No one should be turning to the neo-Nazi online tabloid The Daily Stormer for dating advice, but on the off chance that you are, I have to warn you that they don’t know what they’re talking about.
I mean, they don’t know what they’re talking about when it comes to pretty much everything, but in this case their ignorance involves what actually went on in the supposed 1950s cultural paradise they want to return us to, forcibly if necessary.
In a post with the sarcastic title “Dating Advice: The Key to Good Relationships is Cheating on Your Boyfriends,” regular Daily Stormer contributor “Zeiger” takes aim at a “fat Paki skag” dating expert who has the temerity to argue that women searching for “the One” should date a bunch of guys casually before committing to one of them.
I know, shocking.
Well, it is to Zeiger.
Not so long ago, women didn’t feel like they needed dating advice. After all, they just had to stand around somewhere until a man came to them and took care of everything for them.
All they had to worry about was serving him beer and cooking his food right so he didn’t dump their ungrateful asses.
Zeiger illustrates this point with a magazine illustration from the 1950s depicting happy teenage girls learning to bake a cake, so it’s pretty clear what romanticized past Zeiger is harking back to.
Alas, we have fallen so far from this imaginary paradise!
But in the era of NUMALE faggots and Jew feminism, women are confused. They think it’s somehow their job to understand relationships. This is already a completely insane concept.
But it gets worse.
These days, they’re getting their relationship advice from insane Paki sluts.
The “Paki slut” in question is a “relationship coach” named Sami Wunder who was recently featured in the British tabloid The Express. Despite Zeiger’s headline, Wunder does not actually suggest that women cheat on their boyfriends. Rather, she recommends that women looking for a husband date multiple men, non-exclusively, holding off on serious committment until one of them pops the question.
Whatever you think of this advice, it’s hardly “cheating” to date more than one person when you’re not in an exclusive relationship, presuming everyone is on the up and up on this.
Zeiger is outraged by the very idea.
I guarantee that no real man would “put a ring” on the finger of some hoe who cheated on him with a bunch of other guys. A “man” so pussy-whipped would more appropriately be called a “humanoid slug.” …
What this shows is the urgent need women have for stable, healthy relationships. And that is something that can only be provided by WHITE SHARIA – not fat Paki whore dating advice.
Zeiger’s anger here seems to stem from the same mix of entitlement and insecurity that drives the alt-right obsession with “cucks” and “cucking.” These are men who, on some level, feel entitled to any attractive woman who wanders into their field of vision, and feel betrayed — even “cucked” — when any of these women date or marry or just have sex with some guy other than them.
But we’re not just entitlement we’re dealing with here. More than a few alt-rightist dudes — and manosphere dudes generally — fetishize nubile young virgins, not just because they’re creepy dudes who are way too into women and girls far too young for them, but because virgins have no way to compare their sexual prowess with other men. Many manosphere dudes are quite open about this anxiety, complaining that women who’ve been with more than one guy will endlessly compare them with their earlier partners.
These are the same guys who go around boasting about what “alphas” they are.
But there’s another giant irony in Zeiger’s piece: dating in the 1950s, at least at the start of the decade, looked a lot more like Wunder’s world than Zeigers in some crucial respects.
In the 40s and early 50s, teenagers were encouraged to “play the field,” casually dating an assortment of not-quite-steady partners rather than committing to a single person.
It wasn’t until later in the decade that teens began to shift en masse to the more familiar (to us, that is) strategy of “going steady.” And far from welcoming this new monogamy, many parents were horrified. Magazines at the time were filled with alarming articles on the supposedly grave dangers of going steady.
Here’s one from 1960 warning teens that going steady might be “too dangerous” for them.
Here’s one from 1957 examining the potential “immorality” of going steady.
And here’s a graphic from a pamphlet or magazine article from the era wondering when it was “too early” for teens to go steady.
And parents actually had some legitimate reasons to worry. On the one hand, they worried that teens who “went steady” without dating around first would settle down with the first person of the opposite sex who was nice to them, not realizing they could have done better.
On the other hand, they worried that teens who “went steady” would also end up going further sexually — which could lead, as sex often does, to pregnancy and too-early marriage. Indeed, the age of first marriage dropped precipitously in the 1950s as more teens married, helping to contribute to the spiraling divorce rates of the 1960s and 1970s as these too-hasty marriages fell apart.
It was kind of a screwed-up decade; happily, the sexual revolution of the 1960s convinced a hefty chunk of Americans young and old that 1) sex isn’t the end of the world and 2) it isn’t always such a great idea for teens to settle down forever with the very first person they have sex with.
The weird thing is that the 1950s parents, for all their faults, were more interested in girls and young women having choices than are the alt-rightists of today.
Parents in the 1950s worried that their daughters would end up getting too seriously involved with the wrong guys because they had no good basis for comparison.
Alt-rightists and manosphere dudes today are apparently afraid that no women will settle for them if they realize there are other men out there who aren’t, you know, reactionary racists who think women shouldn’t really be allowed to make their own decisions about anything.
