Saint” Elliot Rodger

While the rest of the Western world grapples with the horror of the Manchester bombing, Reddit’s incels are looking back three years to another terrorist massacre — and lauding the angry young incel who carried it out.

It’s been three years since a disturbed loner named Elliot Rodger murdered six and injured fourteen others in an extended rampage in Isla Vista, California, leaving behind a series of videos and a book-length manifesto detailing his deep hatred of, and equally intense desire for, women. Had he been able  to get inside the sorority that was his primary intended target, the carnage would have likely been far worse.

Naturally, many of Reddit’s incels — self-described “involuntary celibates” — have embraced Rodger as an incel hero. In a series of posts in the Incels subreddit today, the regulars are celebrating what they call “Saint Elliot’s Day.”

In one thread with several dozen upvotes titled “Happy Saint Elliot’s day! The third anniversary of the day of retribution!” numerous Reddit incels sing the praises of the man they hail as the “supreme gentleman.”

Wind7788 4 points 5 hours ago May he Rest In Peace. Let us not be sad. Today is a day to celebrate. Today is a day to celebrate.. the retribution.

mcfill 14 points 8 hours ago Good night sweet prince.

EconomicsofSexthe a fucking slug 3 points 4 hours ago He was the only one who ever did something for incels, the only one who ever stood up for us

DOWNVOTESBAMAFLAIRS 13 points 6 hours ago RIP. If only he had been able to take more people with him.

A Redditor called thebillstone really, really wishes that Rodger had been able to get inside that sorority.

Naturally, some visitors to the subreddit are appalled by the celebration of a murderer:

DigDugDactylus 27 points 6 hours ago* Do people here seriously support a serial killer? Edit: I thought people exxagerated, so I decided to check. People here need help permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]justendmefamThe only thing left to do is to dog 1 2 7 points 4 hours ago He's wasn't a serial killer first of all and second of all plenty of females admire serial and other killer

But in fact not all incels think Rodger was a hero. Some are appalled to see fellow incels lionizing a mass killer — something that, at the very least, makes incels look bad.

Know_What_Fvck_ThisRacecel: Enemy to All 5 points 8 hours ago Tbh, fuck this faggot, he's the reason we're associated with school shootings. permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]xxxrivenmainxxx 0 points 2 hours ago school shooters are true heros

Others look down on Rodger because his body count wasn’t higher, and not enough of his victims were women.

Angry_runtCitizen of Incelistan 2 points 5 hours ago As an agent of retribution he was laughably incompetent. He killed three Chinese guys because... what, because they take American jobs?

Still others complain that Rodger was simply too good-looking to be a true incel.

gufestus120 YO Suicidal Virgin 45 points 9 hours ago Fuck off troll. That guy was rich spoiled piece of shit with severe mental problems. He isn't even ugly. He was just spoiled. So fuck him and fuck people who worship this idiotic faggots. His experience couldn't be further away from a genuine incels.

BlumolIt's facebook and not personality-book for a reason. 25 points 9 hours ago Fuck that guy who squandered his wealth and looks. If I had half his wealth or looks I wouldn't be an incel.

The Incels subreddit may be the scariest place on Reddit.

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Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

Incels:

“buwhaaaa women don’t like us because we don’t have perfectly developed pecs”

also incels:

“people who kill women are fucking awesome”

The cognitive dissonance going on here is amazing. And, as other people have already pointed out, they aren’t involuntarily celibate – they are voluntarily celibate because they fucking hate women and wish them dead and believe in rampant bullshit like ‘the friend zone.’

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

While the rest of the Western world grapples with the horror of the Manchester bombing, Reddit’s incels are looking back

Oh they are covering the Manchester attack in at least two threads. After all, the deaths of all those ‘future Staceys’ isn’t something you get to celebrate everyday. Someone did suggest that perhaps murdering children might be bad even if they were Staceys. But his (ex?*) incel brethren soon called out his ‘white knighting’ ass. After all, what’s the suffering of bereaved families and seriously injured children compared to the pain of being incel?

(*now that he’s outed himself as a ‘normie’ he’s obviously ‘fakece’l)

Iseult The Idle
Iseult The Idle
3 years ago

So, fuck these guys who are “involuntarily” celibate because the only acceptable woman is a slim young beauty.

Screw these involuntary celibates who’d rather huddle together and cry about how no one likes them, than put in some introspection and work and figure out how to be more approachable.

