In the wake of the horrific murder of YouTuber Heather “Ivy” Anable, apparently at the hands of Aleksandr Kolpakov, one of her fellow cohosts of the Skeptic Feminist Youtube channel, some of YouTube’s most noxious personalities got together for a nearly two-and-a-half hour livestream dealing with the tragedy.
The livestreamers in question included the noxious Sargon of Akkad — I’ve written about him several times before — alongside lesser-known YouTube shitheads called Vee and Kraut and Tea, among others.
Despite the ostensible subject, the livestream turned out to be a rather lighthearted affair, full of jokes at the expense of the murdered woman and lots of what the participants called “gallows humor.” (There were similar outbursts of inappropriate mirth from antifeminists on Twitter and elsewhere online, as I detailed in a post yesterday.)
YouTuber Michael Rowlands has done us all a service by clipping some of the worst moments from the livestream and putting them in a thankfully much, much shorter video of his own. It’s only 8 minutes long, and you can skip the first minute or so, but I think it manages to capture the odiousness of Sargon and pals quite effectively.
Just a note of explanation: Rowlands’ video is designed to highlight the blatant hypocrisy of YouTuber Kraut and Tea. The first half consists of a clip from a Kraut and Tea video patting anti-SJW YouTubers on the back for their alleged moral superiority over SJWs. The second half is a clip from the notorious livestream, which pretty clearly shows what complete bullshit his claims of moral superiority really are.
I set the start of the video a little ahead to bypass some of Kraut and Tea’s more tedious bloviating and get right to his main point.
https://youtu.be/E-93X8sVI_E?t=1m28s
Thanks to commenter IshinDenshin for letting me know about this video. If you want to watch the whole livestream (ugh) you can find it here.
WWTH:
Humina.
That is all.
@ fran
That’s where I learned most of my history; before Horrible Histories came along (the HH books are actually very accurate though).
If you like quirky English stuff you may enjoy Nigel Molesworth, if you haven’t encountered him already. The books are very funny.
@Alan and Fran
You may find this amusing/interesting: On the UK caving forum, someone has posted about a major Yorkshire landmark being used in a Bollywood horror series.
Everyone’s favourite Tolkeinesque scramble, Gordale Scar, in ‘1920: London’, a sort of Hindi Evil Dead: https://youtu.be/PdrTQmsxzpU
I watched ‘1920 – Evil Returns’ on YouTube, and do you know, I quite liked it. But not everyone’s a horror fan, so it might not be your cup of tea.
But Gordale Scar is an awesome spot.
@NickNameNick
In the 1980s it was often said Finland was the “Japan of Europe” because both countries made a spectacular economic rise after being set back by WWII.
In the early 1990s, a depression hit hard first on Finland and then Japan shortly afterwards. Some wise cracker then referred to Japan as “Finland of Asia”.
@Alan
Britannia waive the rules?
@IP
What would one do with that Patreon money?
@ Dan
I empathise with the chap who fell down it in that video. I’ve mentioned before about climbing up and getting stuck so I had to walk the long way back to the car (four frikkin’ miles!).
Be more honest to say “Impossible climb down”.
http://i.imgur.com/luU9VuN.jpg
@ Alan
A four mile walk through limestone pavement sounds really good to me right now.
I read a great, quirky YA book the other day called ‘Tiger, Tiger’ by Melvin Burgess. In it, the area you were walking through has been turned into a huge reserve for the world’s last few tigers. There’s a plot by criminals to harvest the tigers for their organs, and one of the tigers turns into a human and hunts down the conspirators with the help of the son of a pub landlord from Malham. ‘Were-tigers of the Craven Karst’ could be the subtitle. One of the weirdest Dales novels I’ve ever read, and highly recommended.
@ Dan
Try doing it in Winter, in Converse.
I wonder if anyone has ever managed a walk on the moors without ending up reeling off quotes from “American Werewolf in London”?
@Alan
Been there, done that. January 2005, I walked the length of Hadrian’s Wall in my trainers, with no accommodation, in the snow, because I was too tight to pay the bus fare. I slept in the phone box outside Lanercost Priory the first night, somewhere on the wall the next two nights, and didn’t bother sleeping at all the last night. Good times, and one of my toes has nearly recovered!
…and if you tell that to the young people today, they won’t believe you!
