You know, dude, you’re allowed to not like your mom, and maybe you even have good reasons for it. But damn, dude, why do you have to hate everyone else’s mom, too?
READERS! Stay tune tomorrow for a look at a much longer and in many ways even nastier MGTOW disquisition on motherhood and mother’s day, which was helpfully left in the comments here by a very angry dude!
I was lucky enough not to have horrid parents like some of you seem to have. My mother’s worst failing is probably being a Bircher sympathizer, which I can tolerate as long as I avoid talking politics with her (or if the subject turns to the Fanta Menace, whom we both hate). It gets really horrible, however, when her dad, even more Bircher than she, comes along and they start talking politics. Throw in my survivalist younger brother with stirrings of sov-cit, and you have a right-wing echo chamber. Anyone to the left of Glenn Beck is encouraged to stand back at least 20 m.
@Pie: Love the comic (of a man angrily asking, “Why isn’t there a WHITE mother’s day? for MEN?!?!)
Wow you guys def have way more probs than me. I get on well with my mum, she flew to the UK last week for a month so I get to not have to do mothers day this year – yay! My dad was an alcoholic train wreck who I estranged myself from when I was 19. Dali you have my sympathies, and also admiration! That’s a lot of reality for your folks, I hope they come to terms with it all. It’s always better to be yourself than to be depressed. It’s easier to say it than do it though so I think you are pretty brave.
Reading this, it’s occurring to me that the whole #EndFathersDay hoax was–like so many other MGTOW complaints about feminism–sheer projection. No feminists care about banning Father’s Day, but MGTOWS and the like would absolutely ban Mother’s Day in a heartbeat if they could. Because apparently that kind of thing is only ridiculous and bad when imaginary feminists do it.
I’m grateful to have a pretty cool mom who I’ll be calling in the morning.
Into my fourth decade on this crazy little planet, and I’m still working through parent issues (they both behaved appallingly at different points in my childhood).
The truth is, that they are flawed human beings. Like we all are. I had trouble absorbing that simple fact for years.
Obviously, MGTOW are going to make a given mother’s poor parenting skills an issue of gender. Because they make everything an issue of gender. And as usual, they’d be wrong.
Clicked on the link – I choose that the response in that thread is a guy who has forgotten to get his mother a present and MGTOW reminded him
I get on very well with my mother, but not so much with my dad (not least because he bullies/squashes her every attempt at disagreeing with her; constantly derails whatever conversation we’re having to whatever he wants to talk about (usually anecdotes about his time in the Forces) and gets angry when you point this out; and is horrifically unaware of current cultural behaviour standards (he means well, but he genuinely thinks saying black people have natural rhythm is a compliment and he will not hear any reasons why it isn’t).
I really wish Mum would just divorce him. But they are both in their 70s so unlikely.
It sounds awful but I really hope he dies first.
My Mom passed away when I was in my 20s. Just when I was firmly establishing an adult relationship with her (we butted heads all the way through my childhood and adolescence, to the extent that I moved out to care for my Grandma when aged 10 (cancer, dementia) so I could occasionally avoid being the family scapegoat and only moved back ‘home’ aged 14 when Grandma passed away).
I miss her and I appreciate everything good she did, while acknowledging she was not a great parent to me.
Even at the height of our conflicts I would never have dreamt of shitting all over everyone else’s Mother’s Day just to make my point.
1. “In which?”
2. Best wishes to both those celebrating Mother’s Day today and those not doing so. I will be, but it’s not a simple or easy. thing.
3. @dreemr or anyone else: I love hbomberguy! Any other favorite takedowners? I like TakedownMRAs, AngryWhiteMen, r/the bluepill, this site…what else is good? I just went to the uncut r/MGTOW for the first time. Noped out after 5 minutes. What an unpleasant place.
I love my mum, but she’s already had two mothers day cards out of me this year due to a mix up. This must be the american mothers day right?
I love the toothpaste for dinner cartoon Pie.
@Kivutar
Also, it never ceases to amaze me the way these turds resent the fact that women age as time goes by. Um, what are we supposed to do about that?
Not age? Since we’re objects we’re broken if we age, fart, bleed, or need too much food.
Anyway, I wish I could find a screenshot of that guy who whined about maternity wards being misandry because there was no paternity wards. Just about sums these guys perfectly.
@Patty Thinkererer
Thank you very much. And to you as well. 🙂
Happy U.S. Mother’s Day to all the Mammotheer moms.
My kids gave me some lovely art today. It is a beautiful sunny day. I’m going to enjoy some sunshine and fresh air today. I hope you all get to enjoy your days too.