Fuck these people who wish violence and evil and death on others because waaaahhh, they’re not popular and don’t get to sit with the popular kids at lunch. Do they think they’re the only ones who have ever been shunned? Holy shit at the lack of perspective.

Get some therapy, people. Seriously, there are resources out there if you go looking for them. Talk to someone in real life, and really, really, really get out of the Reddit echo chamber. It’s a crab pot. It’s holding you back.

Bina
3 years ago

These asswipes should be called not “incels”, but DEScels, because they DESERVE to be celibate against their wishes. Anyone who’d idolize a Ted Bundy or an Elliot Rodger is someone who should never be within a mile of any woman EVER.

Nequam
Nequam
3 years ago

@Iseult: No, don’t fuck them. In fact, continue not fucking them.

Unless by “fuck them” you mean “introduce their earhole to the joys of intercourse with rusty rebar.”

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I hope the FBI and equivalent agencies in other countries are monitoring incel sites. If they’re not, they really should be.

Bina
3 years ago

I’m honestly surprised they’re not wanking harder over Marc Lépine right now, too.

I’m guessing that that’s because his former name was Gamil Gharbi.

Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
If any of them are it certainly must be difficult when Resident Jackass Dampnut and the rest of the GOP slashed their “Investigate white local terrorists” budget.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

@Bina,

They probably will, come December 6th.

Ugh. Just reading their rageporn nauseates me.

N.E.C.
N.E.C.
3 years ago

The Incel subreddit is a terrorist forum. The people who post there talk about Rodger’s massacre exactly the same way that ISIS followers talk about Manchester in their spaces. Is Reddit not aware of this?

Dan Kasteray
Dan Kasteray
3 years ago

Ah Reddit, the number one way to share mediocre cat memes and child porn. These wastes of oxygen fit right in

Joel
Joel
3 years ago

@Francesca Torpedo Elliot Rodgers called himself a supremely wonderful gentleman and then gave graphic details of what he would do to women.

AsAboveSoBelow, Male Gaze Harvester
AsAboveSoBelow, Male Gaze Harvester
3 years ago

The Bundy comment made me roll my eyes so hard, I’m pretty sure I pulled a muscle. Kimberly Leach was a real stuck-up yuppie at age twelve, I’m sure. Jesus Christ.

I’d think these dipshits would hate Bundy, since he was decent-looking and very successful, as it’s called, with women. He was a master manipulator who fooled almost everyone into thinking he was a nice, normal man, until the evidence couldn’t be denied.

Bina
3 years ago

@Peevee:

(smacking forehead) OF COURSE! I forgot. That would be the province of Paulie and his Voice for Hateful Men, not these guys.

They do all sound so terribly alike, though.

Victoria
Victoria
3 years ago

I think it’s worth mentioning that therapy can he expensive if you can’t afford insurance or simply don’t have the right insurance. Their problem isn’t their lack of social skills, their “approachability” or anything associated with disabled or mentally ill folk, it’s their misogyny.

Plenty of them look “normal”, talk “normal” and act “normal”. They’re just so entitled they get angry at women for not being interested. It’s male rage amplified to eleven.

Look, I’m autistic and went through a period of being very afraid that I would end up all alone in the world. And I think that fear was justified, given that autistic people consistently have less social connections and the societal benefits that come from that than neurotypicals. But as sad and afraid as I was and sometimes am, I don’t feel like I’m entitled to others. I don’t feel rage at the idea of another person existing for their own agency.

Guys, I beg of you, stop making autism dog whistles about every misogynist on the internet. The vast majority of sexists and misogynists are neurotypical men who are embraced by the community around them.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

@Victoria

They’re just so entitled they get angry at women for not being interested.

They then get angry at women for being interested yet not fitting their extremely specific and weird criteria for their prospective partners.

Haise, the husky puppy
Haise, the husky puppy
3 years ago

@wwth

Agreed. There are red flags everywhere. But.. what if some of those working at the FBI or other agencies are incels themselves? (Probably not, I know, since most of them tend to be in the late teens – early twenties but still..)

Valentine
Valentine
3 years ago

This is Православный ikon they defaced! Fucking assholes.

Steampunked
Steampunked
3 years ago

I suppose some of them could be at the FBI, though realistically, male government employees are going to be interacting with women, minorities, other forms of person, every day. Just sheer exposure is going to be problematic for them, I imagine. People can certainly hold a bunch of wacko beliefs – they show up in some of our staff surveys – but I’ve only sensed outright aggression from a couple of people.

