No one should be turning to the neo-Nazi online tabloid The Daily Stormer for dating advice, but on the off chance that you are, I have to warn you that they don’t know what they’re talking about.
I mean, they don’t know what they’re talking about when it comes to pretty much everything, but in this case their ignorance involves what actually went on in the supposed 1950s cultural paradise they want to return us to, forcibly if necessary.
In a post with the sarcastic title “Dating Advice: The Key to Good Relationships is Cheating on Your Boyfriends,” regular Daily Stormer contributor “Zeiger” takes aim at a “fat Paki skag” dating expert who has the temerity to argue that women searching for “the One” should date a bunch of guys casually before committing to one of them.
I know, shocking.
Well, it is to Zeiger.
Not so long ago, women didn’t feel like they needed dating advice. After all, they just had to stand around somewhere until a man came to them and took care of everything for them.
All they had to worry about was serving him beer and cooking his food right so he didn’t dump their ungrateful asses.
Zeiger illustrates this point with a magazine illustration from the 1950s depicting happy teenage girls learning to bake a cake, so it’s pretty clear what romanticized past Zeiger is harking back to.
Alas, we have fallen so far from this imaginary paradise!
But in the era of NUMALE faggots and Jew feminism, women are confused. They think it’s somehow their job to understand relationships. This is already a completely insane concept.
But it gets worse.
These days, they’re getting their relationship advice from insane Paki sluts.
The “Paki slut” in question is a “relationship coach” named Sami Wunder who was recently featured in the British tabloid The Express. Despite Zeiger’s headline, Wunder does not actually suggest that women cheat on their boyfriends. Rather, she recommends that women looking for a husband date multiple men, non-exclusively, holding off on serious committment until one of them pops the question.
Whatever you think of this advice, it’s hardly “cheating” to date more than one person when you’re not in an exclusive relationship, presuming everyone is on the up and up on this.
Zeiger is outraged by the very idea.
I guarantee that no real man would “put a ring” on the finger of some hoe who cheated on him with a bunch of other guys. A “man” so pussy-whipped would more appropriately be called a “humanoid slug.” …
What this shows is the urgent need women have for stable, healthy relationships. And that is something that can only be provided by WHITE SHARIA – not fat Paki whore dating advice.
Zeiger’s anger here seems to stem from the same mix of entitlement and insecurity that drives the alt-right obsession with “cucks” and “cucking.” These are men who, on some level, feel entitled to any attractive woman who wanders into their field of vision, and feel betrayed — even “cucked” — when any of these women date or marry or just have sex with some guy other than them.
But we’re not just entitlement we’re dealing with here. More than a few alt-rightist dudes — and manosphere dudes generally — fetishize nubile young virgins, not just because they’re creepy dudes who are way too into women and girls far too young for them, but because virgins have no way to compare their sexual prowess with other men. Many manosphere dudes are quite open about this anxiety, complaining that women who’ve been with more than one guy will endlessly compare them with their earlier partners.
These are the same guys who go around boasting about what “alphas” they are.
But there’s another giant irony in Zeiger’s piece: dating in the 1950s, at least at the start of the decade, looked a lot more like Wunder’s world than Zeigers in some crucial respects.
In the 40s and early 50s, teenagers were encouraged to “play the field,” casually dating an assortment of not-quite-steady partners rather than committing to a single person.
It wasn’t until later in the decade that teens began to shift en masse to the more familiar (to us, that is) strategy of “going steady.” And far from welcoming this new monogamy, many parents were horrified. Magazines at the time were filled with alarming articles on the supposedly grave dangers of going steady.
Here’s one from 1960 warning teens that going steady might be “too dangerous” for them.
Here’s one from 1957 examining the potential “immorality” of going steady.
And here’s a graphic from a pamphlet or magazine article from the era wondering when it was “too early” for teens to go steady.
And parents actually had some legitimate reasons to worry. On the one hand, they worried that teens who “went steady” without dating around first would settle down with the first person of the opposite sex who was nice to them, not realizing they could have done better.
On the other hand, they worried that teens who “went steady” would also end up going further sexually — which could lead, as sex often does, to pregnancy and too-early marriage. Indeed, the age of first marriage dropped precipitously in the 1950s as more teens married, helping to contribute to the spiraling divorce rates of the 1960s and 1970s as these too-hasty marriages fell apart.
It was kind of a screwed-up decade; happily, the sexual revolution of the 1960s convinced a hefty chunk of Americans young and old that 1) sex isn’t the end of the world and 2) it isn’t always such a great idea for teens to settle down forever with the very first person they have sex with.
