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Men’s Rights Hero of the Day: The dude suing a woman for $17 for texting during a date

Not all dates go perfectly

UPDATE: The lawsuit has been dropped! Details at the end of the post. 

A brave hero in Austin Texas has taken his fight against the evils of misandry to the courts, filing a suit against a woman who skipped out on a date with him after he criticized what he saw as her excessive texting.

He is asking for S17.31 in damages, the cost of a ticket to a showing of the 3-D version of Guardians of the Galaxy 2: Galactic Boogaloo, or whatever it’s called, I don’t have time for fact checking.

Let’s go to KVUE.com to hear his side of the story:

Brandon Vezmar met the Round Rock woman on Bumble, a dating app. They went on a first date to a movie theater to see “Guardians of the Galaxy.” During the movie, Vezmar claims that she opened her phone between 10 and 20 times to read and send text messages.

This, Vezmar claims, is in “direct violation of the theater’s police” and adversely affected “the viewing experience of Plaintiff and others.”

“I said ‘listen, your texting is driving me a little nuts’ and she said ‘I can’t not text my friend.’ I said ‘maybe you can take it outside to the lobby, I’ve seen people get kicked out movies for this,” Vezmar explained.

The woman took his advice and left the theater, but did not come back.

According to Vezmer, he is less interested in getting his 17 bucks back than he is in the “principle” at stake here, “as Defendant’s behavior is a threat to civilized society.” He thinks her behavior represented some sort of civilization-threatening abdication of “personal responsibility.”

Needless to say, the woman’s version of events is a little different. She told KVUE she deserted her date because he was creeping her the hell out. And he still is.

I did have a very brief date with Brandon, that I chose to end prematurely. His behavior made me extremely uncomfortable, and I felt I needed to remove myself from the situation for my own safety. He has escalated the situation far past what any mentally healthy person would. I feel sorry that I hurt his feelings badly enough that he felt he needed to commit so much time and effort into seeking revenge. I hope one day he can move past this and find peace in his life.

Somehow I don’t think that will ever happen. Especially since this may be Vezmer’s last date for a very long time.

Check out the video on KVUE.com to see the literally neckbearded (not that there’s anything wrong with that) Vezmer explain his crusade in a little more detail. The odds that he’s a Redditor seem extremely high.

UPDATE: Check out this interview, where he explains how he’s fighting for men who are being “exploited” by women on dates. The article makes even more clear what a creepy stalker he is.

UPDATE 2: The lawsuit has been dropped! She basically paid him off so he’d leave her alone. Here’s the AV Club on how this all shook out:

We’re saved everyone: By Inside Edition, of all things. Apparently as sick of this story as the rest of us, IE set up a meeting between Vezmar and his date, so that she could give him the $17.31 back. In return, she asked for him to please god, “just leave this alone.” Vezmar carefully counted out all the money, and agreed to drop his lawsuit. We’d like to say that this will be the last we hear of this, but we would undoubtedly be wrong.

H/T — @RemingtonWild  and @ami_angelwings on Twitter

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magnesium
magnesium
4 years ago

His Twitter feed is full of him calling her a “floozy” and accusing her of “playing the victim”. He’s a dangerous scumbag and he’s abusing the court system to stalk and harass a woman for rejecting him and its disgusting that journalists are helping him do it.

It’s also terrifying that now you can’t even escape a dangerous man without worrying that he’ll cost you hundreds to thousands in legal fees.

Ooglyboggles
4 years ago

He’s suing someone and abusing powers over people while also masquerading it as a noble cause. Dude, that’s Ego. That’s the bad guy of the movie you are suing over.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
4 years ago

I hope like hell he not only loses his fucking frivilous lawsuit, but has to pay her court costs, as well.

ETA: Jesus tapdancing Christ!! This guy is 37 years old!!

He is the EPITOME of a manchild!!!

IgnoreSandra
IgnoreSandra
4 years ago

@Magnesium

It’s also terrifying that now you can’t even escape a dangerous man without worrying that he’ll cost you hundreds to thousands in legal fees.

It’s equally disgusting that people like this, who are clearly abusing the laws to harass and harm others, won’t be thrown into jail for their clear contempt of the court system due to this obvious nuisance suit.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
4 years ago

(KVUE’s just not the same since Uncle Fred retired.)

I hope the judge laughs in his face.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

The creepiest part is that he tracked down people with similar last names on social media in an effort to find her address.

