If you still have energy after this rather exhausting week in Trump news, here’s an open thread for you! No trolls or Trump fans.
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Leaving on a jet plane: Another Trump open thread because holy crap what a week
@Paradoxical Intention – Leader of the Deathclaw Damsels
Got to keep up the idea that the US is the ONE TRUE IMPERIAL NATIONtm. Plus you and I both know the reaction for them is going to be “This isn’t 11th dimensional chess, this is Graham’s Chess.”
@PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
Kind of hoping he does due to the fact that his handlers let their guard down for one second.
@numerobis
In short same thing the US has been doing with Saudi for decades.
@Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer
Re: Richard Spencer
That woman was only employing her free speech.
He should not have one tiny problem with that.
So hey, would Team Trump flying Air Force One be snakes on a plane?
(I am so sorry.)
I wonder how many times AF1’s pilot thought “I have had it with these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane!”
Sorry for impugning snakes? Cause snakes are pretty awesome.
Alec Baldwin, Kate McKinnon, Scarlett Johansson and More Sing “Hallelujah” as Trump’s Team in ‘SNL’ Finale Cold Open
http://cdn4.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/scale_crop_768_433/2017/05/snl.jpg
My boyfriend and I are too broke to get cable. But I do watch SNL bits on Youtube. Looking forward to watching it later tonight.
SNL helps me keep my equilibrium in the face of Trump and his staff — may they enjoy instant karma very, very soon, Katie willing.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/alec-baldwin-kate-mckinnon-scarlett-johansson-more-sing-hallelujah-as-trumps-team-snl-finale-cold-op-1005886
Kat,
One of the most emotional things I think I’ve ever seen on SNL was Kate McKinnon as Hillary Clinton doing “Hallelujah” right after the election.
I don’t know if you’ve seen that clip, but it actually brought tears to my eyes.
By Donald Trump’s standards, the Watergate cover-up was a thing of genius
Walter Shapiro
Say what you will about the dark inner recesses of Richard Nixon’s soul, but, in light of Donald Trump, it is easy to feel nostalgic for the 1970s
True that. Not because he was a liberal, but because he knew he had to respond to the will of the people. And that’s why the Vietnam conflict finally ended. Nixon admitted as much in his autobiography.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/18/donald-trump-watergate-genius-richard-nixon#img-1
@PeeVee
I saw it. I wept.
I don’t usually weep about politics these days because I try to stay strong — but sometimes a girl’s gotta cry.
My plan is to save most of my tears for the day Trump leaves the White House in handcuffs and shackles.
Kat, I think everyone who saw that cold open cried. Mine were tears of both anger and such profound sadness…they chose the perfect song for McKinnon’s last performance as Hillary.
I’ll probably throw out my back doing a happy dance when Grabby McBlabby gets led away, but I don’t care. It’ll be worth it!
@PeeVee
Yeah, tears and dancing.
And naturally, I’d settle for Trump resigning in order to “spend more time with his family.”
@Dalilama
Spencer is basically a complete loser and failure at life. He dropped out of grad school even though his parents were paying for all his tuition and living expenses. His parents are apparently “normal” Republicans who dislike his fascist ideology, but it hasn’t been enough for them to cut him off financially (yet).
‘(the whole idea of reading requiring great effort is a strange one to me, and is similar to someone telling me they have to think about how the breathe)’
I used to be one of those people who ‘read a lot’, but I’ve noticed over the past few years that reading is becoming more and more physically difficult for me. Initially reading glasses helped me focus and make out the blurred letters, so I wasn’t working so hard just to parse the writing, but even this assistance is losing its effectiveness, and I’m now starting to associate reading with headaches, exhaustion and unpleasant feelings–which is a problem both with respect to my favourite leisure activity and to my PhD research. At least I’m aware of it, and realise it’s largely to do with vision and concentration impairments–but it wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of people who consider reading an effort have undiagnosed or unacknowledged vision, processing or concentration barriers, which may or may not be able to be resolved by some kind of assistance (which they may or may not be able to afford).
Re pronouncing places–I designed some road and bridge improvements years ago in a place called St Helena, California, a tiny and twee Napa town where the people are as conceited as you can imagine. I pronounced it St Helena like the Napoleon island, but was once corrected by a local–‘no no, we pronounce it St HelEEna here; if you say it the other way people will think you’re a tourist.’ Before my self-editor could stop me I replied ‘God knows I wouldn’t want anyone to think I actually LIVED here.’
