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Open Thread for Personal Stuff: May 2017 Cat Bird Edition

Apparently these two are best buddies; the kitten won’t eat the bird when it wakes up

A somewhat belated Open Thread for Personal Stuff. No trolls, no MRAs, no mean stuff. Email me if anything gets weird.

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EJ (Marxist Jazz Weasel)

@NickNameNick:
I was disappointed with Jennifer Government. It could have been really good, given that the author writes well and the theme is interesting. However, it felt like a novel-length straw-man without even the wit of a clever satire.

Altered Carbon, on the other hand, is magnificent. Like all the best sci-fi it’s really about our own age, using technological extrapolation as a device to examine our society.

I’ve recently started reading Apex Hides the Hurt. It’s fun – I like the very terse, bare style.

NickNameNick
NickNameNick
7 years ago

@EJ:

That’s unfortunate to hear – I really liked Machine Man, which is why I’m reading it now.

I am quite looking forward to Broken Angels and Woken Furies. It’s just too bad they’re the only other two Takeshi Kovacs novels, ’cause I really like the character and the universe he inhabits. Reminds me a lot of Ghost in the Shell but more interplanetary…

At times you think you can be good friends with the guy (I particularly enjoy all his anti-authoritarian quotes from Quellcrist Falconer) but, at the other times, he’s kind of a bastard who you’d want to stay away from as much as possible. For every good action he does, several terrible things happen to other people – including those who are helping him – due to his stubborn recklessness.

EJ (Marxist Jazz Weasel)

@NickNameNick:
I see what you mean about Takeshi Kovacs. I have a theory that he’s actually an unstable mixture of two different characters: the human being that Morgan wanted to write him as, and the hardboiled killer that the genre requires him to be written as. The character sort of lurches from one characterisation to the other depending on the needs of the particular scene. It’s a huge credit to Morgan as a writer that he manages to tie this together into a single fairly believable character.

I haven’t read the other two, but they’re on the list.

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@EJ (MJW)

Pretty sure that’s the point of the character; he’s had massive brainfuckery to make him a supersoldier and it shows. Also, he was a person before that, and that shows through sometimes. Also probably has a million kinds of ptsd.

rugbyyogi
rugbyyogi
7 years ago

I had a date this week – yay! And it was good. And then I saw him again the next day and made him my famous slow cooked pork. (not a euphemism)

There will be a bit of break as he’s away for work and then spending time with his kids, but I’ll see him again after that even though I’m not 100% sure about it.

Part of me is a little nervous about him because he reminds me of my ex in some ways. They kinda sorta work in the same field. But this one is better looking and at a more prestigious employer – the fact that this pleases me worries me, too.

Ellesar
Ellesar
7 years ago

people don’t understand that depression can manifest as apathy and lethargy instead.

weirwood: I empathise completely. I was never so lethargic and tired ALL the time as when I was in a DV situation. Partner used the symptom as another way to verbally abuse me! It certainly isn’t laziness. I think that the mind is using so much energy trying to survive that the body is depleted. For me it was situational, but still crops up now and then.

epitome of incomprehensibility

@wwth (from a while back) – I’ve had similar problems with work, being told I’m not getting enough tasks done, and then “The reason you make mistakes is that you get in a rush.”

Jesalin
Jesalin
7 years ago

@Oogly, PoM, and Shartheheretic

Thanks for the information! I’m on a low dose of the generic XR and I’m really hoping it’ll help because I’m ..well, because. I’ve tried various anti-depressants before (all SSRIs) and never got anything useful out of them, but hopefully this one will help!

Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
7 years ago

wwth and dreemr – Thanks, I think I’ll try that since my lifelong habit has been to read first, then watch. I’ve gotten over (mostly) being disappointed by differences between books and their adaptations, except when it affects the story heavily.

Stephen King I’ve always had to read first because a good portion of what he writes I don’t want to see in movie form. If “Misery” is on TV, I’ll change the channel or leave the room if at all possible. Same for “Cujo” and “Pet Sematary.” I have problems with too much tension and suspense and a book is easy to put down until I’m ready to deal with it again.