What’s kind of funny is that Mothers’ Day was not about honoring your own mother, but about honoring the social and political contributions of mothers in general.
I’m spending Mother’s Day morning feeding and entertaining my son, who’s not quite eleven months, and hoping that on Mother’s Days to come, at the least, he has nice memories of me, and doesn’t act like a petulent horror because I was WELL post wall before he was born.
My Mom passed away not very long ago, so I will visit her grave.
Happy Mother’s Day, Mom; I continue to miss you every day, and will love you for the rest of mine. ???????
Every one else:
Happy Day, whether a mom or not. ?
Happy Mother’s Day to all the moms in mammoth land! Thanks for everything you do.
@Everyone who has rough relationships with their parents: I’m sorry. You deserved better when you were growing up, and you deserve better now.
I think we’re supposed to just keel over and die. If we’re not pleasing an MGTOW boner, what else could we possibly contribute to society?
@weirwoodtreehugger
I suggest “be broken up for spare parts”, but who’d want donor organs that had been used to break down other mens’ sperm? Eew.
Happy Mother’s Day to all celebrating.
Well that about says it for a lot of us.
My parents are both deceased, and it was basically an enormous relief. I did have a tolerable, even enjoyable (at times) relationship with my mother in the last 10 years, but it was still difficult. My parents were never people you could lean on or count on for any reason, they were more or less emotional children for whom I was responsible from a very young age (until I first cut them off and then only permitted very very limited contact, if any).
The minor thing that irritates me is the blanket “Oh mothers are so amazingly AWESOME” stuff that gets posted on social media. “Not for all of us”, you want to say. But that’s minor, and if you had/have great parents, I’m all the happier for you.
@Serebrianyi Golub I don’t know that many others, I’ll take a look at the ones you mention. I get most of my info from here!
@Podkayne Lives – I had my son WELL past the wall lol. He’s a self-proclaimed “mama’s boy” by which I think he means I’m someone he trusts and leans on.
In good news, after many years of ignoring him, his father has recently begun spending a lot of time with our son. And so far, it’s been pretty good, overall, at least our son seems very happy about it. It’s mostly working together on the farm. He’s been spending every weekend there and when school lets out he’ll spend most of the summer there.
I am the one trying to adjust! The farm is only about 14 miles from my house, so it isn’t like he’s far away. It’s just weird to not have him around all the time. I’m not super-great with changes but like I said, I’m trying.
I’m dealing with some jealousy over it. Since my son and I are very close, when he comes home on Sundays he wants to tell me all about everything they did together and everything he has learned so far about his dad – in my head I call it “OMG Dad is SO AWESOME!” time. I smile and nod and agree with the things I can agree with – yes, he’s got a good sense of humor; yes, he has good taste in music, etc. But y’know.
In his favor, he’s never said anything critical of me to our son, and I try to offer the same. It’s just an adjustment, and I’m actually very glad they are building a relationship. Better late than never.
My mother got the important stuff right. She has my undying love and respect, and a home with me, should she ever need or want it.
Kivutar said
I shudder to think!
Ignore Sandra said
IKR? How do these guys even cope with Administrative Professionals’ day? (woman-heavy) Grandparents’ day? (ew, old!)
I think these guys are just opposed to appreciating other people for any reason.
My mom passed 36 years ago, my MIL hates Mother’s day, I don’t have kids, and almost all of my friends are childless by choice as well, but good parents are a treasure! Happy Mothers’ Day to all who want to accept the sentiment!
NightShadeQueen – I never knew that and I have corrected my apostrophes, thanks!
@Dali
That was one of the few good things about my mother, no bigotry, tons of neglect but no bigotry. Although when I was younger it used to piss me off that while she was depressive herself, she didn’t recognize my depression and called me lazy.
@Fran
*hugs* (if you want them)
Not only is that insulting to people who didn’t have great mothers, it’s also objectifying. Like once a woman becomes a mother, that’s all she is. All mothers are the same and they all live for nothing but nurturing their children. Even when those children are adults. A lot of people who post that stuff have good intentions, I’m sure. But it feeds into the patriarchal assumption that motherhood is all women exist for.
Just as I was complaining about mothers being overly-deified on social media, a friend of mine posted this:
There were quite a few “hear hear!”s.
I wonder if this dude realizes he called himself Satan’s grandkid? I mean, if his mom is the Spawn of Satan, that makes him the Spawn of Satan’s Spawn.
*Hugs* if wanted to everyone dealing with a crappy mom.