@ Dan
I love that the Vindolanda letters have legionaries asking their mums to send extra socks and underpants. So you’re not the first person to freeze their ass off on that wall.
I also like that there’s a Latin word for underpants (‘subligaria’ in case you were wondering).
@Alan
I didn’t have to go as far as flogging myself with nettles for warmth, like the legionaries (reportedly) did. Not while I was on the wall, anyway. 😉
If I ever write a comedy fantasy novel, ‘Subligaria’ will be the name of a small nation in which several of the protagonists go on holiday.
Walked along (I can’t remember how much of) Hadrian’s Wall once when I was a kid, with a little group of siblings and friends (we had tents, though) to the tune of that old marching song
“one kilometre on foot, it wears out, it wears out –
one kilometre on foot, it we-ears out your shoes.
two kilometres on foot ….”
(for all our francophone Mammotheers 🙂 )
Yeah, we thought we were so funny.
@Opposablethumbs
I’ve not heard that one before, but as marching songs go it was certainly accurate. My shoes held on a bit longer than my feet, but finally gave up when I fell down a small cliff at Cheddar Gorge. I was fine but the shoes broke their stitching – I literally popped my clogs!
I should make it clear I didn’t walk to Cheddar from Hadrian’s Wall; this wasn’t some variant on the British geography in ‘Robin Hood – Prince of Thieves’, where all the more recognisable landmarks are stacked right next to each other.
I was watching a documentary and they mentioned these mysterious Roman dodecahedron artifacts. Since this was a slightly older documentary, i googled to see if there was any more information.
There was an idea!
I like how someone printed off a 3D model and just played with it.
Damn, even I ain’t safe from falling into the myth! Fair cop!
@ rhuu
Wow, that was interesting. And I do find that suggestion plausible. They remind me a bit of that thing we did at school where you’d stick nails in a cotton reel to knit stuff. And we know the Romans wore wooly gloves; there’s an interesting ‘curse letter’ from the Bath find, calling down misfortune on someone who nicked the writer’s gloves.
I’d be very interested in what our resident handicraft experts think of the theory.
@Arctice Ape
Spend it on high-end recording equipment. Then, once a month, ramble into a webcam for a few minutes and publish the result as a “backers’ update”.
@DanHolme, I’d learned it in French lessons (iirc) – in French it actually scans and rhymes; we thought we were being the height of hilarity because word-for-word in English it does neither. Pretentious, moi ? :-s
@opposable thumbs
Languages were certainly not my strong suit at school, so I’m impressed that your younger self understood it well enough to know why you were being funny, however funny it actually was.
I haven’t taught much Roman history this year, but the one Roman invention that every student goes away remembering is the sponge on a stick…
@ Dan
It’s just clicked with me that, in the gospels, the Roman soldiers give Jesus wine (described as like vinegar) on a sponge on a stick. I’d previously assumed that was just so they could reach him up on the cross. But maybe there’s more to it. Hmm, wonder if anyone’s commented on this possibly before?
A very cursory Google search doesn’t bring up an references to suggestions it was a toilet stick. What’s interesting it that the purported sponge is treasured as a relic. Can’t help but think they might have actually found a toilet stick and not realised it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Sponge
@Alan
Interesting idea! A glance at a few Xtian websites – some more reasonable than others – suggest the point of the sour wine itself was a form of mockery, in keeping with other aspects of the crucifixion. So the idea that the sponge was actually befouled in another way, would be in keeping with the tradition.
Me and my curiousity…I watched part of the full video but then rage-quit after a while. That was ~10 minutes of my life I’ll NEVER get back 🙁
My heart goes out to Ivy’s family and friends.
I can’t believe that anyone would fucking JOKE about this!
@DanHolme
That seems like rather a stretch to me, honestly. Water mixed with vinegar or wine (usually not good wine, because you want to actually enjoy that stuff) is better than straight water for moistening your mouth when it’s dry; or at any rate makes it feel better. Lemon juice or the like works fine too, but hasn’t always been as easily available. It had never once occurred to me that there was any greater significance than that to the scene described.
@ dalillama
We were taught in junior school that it was all part of the Romans being horrible; and that’s general Catholic mythology.
But when we did the RE A level, and it got a bit more nuanced, there were more theories. One is that it was in fact a mixture of analgesics, so they were being a bit nice. There’s also apparently a type of wine, that was very popular with soldiers, that is a bit vinegary. Now I’m trying to remember the name!