I wouldn’t be surprised if she didn’t even text 10 or 20 times during the movie. She probably had it set up with a friend to fake a crisis to get out of the date and had a very brief exchange. That’s a classic dating move.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
4 years ago

http://heavy.com/news/2017/05/brandon-vezmar-austin-man-sues-date-guardians-galaxy-texting/

Honest to God, this is so fucking unsavory, it’s not funny. This is the exact opposite of a cutsey human interest story.

This fucker is going to actively bring harm to this woman because he wants his goddamned 16 minutes of ‘net fame.

I am revolted.

Fabe
Fabe
4 years ago

Yeah OK, texting during motive is poor etiquette if she was in fact texting but this guys taking things too far. It is not threat to civilized society

IgnoreSandra
IgnoreSandra
4 years ago

@WWTH

That’s a classic dating move.

I never go on dates, or to a study group, or anywhere else where there’s people and I need an excuse to leave without doing something like it.

@Fabe

It is not threat to civilized society

Don’t care even if it was a threat to “civilized society” and “poor etiquette” can go stuff itself. There’s about a thousand reasons she could have been texting, and any of them are valid. Plus she has a right to get away from people she doesn’t want to be with, and she clearly doesn’t want to be with him.

dashapants
dashapants
4 years ago

I do so loathe people who text during dinner or movies or whatever. On the other hand, dude’s an obvious creep.

I do know a person who would love to take a cattle prod to people who litter or set off alarms by using the emergency exit in the metro when a turnstile is just two extra meters away, but he’s never actually punched or sued any of these inconsiderate strangers, and will agree (if pressed hard) that this would be disproportionate response.

So, yes, I don’t care how screwed up your date is, unless he’s molesting you in the theater, you should not be texting (and if he is molesting you, then you should be leaving and calling the cops, not texting). That being said, this dude is a vindictive creeper and an example of worse behavior than texting at the movies.

dreemr
dreemr
4 years ago

I went to see GotG last Friday at a late afternoon show. I enjoyed it!

A mom with a young infant had brought her 2 other young children (about 4 and 6 years old) to see the movie. When the infant began to fuss, she took her/him outside the theater. Her other two children, for whatever reasons, proceeded to repeatedly go in and out the door of the theater, probably to see what their mom was doing.

It was kind of annoying, but it was an afternoon showing and I expect children to be at those; besides, I’m a mom and I know kids have to learn how to behave in public by actually being out in public. It went on for a little while, probably no more than 10 minutes or so, then stopped.

Yet, not once did I consider seeking damages against the family.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Texting during a movie is rude. There’s a reason theaters have a rule about not getting your phone out during a movie. The fact that people can’t ever seem to restrain themselves from disrupting the movie by lighting up the dark theater with their damn phones is one of the reasons why I generally prefer to wait until I can stream a movie at home. People being rude assholes is why I so often avoid the public altogether, actually.

But it’s kind of beside the point as the appropriate punishment for texting during a movie is being kicked out of the theater and the appropriate response to having a bad date is to just not go out with that person again. Stalking and a frivolous lawsuit is not remotely the proper reaction.

dreemr
dreemr
4 years ago

Why text in a darkened movie theater and remain seated next to this creep?

I, too, think texting during a movie is poor form (most theaters ask you to turn your phone off) as it is pretty distracting.

Although I doubt this woman was actually texting like mad during the movie. This man doesn’t have much credibility with me. Still, in the event of a poor date, the thing to do would be to get up and leave and text or call a friend or taxi to come get you. There really isn’t any need to do it right next to the guy.

I wasn’t there so I don’t know this woman’s exact situation, but unless he was holding her there by force, no reason not to just excuse yourself to the lobby/bathroom (or just up and leave).

Faerie Bard
Faerie Bard
4 years ago

THEATER POLICE!!! WHOOT WHOO! THEATER POLICE!!! *siren*

The fact that he is being all stalky and creepy with her over less than $20 and what amounted to a bad date lends credibility to her side of the story. Even if it turns out she was just being rude, he’s taking it way too far.

And will our “hero” Brandon take “personal responsibility” if she gets doxxed or threatened if the story goes viral? Because, if anything is uncivilized, it is the harassment anonymous assholes on the internet can bring forth.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I typically only go to R rated horror movies in the theater so the chance of kids being there is slim. I’m not opposed to kids being out in public or anything, but unfortunately way too many parents make no effort at all to get their kids to behave. The tropical fish area at the MN zoo has an underground section where you can see the water through a giant pane of glass. There are signs all over the place saying not to hit the glass as it causes the fish discomfort. Every time I’ve ever been there, there are kids hitting the glass and the parents doing nothing to stop it. It makes me so ragey. I save myself the aggravation and keep my attendance at places/events where stranger’s kids will be to a minimum!

luigi
4 years ago

There is zero doubt he got his “…threat to civilized society” notion from his people on Reddit. They could even cook up a crappy little curriculum with subjects like “the scientific method”, “men built all of civilisation”, “women are a threat to civilized society”, “women are parasites who contribute nothing”, “the vote should be taken away with women returning to accepting male guidance”,”women are hypergamous”, “all women are sluts or too fat and ugly to be”, “women cause men to commit suicide”, “women are incapable of rational thought” and much more from the dreary and sickening MGTOW canon.