The weird thing is that the 1950s parents, for all their faults, were more interested in girls and young women having choices than are the alt-rightists of today.
Parents in the 1950s worried that their daughters would end up getting too seriously involved with the wrong guys because they had no good basis for comparison.
Alt-rightists and manosphere dudes today are apparently afraid that no women will settle for them if they realize there are other men out there who aren’t, you know, reactionary racists who think women shouldn’t really be allowed to make their own decisions about anything.
I’m thinking they’re probably right to worry about this. And I’m glad.
@ Valentine Almost everything I know about working as a sailor comes from this book:
https://us.macmillan.com/lookingforaship/johnmcphee/9780374523190/
Have you seen it, and if so what did you think?
@epitome
Almost exactly average. Almost!? *cries in a corner* ?
@Valentine
кулак шишка
(Hope I got the translation OK ?)
@EJ
Fair enough, I’ll try to be less snide… Also:
^This. Privileged people have the luxury of glorious revolution. And their upheavals are notorious for leaving everyone else out in the cold
@Ouro
This is terribly disingenuous. Plenty of people make plenty of posts everyday which don’t outrage me. You’ve made plenty of posts that didn’t outrage me. It isn’t “every little thing” I have a problem with, and I’ve told you repeatedly what my objections actually are
As far as normalcy, I know you’ve been on this blog long enough to know that ‘normal’ is a Bad Word. That it’s usually ableist, but can be used against any oppressed group to other and exclude them. You know this, or you should know this. Get it together
There is no valid reason to hang someone. Because hanging someone is a Bad Thing to do. There may be valid reasons to commit murder (the line between it and self defense is a thin one), but certainly not in this case. Again, going back to the post that started this, the crime for which rich people should be tortured to death is ‘receiving an inheritance’. That was your original “valid reason”
I mean, you added more stuff later, but missed the point entirely. It doesn’t matter who your power fantasy targets. As EJ put it:
It’s rather unlikely that the solution to toxic whiteness and masculinity is more of the same but a ‘lefty’ this time. So, please, have a seat. Listen and learn. And obey the damn comments policy! If I hafta follow the rules, so do you…
@alan
Dude don’t tell aruni about this…he’ll get his skull and pizza box and keyboard short cuts out again.
Sex and drugs and publshinh books! I should become author now….write a book about the sea on english and then move to England and join this party!
@Axe
Не парься, я понимаю тебя 😉
@ valentine
I like how that rhymes; sounds like an album title.
Life of Pi was a Booker winner that’s, sort of, about sailing. I was a bit concerned because it referenced Richard Parker and that’s something I’ve been wanting to write about for decades. But luckily winning was the kiss of death for the book so nobody read it. (A winner once suggested they should use the prize money to put copies of the books in libraries so they’d actually be read as well as bought, which he believed was rarely the case).
@ alan
It does rhymes? I don’t know when i read it doesn’t to me…. ?
I didnt read life of pi. My girlfriend did and made me watch movie, it was okay. Begining i was not happy with, i dont like to watch ships sinking. I am superstitios a little bit. She seems to like makinh me watch stuff like that….the perfect storm, titanic, the finest hours, captain phillips….
Also i am going to.sound like a big idot now but who is Richard Parker – i thought it was just strange named tiger…
@ valentine
He was an unfortunate cabin boy. He was one of four men who ended up adrift in a lifeboat. Eventually the survivors drew lots, Parker lost, so they ate him. The subsequent legal case is quite interesting and is still a key authority today. It even crops up in counter terrorism in relation to shooting down aircraft. See here for more details.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Dudley_and_Stephens
However what I find especially fascinating about the case is that Edgar Allan Poe wrote a story called The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym. In that story four men end up adrift in a lifeboat. They draw lots, the cabin boy loses so they eat him. In the story the cabin boy is called Richard Parker.
What’s spooky though is the story was written decades before the real event.
@ alan
Holy fuck. I am on the bridge now (yeah with phone so sue me, we in pacific, quiet ocean, no traffic). It is 0332 and i got all my hairs standing up now.
In the event that moby dick is based upon, one lifeboat also did straws for eating one person. I saw that film too, this time.i.made my girlfriend watch this film – she say its boring ?
Also, Richard Parker is the name of Spiderman’s dad
>_>
*sees self out*
@guest
Sorry i missed your comment. No i didn’t read that book. Sounds like my job though, ship going somewhere and all people telling long boring stores which are not quite true 😉 i didn’t know yhe US have a problem with finding ships. For me i can go on any flag.
@axe
I fucking love spiderman! Didnt know that his dad was called Richard Parker. I thought it would be something with P P. Like Paul.