I’m thinking they’re probably right to worry about this. And I’m glad.
@guest
Not ourselves, society. And I don’t think we are, but it’ll hafta wait til the red (read: white) parts of the map get their shit together /cromulism
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But, yeah, I catch your point ?
Chiming in here as a creator with a day job, I know this may sound counter-intuitive, but financial services, maybe? I don’t mean evil Wall Street banking or anything like that, just standard back office stuff. I fell into it because it was the first office job I could find when I was trying to avoid retail, but I’m still here 10 years later because it really works for me. To get started in back office work you don’t need a degree of any kind, you don’t need to have any special skills (including numbers, the systems do all that for you), you really just need to have your wits about you and ideally know what a spreadsheet is. It requires zero emotional involvement and it is very possible to still find fairly sedate 9-5 jobs (they won’t be the most interesting or the best paid of course, but they will still be decently paid compared to other fields which require no prior education).
And if you find you really do like it, you can take a number of qualifications ‘on the job’ and go into all kinds of fields (including regulatory stuff or compliance, to help curb Wall Street, if that’s your thing).
Best book about how we relate to work, and why:
http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/W/bo18221315.html
It’s been almost a year since I got my MA and I still can’t find that fulfilling career they promise you. The only jobs I get offered are soul-destroying sales jobs. It upsets and scares me a great deal and makes me wonder if I’ll spend the rest of my life as a zombie.
Meanwhile, the rich get more tax cuts from their inheritance money. It’s a shame you can’t hang them, of break them on the wheel.
On a lighter note my adopted father, who was born in 1940, got laid in his teens after a friend set him up with a girl. That’s right. Hook-ups were alive and well in 1950s.
Re: Employment:
At my internship (which is now over) we had a few guest speakers, one of whom was for some kind of social media thing, I forget.
But he had a piece of advice that I found really useful: “Start a blog about stuff you like. Blogs require writing skills, designing, and scheduling. These are in-demand skills that employers like to see in our digital age, especially because many of them have no idea how this stuff works, and that’s why they’re hiring.”
He mentioned he did the blog thing because he hated the job he was at, and it helped him immensely.
My other tip would be to network. Find workshops in your area for your field. Bring business cards. Schmooze as much as you are able.
Oh, and when people ask you what you’ve done in your field, don’t be all sunshine and rainbows about past jobs. Talk about mistakes you’ve made. This shows that you won’t make mistakes on THEIR dime should they hire you. Because you’ve learned.
I have to go into work soon, but I can post more notes about resumes and the like once I get home this evening, if anyone cares. :p
(By the by, if any of y’all need a business card, I’d be happy to help you design one, with a special “WHTM Comrade” discount, of course! 😉 )
@Helix_luco
Nothing yet. Though I plan to remedy this. (A friend of mine is way ahead of me on this front…)
@brian: I disagree about what I’d rather be in a room with. I think I could probably take the average out-of-shape neo-Nazi in a fight, but one hundred skags would be lethal.
I would say become a sailor))) if you can pass the medical though, so if you have physical disability then it will not be possible. But the medical is not like army medical or militaries; just to make sure you are well enough to do your duties. And if you dont like mathematics it is also okay. I dont like it. My father say all.people have a ceiling in mathematics. My ceiling is very low. But i still do it! I am navigation officer. And also now lots of women coming to sea. It is hard because you work long hours but if you are smart in surviving it is good. Money is good and holidays are long. I have 4 months on the ship then 2 months at home. No need for good maths or good english. Just be enthusiastic! I also hate lots of people, on cargo ships just 24 people maximum,
So its nice and quiet environment, on my watch schedule 0000 to 0400 and 1200 to 1600 if i see someone it is not very often. It is not all about passenger ships. And also lots of different nationalites and people, sailors are surprisingly open minded.
@Axecalibur re: Ikigai
I’ve seen some people poking fun at that ikigai diagram. It is very much “as translated by TED talk silicon-valley mentality” version of ikigai. For instance, someone’s ikigai can be raising their children even though they don’t get paid for that. Capitalist thought would like you to believe this is an inherent requirement.
Helix and Troubelle: I (and my company) have billed a thousand or two hours working in Unity, and several hundred in Unreal engine, on top of projects I couldn’t bill for. Also some maya scripting (not to mention a few years working at autodesk). So if you have questions…
What Rhuu says about animation in Vancouver is what I’ve seen here in Montreal. Rent is cheaper here, and the pastries are better.
One studio I worked with had fewer than fifty people on staff — maybe a dozen animators and a dozen other artists — when I first showed up. Six months later they were at 150 and making room for another 50. In a year when their production ends, that’s 100-150 people who need to find the next contract. The CG sup on that project mentioned he’d been at a company a few years that fluctuated from 50 staff to 500 and back a couple times while he was there.
In that context — but really throughout life — you need to know people and be known.
Networking isn’t such dirty business. It’s what we’re doing here right now.
TIL advice and support has an age limit attached to it.