Victoria
Victoria
7 years ago

@Hambeast

I have the same problem but I love horror movies! So I pause the movie and pace around the move to relieve some of the excess energy and anxiety and turn it back on.

…I’m in a really bad place right now and have only one person I know in real life that I’m comfortable talking about stuff like that with anymore. I don’t want to dump all my problems on them, so I’m kind of stuck with all these thoughts and this situation all to myself.

I don’t know what to do.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
7 years ago

@rugbyyogi, I think the fact that you are aware of the things you mention means you are unlikely to let them blind you either way – I mean as to whether or not you feel that you are genuinely getting on well with this person and whether or not you and they are a good enough fit for each other to have another date or two … So hopefully you can enjoy each other’s company and see how it goes … ?

Anyway, yay for having had an enjoyable date and a nice meal!

I went to a Captain Awkward meetup and everyone was lovely and also extra yay I got some Very Useful info wrt a benefit I am trying to help someone get, because by chance someone at the meetup had a flatmate who had done the same process and someone else there also had some advice. Hooray! The condition that means they need the benefit in the first place will still be there, of course, making their life more difficult – but it certainly helps to get advice about the application process.

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
7 years ago

@Hambeast: For what Catbeast health issue, do you use CBD oil? Just curious. I remember, awhile back, you mentioned using CBD oil. I have a cat who’s older than Troubelle, the commenter, and she’s got a large bald spot on her back, also a few minor scratches.

@WWTH: Your job seems to be nearly impossible. I sympathize.

For anyone suffering from depression, I realize you’ve probably heard this before, but exercise (I know some of us are limited here) has been shown to help. It doesn’t have to be major. A walk will suffice.

@IP: I’m really sorry to hear you haven’t been feeling well. I realize your arthritis makes exercise difficult for you. If it makes you feel any better, you are indeed charming and witty. Your excellent English, makes me feel inadequate.

If anyone has issues with anxiety…I’m a little hesitant to mention this, but there’s a smart drug, Phenibut, that might help. Be sure to research it THOROUGHLY before you give it a try. It’s not without it’s downside.

@Ooglyboggles: I’m glad your aunt is feeling better.

I feel guilty about mentioning this, but when I’m feeling unhappy about something, I think about my brother-in-law. He has Parkinson’s disease. He had brain surgery a few years ago, which was supposed to either arrest or alleviate his symptoms. This surgery left him a quadriplegic. He’s 59 years old; he could live for many years in this state.

dreemr
dreemr
7 years ago

@Hambeast – give them a try, you’ll like both, probably. I used to re-read and re-watch things but I don’t do that so much anymore, and I haven’t done it with either ASoIaF nor with GoT, but I have enjoyed both.

My son has the same trouble with high tension in films. It’s better when it’s something we watch at home, where you can kind of dilute it a bit? If it’s something I’ve already seen or know the ending of, though, I will often tell him if the character he’s worried about lives/dies/etc. He HATES ambiguous or unhappy endings, so I avoid those with him if I can – and I am one who really likes ambiguous or non-standard endings.

I was never able to watch scary movies until I was around 21-22 years old, I think “Nightmare on Elm Street” was the first one I saw, on HBO. Then, during the heydey of VHS, for a long time horror films were the ones most often out on video, so I saw a lot of older ones then.

PaganReader - Misandrist Spinster

Antidepressants can make it hard to feel emotions? I wonder if Paxil does that. Maybe I should ask my meds doctor about that.

dreemr
dreemr
7 years ago

@PaganReader

Antidepressants can make it hard to feel emotions?

I have not heard that. Speaking only for myself, I have not experienced that at all in 17 years of taking an antidepressant. I experience normal emotions (including sadness). It doesn’t dampen any emotions. For me, it makes things “handle-able”. I don’t get overwhelmed.

I have, however, experienced lessening of sex drive, particularly over the past 5 years. However, that is also due to other factors in addition to my antidepressant, including obesity, aging, hypo-thyroid, and imminent menopause.

Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
7 years ago

Victoria – That’s a good idea, I should try that sometime. I will still never watch “Misery” though, it was hard enough to get through in print! Also, people here are great about allowing you to share your worries/issues/problems. If you think it might help, give it a try?

Dormousing_it – I was giving Catbeast the CBD oil for appetite issues; he has an abdominal growth that kind of smooshes his stomach and small intestines. I’ve stopped for now because he started vomiting it up and is currently eating as well without it as he was with. That being said, he hardly eats enough to keep a bird alive anymore. :/ He still enjoys his daily life, just more slowly. I’m enjoying every day I still get to have with him but I don’t think we’ll have him for too much longer; he also has kidney failure and a heart murmur which makes him a non-candidate for surgery. :'(

A few weeks ago, he did have some bald spots developing around the whiskers on his mouth. I looked it up on a forum and a few people said something about bacterial growth in water dishes so I started washing his water dish every morning and they have gone away completely. Since your cat has the bald spot on her back, I think allergies or reactions to bites or scratches is more likely. CBD oil can help those, too.

If you live in a state with legal or medical cannabis, it’s probably less expensive to get CBD oil in a dispensary if you can; it’s quite pricey online.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ paganreader

Thanks for those pics. For some reason though I find that bottom cartoon a bit scary. He just looks like a malfunctioning robot. I imagine him repeating “I wuv you Alan…” as he rips my head off.

(Am I the only one getting that vibe, or is there a general uncanny vibe about him?)

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@PaganReader

Antidepressants can make it hard to feel emotions?

A significant number of people experience SSRIs as feelling like their brains are wrapped in cotton or they are watching the world through a glass pane. I am one of those people.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
7 years ago

@Oogly

I’m very glad to hear your aunt is better! Much love.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Ooglyboggles: YAY!

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
7 years ago

@Hambeast: Poor Catbeast. At least he’s able to enjoy his day-to-day life. I don’t live in or near any state where cannabis is legal. Pennsylvania will probably be the very last state where that will happen.

I’ve been on SSRI’s for about 15 years. I have found that they do muffle my emotions. However, I’m one of those people who cries over Hallmark greeting cards, and I’ve been called “high-strung” more than once.

NickNameNick
NickNameNick
7 years ago

@EJ and Dalillama:

I have a theory that he’s actually an unstable mixture of two different characters: the human being that Morgan wanted to write him as, and the hardboiled killer that the genre requires him to be written as. The character sort of lurches from one characterisation to the other depending on the needs of the particular scene. It’s a huge credit to Morgan as a writer that he manages to tie this together into a single fairly believable character.

Pretty sure that’s the point of the character; he’s had massive brainfuckery to make him a supersoldier and it shows. Also, he was a person before that, and that shows through sometimes. Also probably has a million kinds of ptsd.

Not to mention the physical dysphoria and identity crisis that comes with switching bodies and, in some cases, making copies of yourself. Moreso than the majority of other characters within the setting. It’s mentioned off-handedly that the average person is “re-sleeved” only once, because they can only afford that much and getting transferred to a new sleeve once is more than enough.

I liked the bit involving Irene Elliot where, upon sleeping with her husband in a body that isn’t her own (’cause Takeshi had to be a dick to an antagonistic benefactor and wasn’t able to get her original one back), she claims it felt like an act of infidelity on both of their parts as well as all the out-of-body moments Kovacs has when occupying Elias Ryker’s body. Specifically the fact he finds it difficult to quit smoking due to Ryker’s own habits, then wonders at one point if his attraction to Kristin Ortega has more to do with physical chemistry than through personal interaction.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
7 years ago

@Alan

I notice you seem to be disquieted by overly cute things, such as MLP ponies and that gif.

I’m gonna mess with your mind now.

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NickNameNick
NickNameNick
7 years ago

@Francesca Torpedo:

I notice you seem to be disquieted by overly cute things

So, kind of like a Klingon…?

😛