@ valentine
There are quite a few Richard Parkers who’ve been shipwrecked and/or eaten. Not sure what’s going on there; or whether Spiderman’s dad is amongst them.
If you really want to freak yourself out read ‘Arthur Gordon Pym’. I got the audiobook for some friends who went on a round the world yacht race (they were the support vessel). They sought to avoid the cannibalism though by attaching emergency supplies to the keel. I’m not sure if that demonstrates amazing foresight or disappointing lack of confidence in their own seamanship.
@Axe
I can’t exactly call myself normal by any stretch of the imagination but I sure as hell don’t hate you, not by a long shot.
@EJ
Fair enough.
@Ouroboros13
Use of “normal people hate you.” On a site that knows that word is often coded to say “hey you are freaks and should be shunned.” November was not a year ago, it was six months ago. If it was a year ago we’d be having this conversation on November 2017. You already know of the comments policy, at the very least adhere to it.
Alan: wiki says there were no lots, but Parker was comatose. So he’d likely have died anywaay.
The trial seems like a shitshow.
My grandmother (b. 1905) was amazed by my generation (I was born in 1953) because she thought it was unhealthy to pair off exclusively so quickly. In her youth, the girls spent tons of time with boys, not always under direct adult supervision, and nobody thought anything of it. The difference was, they usually dated in groups. A bunch of them would go to a movie or ice skating, or a walk in the park or something. The girls back then where she was (Philadelphia working class) weren’t locked up in harems. The original idea of dating was to learn about your own personality and that of others, who you would get along with better, who was available, what your social options were, and to develop your social skills and your ability to judge character, all without any expectation whatsoever that the girl would be “ruined” or pressured to “put out” or anything.
@ numberobis
Whilst I have been somewhat lazy about getting round to writing I have gathered a lot of source material; including all the trial(s) transcripts. And yup, shitshow was pretty much the contemporary view too. As to the drawing of lots, that was one of the contentious issues at the first trial. It seems agreed there was an initial drawing. There’s debate about whether there was a later one and, if so, whether it was rigged.
There’s all sorts of weird and fascinating things about the case though. Part of the problem in writing about it is that some things sound too much like fictional tropes and clichés. But it’s all true. I’m just surprised the story isn’t better known or that nobody else has tried to write it (outside of legal books).
@alan
Ships sink every week. Your friends right to prepare like that. It is correct. When i was preparing for my exams i read a lot of accident reports and also VDR transcript of El Faro. She was a big American ship that sank in hurricane Joiquim. 33 people. 2nd mate and stewardess there both female as well. I think you should read the transcript, and all sailors too should read it.
@scarletteepipestrelle
I realy like your name.
@ valentine
I’ll check that out; cheers. I do like stuff like that. I read the Admiralty law reports and they’re full of fascinating stuff. It’s amazing, to a land lubber like me, just how busy some shipping lanes are (and conversely, how big and empty the sea can be). I also got fascinated by the two Titanic enquiries. All the paperwork is digitised and public now, so that’s a nice diversion, especially from a legal perspective. I’ve done a bit of ship related stuff. It’s pretty cool compared to regular work. We once had a ship ‘arrested’. That literally involved sending bailiffs to board the ship and nail the warrant to the mast (or nearest equivalent bit, it was a modern cruise liner).
In case it hasn’t been mentioned yet, I’d like to point out that the concept of ‘paying court’ to a woman is a fairly old concept. (Or maybe I’ve just read too many fantasy novels.)
Really? Everyone and their dog read it around here. I was a bit weird in that I didn’t. (12-year-old hipster snobbishness: If everybody likes it so much, it can’t possibly be any good.) Maybe we ate it up because it was Canadian and was partially set in Canada. We love that round here.
@ viscaria
Over here it seemed to be one of those books that everybody had, but no one actually read. But maybe that’s just my circle, we are pretty useless like that.
Ah. Like Guns, Germs, and Steel.
Yup, or Brief History of Time.
I’ve read a Brief History of Time. 😛
@Alan
They probably don’t want to be accused of ripping off Poe
@Viscaria
I’ve read that one a few times. Also collapse
Yes, POM, but since you are a self-identified mad person it is entirely in character for you to read the book that everybody loves but nobody reads.
And, by the way, “normal” is the worst insult that has ever been directed at me — fortunately, I am very rarely so described.
And, Axe, I think almost everyone here actually loves you. Ouroboros needs to sit in the corner and think about what zie said. We need to be better than the people who think violence solves things.
Worst case avoided in France. To me, that’s a relief.
Let’s just hope for a left wing majority at the assembly now.