Good luck, Francesca. I wish you the best.
@rrh
I mean, the fact that it, and all of image search, is in English is my 1st clue. Not tryna pass off anything as authentic or whatevs. Still, if nothing else, it’s still a pretty interesting remix 🙂
@Ouroboros
Dude. No. Why? Quit it. Controversial opinion mayhaps, but it’s really not a shame we’re not torturing people to death. But the fuck do I know, right? All the goddamn time with you. Calm your shit… ?
I am confused – I thought that ‘skag’ is slang for heroin?
Informal usage is “an unattractive woman. “
@ ellesar
There was a Radio 4 programme where they did ‘Trainspotting’ as if it was written by Nancy Mitford. I still remember the line:
“When shooting skag (one never calls it smack)…”
@Valentine,
That sounds really cool actually. Are you at sea right now?
Righties: “Women are supposed to be picky and selective because biology”
Also righties: “Wait why are women testing the waters and weighing up options now blaaaaaaargh”
Srsly fam
Skag is a sort of mutant dog in the Borderlands videogame franchise. I believe that’s whats being referred to here.
Half related to all that job talking : I have several friends who are currently in (relatively speaking) highly paid bullshit jobs, like writing security policy in banks. For some strange reasons, they all want to get out in order to do software engineering, both because the working environment is less toxic and because they think they will feel like they are doing something.
(one of them is rather obviously sliding into a depression ; around him we hope that we will be able to make him quit his job before it take hold)
I guess it is much less of a problem than actual poverty and actual unability to find a job. But the underlying problems that they are thousands of people who are paid mostly for doing nothing is a problem, both because they could do something productive like being artists, highly proficient player of whatever they fancy, counsellor, here to help their family or other things like that ; and because thoses workplaces tend to be super toxic, since in the end the only thing most of them have to do is office conspiracy.
The only thing that make me think it’s not something we should try to solve is that, currently, I think the society will explode because of poverty well before it explode from people feeling useless.
I also tend to be of the opinion that very few people are actually bad at math ; most have been teached badly and/or are victim of the reputations of mathematics. It’s really like cooking methink, as in something that come pretty fast once you stop being intimidated by it and actually need it.
(it is strange how the society simultaneously exalt people good at maths well over their values, and try its earnest to make people loathe mathematics. I suspect it’s partly a class mechanism)
It’s safe to say that Neo-Nazis wouldn’t be happy in any decade or century they were born in.
Viking women actually had more personal autonomy than most women in their time. Spartan women were brought up to be as physically capable as the men, and again, enjoyed more freedoms than many women in their times. While historians throughout the centuries may have deliberately written independent women out of history, that doesn’t mean they didn’t exist and weren’t always a big part of their cultures. (Same goes for LGBT people of course). Every culture Alt-Right guys love would be a disappointment to them.
Hell, they’d probably be disappointed by actual Nazi Germany. Hitler, Himmler and Goering would be the ultimate cucks to Bad-Ass Joe over here
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Re: employment.
I’m in the process of getting an AS degree, likely to go on to work on an engineering degree (civil engineering with a focus on sustainability, ooh la la). I don’t know if I’ll be able to “get a job” doing what I want to do, but I’m already networking and have a business plan that I regularly update. I may be dreaming, but fuck it, I’m dreaming big.
I thought I was bad at math too. Heavy anxiety, and it’s kind of ongoing. But youtube is full of people trying to explain it, and they never get impatient with you or roll their eyes because you asked a dumb question. Seriously, I just finished my first semester of calculus, and it did take me more time (I think) than my classmates to “get” everything, but I’m still leaving with a B. It’s hard but it really isn’t as insurmountable as you might expect. There are tutors who will help, too (though I have problems asking for help, and preferred to rely on khan academy and the ever-awesome youtube). Just being open to it, rather than telling myself over and over again that I was going to fail, that I sucked at math…that made a world of difference. Self-talk matters.
Ej – I suck at chemistry. Well, college chemistry. I can balance sugars and tannins, and turn whatever into something drinkable, tweak bread recipes so flour water yeast and salt turn into something edible. Get me in a chem lab and I’m lucky if I don’t set myself on fire.
I never know how I feel about people who say, “work hard and you’ll succeed” at one point I was working 3 jobs, going to college fulltime and still had to drop out when I lost my grant. Now I do contract work, go weeks without a day off and am just about comfortable.
(Happy thought, if we ever get basic income I’m going to spend my days baking bread and playing ukulele, maybe even run a small baking business. . .)
It’s more “work hard improve yours odds of succeeding”. And it forget “working hard include doing some networking and human work”.
Ohlmann:
My sweetheart has some of that around the office. She’s disgusted by it, but also tempted by the dark side. I keep arguing that it’s better in all respects to get fired from there having done a good job and actually helped the population, than to have become an ace at backstabbing her way to survival. She’s much more tempted by that view.
Ohlmann:
Indeed. There’s no guarantees, ever. Working hard is a necessary condition for success — but not a sufficient condition.