If anybody wants a laugh and/or a new face-shaped dent in their desk, this is apparently a real quote from one of Trump’s dopey-ass flunkies:
Even putting aside the borderline-unintelligible grammar (I presume it was shortened to fit into the tweet), we’ve still got:
– “Nixon was innocent!”
– “Watergate was a liberal conspiracy!”
– “Trump is innocent!”
– “Trump-Russia is a liberal conspiracy!”
– “Trump won the popular vote!”
– “DA JOOOZ! DA JOOOOOZ!”
… In only nineteen words. That might be a new wharrgarbl density record. I’m almost impressed.
Hah! Your non-self-edited speech might be onto something there.
nparker:
Why on Earth do you expect English to be logical? BTW, before the 19th century it was frequently spelled without the ‘e’.
As for the ‘poshness’ or otherwise: I grew up in a working class family. Mum was from rural Sussex, dad from Staffs. Both used the ‘scon’ pronunciation, and disparaged the long-o form as snooty.
PI:
Yes, that was hilarious! He looks like he needs a stiff drink – which won’t happen in that room!
https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/DAUCAD2UwAADp1A.mp4
Re: words
Dear Sirs
I wish to object to the characterisation of the British using idiosyncratic pronunciation.
Yours
Menzies Cholmondley-Featherstonehaugh
Is that Lieutenant Menzies Cholmondley-Featherstonehaugh, of Fowey?
No, I’m the gaoler from Belvoir.
@ Moggie
I don’t necessarily expect it to be logical as such, but it should at least make sense. In the 19th century and before we didn’t abide by the same standard ways of doing these things like we do today. This isn’t the 19th century, this is now.
That’s exactly what I don’t get: basically that is exactly what is wrong. I’m not snooty or posh or whatever, I’m simply a person who pronounces it in a certain way that everyone around me does. That’s kind of the problem I’m referring to. I joke about it being silly to not pronounce it the way it is spelt, but it isn’t the same as people announcing that pronouncing it how it is spelt is for people who are lower than oneself because they are ‘posh.’ That seems to engender less humour and more indignancy
Months back, I was sitting down outside and there was this family sitting there eating, some had scones. One of the children pronounced it with ‘cone,’ and his father literally shouted at him ‘its (c-on)!’
The boy protested at the aggression and continued calling it what he wished to and the father was yelling and yelling at him that he was wrong. I’m glad that was a one off, but it made me wonder about people who dismiss the ‘cone’ version as posh really. It seems to engender more spite than humour.
There’s only one mispronunciation that really bugs me: My grandma calls dinosaurs “Dinna-saurs.” ARGH. It makes every palaeontologist bone in my body scream, and by this point, I swear she does it on purpose. x_o;;
@Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
I can imagine how you feel! I do happen to like Mr. DNA’s pronunciation though.
‘Dynnnna-saaaars!’
SFHC: I hope you don’t meet too many french paleontologists. Because that’s how I’d expect them to pronounce it, given that it’s the french pronunciation.
The one that bugs me is “idea” pronounced “ide-ee”. It’s just “idée” pronounced in english! But it’s almost universal. I’m not up on the science of why that particular event happens.
History Nerd,
What is it with these people who are so convinced of the superiority of men and/or the white race and it always turning out that they live off other people. Paul Elam, Mike Cernovich, Roosh and now Richard Spencer?
I’d love a reality show about a bunch of privileged right wing types who think they’ve earned all their privileges and anyone who gets help from the government is a weak moocher. Have them go an island with nothing. Let them try to survive on their own for 6 months or so. The rest of us can watch them try to hunt seagulls and avoid hyperthermia. It would be called Galt’s Gulch, of course.
Hell, I’d even settle for a show about them trying to make it in a new city without access to their assets or communication and help from friends and family. Let them try to a find a decent job and housing with no help from anyone. See what it’s like to actually have to bootstrap it.
SFHC, the original quote comes from Roger Stone, who is most definitely not only a Trump sycophant, but a Nixon one, as well…he’s got a tattoo of Nixon on his back, ffs. Ew.
WWTH: And film it…that’d be the best reality show EVER.