And these guys often come across as really creepy to their dates if they manage to get one.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
4 years ago

@Luigi

, “men built all of civilisation”,

White, European men, never forget.

These are the kinds of assholes who barge into threads and go, “What did AFRICA do for us, anyway? They were living in mud huts and chucking spears while we wrote stuff down and built castles…etc etc…egyptians weren’t really black…blah blah…”

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
4 years ago

This plaintiff lives in Austin, Texas, which is about 160 miles from Houston, where Paul Elam, noted woman hater, lives.

Coincidence?

Maybe not.

The 10 Most Embarrassing Houstonians

http://www.houstonpress.com/news/the-10-most-embarrassing-houstonians-7681068

Elam is number 10 on this list. And Tila Tequila made it onto the list too!

Thanks, David, for bringing this list to Mammotheers’ attention some time ago.

Viscaria the Cheese Hog
Viscaria the Cheese Hog
4 years ago

The most interesting (“interesting”) part of this to me is that he is suing for the price of her ticket. IANAL, but as I understand it, you can’t sue someone for a gift freely given, no matter what they do with it. You can bake me a beautiful cake and give it to me, and I can immediately throw it on the GROUND because I ain’t a part of your system, and I won’t owe you anything because you gave it to me out of the goodness of your heart.

Now, if we have an agreement wherein you bake me a cake and I tell you knock-knock jokes and I don’t hold up my end of the bargain, then you are entitled to something. So I guess my question is this: What does this man think his $17 entitled him to? What contract does he think they entered into? I have some guesses.

IgnoreSandra
IgnoreSandra
4 years ago

@Viscaria

What does this man think his $17 entitled him to? What contract does he think they entered into? I have some guesses.

And why does he think he’s entitled to anything without a direct, plain-spoken, verbal or written contract between himself and someone else? Or did he not talk to her about what he was “buying” because making a contract for that is rightly illegal?

Every second you spend looking at this, her version of events – that he was a fucking creep and she escaped from him – sounds more and more likely.

Viscaria the Cheese Hog
Viscaria the Cheese Hog
4 years ago

I guess it’s possible that he’s suing for the cost of his own ticket, since she ruined his experience or whatever by not following his manly will. Still an obvious attempt to harrass a woman using the legal system, but a different scenario than the one I had considered.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
4 years ago

Whatever one feels about phones in a theater, (and I don’t like them, either, FTR) this overreaction is fucking stupid.

I don’t have a good feeling about this, given the lengths he’s already gone through to find her and his repeated use of the term “floozy” to describe her on his Twitter account.

I hope like fuck she does not get doxxed.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
4 years ago

Another day in the movie house
Marvelin’ at human stupidity
But I’m not about to simply grouse
About a flashin’ screen I see

You’re soon removed, and that’s the end
In what should be worst scenario
But then this guy…well, he began
To erode what I know

*rubs at temples*

Z&T
Z&T
4 years ago

Maybe she can remain somewhat anonymous if she has an attorney represent her in court. For this. Will that even happen? I know and deal with enough of lawyers but they are biz and tax types.

I have no idea how such a “suit” here would work. Would it go to like a (US) “Small Claims Court”?

I’m guessing.

If so what I would do is to have an atty. represent me, ask for all personal info to be redacted from media (for privacy)*, and then I’d want to be done with it.

And then have the atty. volunteer to give the guy his $17 – in pennies.

* Because he caused all this and dragged her name in the public sphere – he should not only pay her legal costs (I’m thinking around $5K) – he should also pay for one of those – services – that “clean up” all your net info and “protect your privacy” and all that. I’m not sure how all that works. I will guess that probably would cost another $5K.

So $10,000 – $17 = $9,983 that he needs to pay her.

Exact costs should be priced accordingly, just some rough guesses on my part. He should also be charged for wasting the court’s time.

Jennifer
Jennifer
4 years ago

Speaking as an attorney (albeit in another state) this is definitely a small claims case and also absolutely a frivilous case that I would expect to be dismissed because there is no valid cause of action. It is not a contract and there is no tort for being an annoying date.