I’m in a Federal organisation with an unusually skewed gender ratio towards male and while there’s some subtle idiocy, even here you need to be able to interact with women. For that matter, you need to be able to interact with women in the military who may hold quite high ranks.

Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@AsAboveSoBelow, Male Gaze Harvester
As long as you’re white you too can squat on federal property, have an armed insurrection AND STILL get more peaceful tactics and get off with mild charges. The only good thing that came of this is that thanks to the arrests it scared off any copycats by shattering their beliefs that nothing bad would happen to them in any shape or form if any of them pull a stunt like what the Bundy’s did.
@Victoria
Nthing this ’til the end of time.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

@Steampunked

For that matter, you need to be able to interact with women in the military who may hold quite high ranks.

This is my fetish.

Although you may have gathered that already from my character.

Still Fiqah
Still Fiqah
3 years ago

Ted Bundy “disciplined” his victims? That’s an appropriate response to women who don’t wanna fuck you, for whatever reason?

I can’t. Sweet Baby Jeebus. Remember when a guy who couldn’t get a woman he liked to reciprocate just wrote a song about how he wished he could hoop and be a little bit taller?

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

@Still

I remember when you would go on a revenge-seeking quest, initiated by the ghost of your dead father that may or may not have actually appeared to you while you were high and drunk and suffering from lack of sleep.

Why doesn’t anyone do that anymore? We have truly progressed too far, as a species.

Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@Still Fiqah
If you believe that the worst thing a woman can do is say “no”, anything and every terrible thing is on the table.

Gr8Dane
Gr8Dane
3 years ago

The way these “men” talk with glee imagining if Elliot had gotten into the sorority house. Daydreaming about how the parents of slain sorority girls would have felt. Could you imagine how these “men” would treat a daughter. I used to naively think that if a misogynistic man had a daughter that he would somehow wake up and see the error of his ways. In some instances this does occur, but quite often they just end up having a very convenient female victim at home to abuse at will. If they have a son they end up teaching him how to hate women.

The only reassuring thought I can come up with is that they are celibate (hopefully forever) and therefore (fingers crossed) will not reproduce.

Still Fiqah
Still Fiqah
3 years ago

@Ooglyboggles

There’s so much wrong with some of these incel posters that I don’t even know where to begin. I DO know that sex won’t help any of it.

Still Fiqah
Still Fiqah
3 years ago

@Francesca Torpedo

Saddest LOL.

Iseult The Idle
Iseult The Idle
3 years ago

I’m not “dog whistling” about anything. I’m not implying or even thinking that most celibates are on the autism spectrum. I’m saying, if they’re socially awkward for non-medical reasons, therapy or even just talking to someone objective in 3-D real life meat space could be a great start on being able to behave normally around other people, even women.

Misogyny doesn’t start up in a vacuum. Yes, it’s ridiculous to blame women for the fact that you don’t know how to talk to women; but that’s the spiral some of these guys have been twirling down for a while. It started in middle school and they’ve never broken out of it.

Sure, I’m sure some of them are just hateful. I’m not willing to say that’s true for all of them.

Victoria
Victoria
3 years ago

But you have no idea if they’re socially awkward. you just assumed that because “lol misogynists on the internet are all fat, have poor hygiene and are socially awkward because there’s no way an ideal manly man could be misogynistic”

Look I’m not trying to argue in bad faith, but it seriously hurts me as an autistic person when you act like every bad person on the internet must have social issues, struggle with hygiene or talk/walk “weird”. it’s a genuinely hurtful thing.

Victoria
Victoria
3 years ago

And it’s entirely unnecessary to speculate about their social skills in the first place. it’s like talking about their penis size. you have no way of knowing and if they did have that issue that isn’t whats wrong with them.

Also the line between “medical” and “non medical” reasons for having issues with social skills is very blurry and you aren’t at any authority to decide whos genuinely is disabled or not.

AsAboveSoBelow, Male Gaze Harvester
AsAboveSoBelow, Male Gaze Harvester
3 years ago

@Ooglyboggles: I was talking about Ted Bundy the serial killer, not Cliven Bundy and his squatter buddies. 🙂

Edited to add: Of course, there’s also Al Bundy. comment image

Victoria
Victoria
3 years ago

When people make fun of the way I walk or mock the way I talk or I lose a job because I can’t look an employer in the eye, they don’t care if it’s “medical” or non medical reason. that’s why it’s bad to stigmatized things like poor social skills and weird ways of talking.

Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@AsAboveSoBelow, Male Gaze Harvester
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/icarly/images/3/3e/Azumanga-Daioh-anime-7008876-1024-768.jpg
Yeah by the time the timer ran out I realized too late. Sorry mate I really got to stop thinking that my bugbear is the assumed bugbear.

EDIT: Oh Married With Children, you were a gem in showing how a terrible person gets their comeuppance in so many gratifying ways.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

@Oogly

I, too, often think everyone is concerned about what I am worried about, only to realize too late that it wasn’t.

Now, if this were a Kafka novel, you’d respond ‘No, actually, that wasn’t what I was taking about. At all.”. And I would be further removed from feeling any connection with my fellow human beings, or, even, feeling, or being capable of recognizing anything as being real.

How did I get here?

Who are you people? What are you doing to me?

IgnoreSandra
IgnoreSandra
3 years ago

Incels: “Women won’t let me fuck them!”

Also Incels: “Lemme describe in graphic detail how I want to murder all women! In fact, let’s literally celebrate the death of any and all women no matter the circumstances!”

Jesus. This is fucking awful. Let’s just go full Medusa or something, fucking hell.

I really have no spoons today. None at all. Not for this, or after those poor girls in Manchester, or…anything. Just fuck. Fuck.

Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

@Sandra

Here, you can have my spoons.

It’s the last few I had, but I don’t care anymore. None of this matters.

I just want you to feel better.

IgnoreSandra
IgnoreSandra
3 years ago

@Francesca

Thanks, but I can’t take those. I have a long day tomorrow, but I’ve built some systems into it that’ll help me to get by. Like cheese sticks. Those help a lot. I want you to get by and all.

I want you to feel better too.

Tosca, Chaos made Flesh
Tosca, Chaos made Flesh
3 years ago

There’s clearly something wrong with the way “incel’s” minds work, but it’s both incorrect and ableist to refer to them as “mentally ill”. I suggest we go with “mentally unfit”.

If someone can’t climb a flight of stairs because they use a wheelchair or have severe lung disease, that is not their fault. They don’t deserve to be censured or mocked for something that is absolutely out of their control.

If someone can’t climb a flight of stairs because they never exercise and are spectacularly unfit, it’s still not nice to mock or censure them. But you can point out that their own lifestyle choices have caused the problem, and suggest ways they can improve it.

If someone from the latter category insists stairs are an evil plot by fit people against them, posts endless screeds insisting they should be fit without doing any exercise, suggests that fit people should be killed for not allowing them to climb stairs and celebrates those who do kill fit people…that person is an arsehole. But it’s still not physical illness that’s preventing them from climbing those stairs.

Some people have mental illnesses such as major depression, schizophrenia, OCD etc. Their illnesses give them a tough time and they deserve help and compassion. Some people have life circumstances which impact on their ability to function. They deserve understanding and nudging in the right direction but they are not mentally ill. Some people have severely fucked up world views and revel in them, even going so far as to carry out mass murder or celebrate mass murderers. These people deserve scorn and revulsion but they are still not mentally ill.

Victoria
Victoria
3 years ago

But you can’t tell if someone has a physical disability by looking at them. someone can have trouble getting up stairs due to multitudes of invisible disabilities, and if you criticize someone’s “lifestyle” without actually knowing them, it’s just foolish and harmful to other people with invisible disabilities as they also get accused of being lazy and “probably like those others stair haters and totally unfit for society”.

Criticize the fact that they want to hurt people. criticize their misogyny. But don’t speculate about traits you don’t know they have and are mainly exhibited by marginalized people.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

AsAboveSoBelow,

I can see why incels would love Ted Bundy, actually. He killed women who looked like his ex who dumped him. The young girl was his final victim and done out of desperation when he was on the run and unraveling and couldn’t take the time to troll for his preferred victim type. I’m sure they all fantasize about killing women who resemble one who rejected them at some point. Fucking assholes.

Also, for those who don’t know, Ted Bundy was a Republican party activist at one point. Shocking, I know.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

@Sandra

Thank you. I still offer you at least one spoon, if you would like it, as a token of my appreciation to you. It isn’t critically important to anything and you are at liberty to refuse it without any stress on my part; I would merely like to help.

@Oogly-senpai

The impossibly beautiful young heroine found that these strange people were now piping music at her in loud intervals, in response to her distressed cries for help, or, at least, if they could not help, to at least explain this perplexing absurdity that she had somehow found herself enveloped within, with not even the slightest chance of escape making itself possible.

Victoria
Victoria
3 years ago

When you have a disability that isn’t immediately visible and obvious to the unobservant naked eye, most people will assume that you just have a “lifestyle” problem or a character flaw. When I walk slowly in public, people don’t think “oh, she’s autistic and thus can’t help the pace she walks at” they think “look at this slow jerk, I bet she just wants to inconvenience me and wasn’t taught right by her mom, what an asshole”

IgnoreSandra
IgnoreSandra
3 years ago

@Francesca
I accept this single spoon, and offer in return a single spoon. Thanks <3

Damn them all. Every last one of them.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

But you can’t tell if someone has a physical disability by looking at them. someone can have trouble getting up stairs due to multitudes of invisible disabilities, and if you criticize someone’s “lifestyle” without actually knowing them, it’s just foolish and harmful to other people with invisible disabilities as they also get accused of being lazy and “probably like those others stair haters and totally unfit for society”.

My brother is obese and gets winded going up the stairs. He also walks constantly. He goes on multiple walks a day. It’s not uncommon for someone I know to say “hey, I saw WeirwoodTreeBrother out walking the day.” He also goes to the gym a couple times a week and works out with a personal trainer. So he gets a lot of exercise and is definitely not lazy. Still obese though.

I know Tosca’s comment didn’t mention obesity, but let’s face it, thin people don’t have their fitness policed like fat people do. I’ve never seen a thin person get judged for taking the elevator instead of the stairs.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

Shrug. I still think incels are assholes.

Victoria
Victoria
3 years ago

Heck, even my partner, who uses a wheelchair, has been lectured by people who thought he wasn’t doing enough. that’s why I’m so “overly sensitive” when it comes to how disabled and mentally ill people are subtly scapegoated for societies ills.

Victoria
Victoria
3 years ago

I think incels are assholes too. I think they’re assholes because of their misogyny and hate. not because how i perceive their social skills/hygeine/appearance to be.

@wwth yeah, same thing goes with obesity. And don’t let me go on about how often people assume unlikable personalities online must be fat.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

@WWTH
@Victoria

Okay, so, like, I used to be obese as a small child, and the experiences I had were totally awful.

You might think I learned from it, but, nah. Instead of recognizing that people were assholes and that there is no discernable reason why we should all be elegant, thin, svelte, super-athletic Pinnacles of Human Ability…

…I adopted their asshole attitudes, internalized their dislike of fat people, and became athletic and powerful and beautiful, studied martial arts, won awards for my accomplishments on my local swim team.

In short, I became an asshole and I realize that now. I may have caused myself a lot of harm and harm to others by idiotically conforming to the standard.

To this day I wish I’d never adopted this dumb standard and I feel terrible.

In all actuality, there is no need for us all to be perfectly slim and athletic.

Like in the case of WWTH’s brother, it’s like, holy fuck, excuse YOU, theoretical onlooker, for caring so fucking much about how much weight he has; we didn’t know he was actually being considered as the next fucking ISS Astronaut and the fate of entire developed nations rested upon whether or not he was a trifle plump, apparently!

dreemr
dreemr
3 years ago

@Victoria – you are very much reading into Iseult’s post a lot of things they never mentioned nor implied. I realize the topic is very personal for you, but please take a step back and consider what Iseult is saying. They recommended only that incel’s stop congregating together to amplify their aggressive misogyny together and perhaps seek out someone to talk to or therapy.

Nothing was said about disability. Nothing about hygiene. Nothing about ASD. Nothing at all. Nothing implied.

Since those are hot-button issues for you I am sure you are extra-sensitive to them when they’re brought up; in this instance, I honestly don’t think they were.

@Tosca – again, no one is saying or implying that incels are mentally ill. No one said they are suffering from a diagnosis of any sort.

Of course that doesn’t preclude reminders on the topic. I only mention it in light of @Victoria’s concerns.

I agree with @Iseult. I think these young men make their situation worse for themselves by seeking out amplification and reinforcement of their misogyny with each other, and they would be well served to take a step out of that environment and seek out someone to talk to in real life that might be able to steer them in a less self-defeating direction.

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