However, it is extremely rare for legal fees to be awardedin small claims actions and lawsuits are generally a matter of public record so anyone can look up her identity (I almost explained how and then realized I don’t want to help). There is no real privacy in the civil legal system (except for divorces and family matters) so he has effectively already compromised her safety and well being and will likely cost her money for legal counsel so she can have the matter properly dismissed.

This is a text book example of using the law for domestic abuse. In fact, I will be including it in future trainings I provide on the subject.

PaganReader - Misandrist Spinster

Small claims courts have a max amount that can be awarded. I think it’s $3000-5000, depending on the state. Of course, since my knowledge on this comes from watching Judge Judy, so I could be wrong.

numerobis
numerobis
4 years ago

Francesca:

White, European men, never forget.

Good Caucasian Aryan men. Absolutely no relation to the area between the Black and Caspian seas where the scary middle eastern people live.

Acadia
Acadia
4 years ago

I hope it gets thrown out. This sets precedent that women owe men a certain experience when on a date and the courts can be used to coerce women into giving men this expected experience.

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@Fran

What did AFRICA do for us, anyway?

Invented vaccines, for a start.
@Sandra

because making a contract for that is rightly illegal?

Questions of personal moral feelings aside, criminalizing sex work creates far more problems than it would even theoretically solve. And doesn’t solve the problems it purports to address.
@Z&T

Because he caused all this and dragged her name in the public sphere – he should not only pay her legal costs

AFAIK in this type of suit whoever the court rules against winds up on the hook for all court costs regardless. That’s part of the problem, actually.

Bina
4 years ago

Wow, this guy takes pettiness to a whole new level…nay, a whole ‘nother order of magnitude! And then these bozos have the gall to wonder why women don’t appreciate what Nice Guys™ they all are.

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IgnoreSandra
IgnoreSandra
4 years ago

@Dalillama

criminalizing sex work

Ah, right. You are right. My bad.

If sex work is to be criminalized, buying it should be criminalized. Not selling it. But otherwise, yeah, you’re right.

Tosca, Chaos made Flesh
Tosca, Chaos made Flesh
4 years ago

I would not have believed anyone could make me side with the movie texter in a dispute. Congratulations, Vezmer.

IBH Ardipithecus
IBH Ardipithecus
4 years ago

Her best response right now would be to offer him the 17$. Most likely he’ll refuse because dickhead.

But then he’s guaranteed to lose the case.

On the offchance he accepts, she’s down $17, but up wind out of his sails, and hassle removed.

YV
YV
4 years ago

Texting in movies is rude, sure, but a threat to civilized society? C’mon.
I can’t imagine a judge NOT laughing at that.

@Dalillama

Invented vaccines, for a start.

Really? What’s the story behind that?

Meerkat
Meerkat
4 years ago

I read somewhere she was texting with a friend who was having a relationship crisis or something and had her phone “turned down” by which I hope she meant the screen brightness but who knows. Texting at a movie is not cool but I myself have talked on the phone on the train because of a cat emergency. Sorry no sources because I’m on break at work.

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
4 years ago

For fuck’s sake. You went on a date. It didn’t work out. Shit happens. Suck it up and move on.

Fact is that your date has the right to leave at any time, for any reason. She is voluntarily agreeing to be around you and she can decide not to be, if she wants. She doesn’t even have to tell you why.

If you can’t handle the notion of other people having independent opinions, you really shouldn’t be dating at all.

EJ (the Scheming Liberal Race-Traitor)

I’ve been on dates where we just didn’t click, and ended up poking our phones until we finished our drink and left.

I’ve been on dates where one person clicked and the other didn’t, and they left at the end of the evening and never communicated again.

Some fraction of your dates will be washouts. This is normal. This is part of the dating experience. Does this dude not understand that?

My guess is that on some level he does understand it, and it’s so difficult to reconcile with his privileged entitlement that it makes him furiously angry. Cognitive dissonance is a scary thing.

Tessa
Tessa
4 years ago

“I think that this was probably a really great date for her. I was really nice. She seemed to be having a great time up until the point when I asked her to stop texting. I bought her pizza, drove her car—I thought that this was a fun, nice date. I wasn’t actually interested in seeing her again very early on, but she was nice, the conversation was light. I felt comfortable continuing the date. I don’t think that this was a bad experience for her. I think this was a bad experience for me. I think what’s a bad experience for her at this point is being held responsible for her bad behavior. And I don’t think she’s handling that very well.”

“Drove her car”? I’m really curious about this. This was their first date. I wouldn’t let a first date drive my car.

Also, the second half of this sounds like complete sour grapes. Jeesh, transparent.

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
4 years ago

The guy who responds to a bad date with a lawsuit says that she‘s not handling it well. You can’t make this shit up.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ viscaria

IANAL

Maybe not, but that’s a spot on analogy.

Funnily enough this crops up most often about engagement rings. But to quote the wonderful Zsa Zsa Gabor “I’ve never hated a man enough to give him the jewellery back.”

misophistry
misophistry
4 years ago

What a massively sad wanker. I hope he gets his comeuppance. Glad I’m out of dating really.

Ellesar
Ellesar
4 years ago

anyone can look up her identity. There is no real privacy in the civil legal system so he has effectively already compromised her safety and well being and will likely cost her money

And considering the pettiness and unpleasantness of this man one cannot help but think that this is totally his intention. The $17 and ‘civilised society’ stuff is just a ridiculous excuse.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ David F

Oh, man, he just keeps digging his hole.

Gawd, that was borderline painful. So it’s not just the $17; he also wants €4 for pizza. It’s annoying that he’s even being taken seriously and the woman is having to respond. I wish there was a way one could just send him the $21 on her behalf just to get shut of him.

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
4 years ago

This is what I think happened:

1) Guy acts like a creeper. Girl gets rightfully worried and uncomfortable. Perhaps afraid of the fallout if she simply leaves and ditches him.
2) She opens her phone and texts a friend to ask what to do. Short conversation, I highly doubt it was 10-20 messages like this guy claims.
3) Guy gets annoyed, asks her to do it outside. She takes her opportunity and doesn’t come back.

EJ (the Scheming Liberal Race-Traitor)

@Sunnysombrera:
Judging by what he said, I agree with you:

I wasn’t actually interested in seeing her again very early on, but she was nice, the conversation was light.

Translation:
We were both bored. I rambled, and she didn’t try to raise any opinions of her own.

Lea
Lea
4 years ago

She apparently said she had a friend in the middle of an emergency texting her.
He asked her to leave. She left. He is now taking her to court for it.
He stalked her by tracking her down through family members in social media.
She has now taken out a restraining order.
He began a Twitter account just to crow about how awful she is and whip up other creepy fucks. I have no doubt she will be harassed and terrorized all because she went on one date with this loser asshole.

Now, why don’t more women give “nice guys” a chance?

Here’s food for thought: If men can sue women for not completing the date in a way the man likes, how long before they start during because they didn’t get a blow job?

According to MRAs, taking a woman out on a date and not getting sexually serviced after is as bad as rape. They aren’t being ironic. They actually believe that. So, how long before they sue for restitution when women don’t fuck them?

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
4 years ago

A)

The story has largely been treated as a quirky case of a person attempting to correct bad behaviour through unusual means(…)

(From this article.)

QUIRKY? If there needed to be more evidence we need less cis white men in our media, here it is. This is not quirky, it is frightening. This shows what sort of response a man who feels like he has been wronged can get from the wider media. He’s famous.

I don’t like texters either. But i am pretty upset with james gunn jokingly calling for jail time, a tweet which i am reading as siding with this asshole and not with the woman who is now pretty much guaranteed to be harassed.

Next week, when the story breaks about all the death and rape threats she is going to get, i hope everyone who wrote about this as a quirky story will feel horrified and realise their part in encouraging this damn harassment.

B) I am also super curious as to why he was driving HER car. If i owned a car, no first date or acquaintance is ever getting behind the wheel.

That fact alone convinces me that he was a creep on the date. Why wasn’t that examined in the damn article???

JS
JS
4 years ago

Knowing movie ticket prices around Austin, $17.31 is “2 tickets plus tax, no refreshments purchased.” It will cost him significantly more in court fees ($100 plus a little depending on which one) to file the case. He’s very unlikely to prevail unless she fails to show up in court, so this $17 date just turned into $117 + time to appear in court. Kind of an “own-goal” situation. I do wish she wouldn’t have to be there to deal with this idiot.

Alex Jones is also from Austin. I’m sorry to say that every time I find an info-oars business card display at local “leave your card here for people to take”, I do my best to take all of them.

LindsayIrene, Rioting Werebonobo

But i am pretty upset with james gunn jokingly calling for jail time

After watching ‘Super’*, it’s pretty clear to me that James Gunn is susceptible to the ‘poor sad rejected heartbroken nerdboy’ worldview, so I don’t expect him to come down on the right side of this.

* Jesus fuck, I hated that movie. This is the only part I liked:
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You’re always a kaiju in my heart, Michael Rooker.

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