No one should be turning to the neo-Nazi online tabloid The Daily Stormer for dating advice, but on the off chance that you are, I have to warn you that they don’t know what they’re talking about.
I mean, they don’t know what they’re talking about when it comes to pretty much everything, but in this case their ignorance involves what actually went on in the supposed 1950s cultural paradise they want to return us to, forcibly if necessary.
In a post with the sarcastic title “Dating Advice: The Key to Good Relationships is Cheating on Your Boyfriends,” regular Daily Stormer contributor “Zeiger” takes aim at a “fat Paki skag” dating expert who has the temerity to argue that women searching for “the One” should date a bunch of guys casually before committing to one of them.
I know, shocking.
Well, it is to Zeiger.
Not so long ago, women didn’t feel like they needed dating advice. After all, they just had to stand around somewhere until a man came to them and took care of everything for them.
All they had to worry about was serving him beer and cooking his food right so he didn’t dump their ungrateful asses.
Zeiger illustrates this point with a magazine illustration from the 1950s depicting happy teenage girls learning to bake a cake, so it’s pretty clear what romanticized past Zeiger is harking back to.
Alas, we have fallen so far from this imaginary paradise!
But in the era of NUMALE faggots and Jew feminism, women are confused. They think it’s somehow their job to understand relationships. This is already a completely insane concept.
But it gets worse.
These days, they’re getting their relationship advice from insane Paki sluts.
The “Paki slut” in question is a “relationship coach” named Sami Wunder who was recently featured in the British tabloid The Express. Despite Zeiger’s headline, Wunder does not actually suggest that women cheat on their boyfriends. Rather, she recommends that women looking for a husband date multiple men, non-exclusively, holding off on serious committment until one of them pops the question.
Whatever you think of this advice, it’s hardly “cheating” to date more than one person when you’re not in an exclusive relationship, presuming everyone is on the up and up on this.
Zeiger is outraged by the very idea.
I guarantee that no real man would “put a ring” on the finger of some hoe who cheated on him with a bunch of other guys. A “man” so pussy-whipped would more appropriately be called a “humanoid slug.” …
What this shows is the urgent need women have for stable, healthy relationships. And that is something that can only be provided by WHITE SHARIA – not fat Paki whore dating advice.
Zeiger’s anger here seems to stem from the same mix of entitlement and insecurity that drives the alt-right obsession with “cucks” and “cucking.” These are men who, on some level, feel entitled to any attractive woman who wanders into their field of vision, and feel betrayed — even “cucked” — when any of these women date or marry or just have sex with some guy other than them.
But we’re not just entitlement we’re dealing with here. More than a few alt-rightist dudes — and manosphere dudes generally — fetishize nubile young virgins, not just because they’re creepy dudes who are way too into women and girls far too young for them, but because virgins have no way to compare their sexual prowess with other men. Many manosphere dudes are quite open about this anxiety, complaining that women who’ve been with more than one guy will endlessly compare them with their earlier partners.
These are the same guys who go around boasting about what “alphas” they are.
But there’s another giant irony in Zeiger’s piece: dating in the 1950s, at least at the start of the decade, looked a lot more like Wunder’s world than Zeigers in some crucial respects.
In the 40s and early 50s, teenagers were encouraged to “play the field,” casually dating an assortment of not-quite-steady partners rather than committing to a single person.
It wasn’t until later in the decade that teens began to shift en masse to the more familiar (to us, that is) strategy of “going steady.” And far from welcoming this new monogamy, many parents were horrified. Magazines at the time were filled with alarming articles on the supposedly grave dangers of going steady.
Here’s one from 1960 warning teens that going steady might be “too dangerous” for them.
Here’s one from 1957 examining the potential “immorality” of going steady.
And here’s a graphic from a pamphlet or magazine article from the era wondering when it was “too early” for teens to go steady.
And parents actually had some legitimate reasons to worry. On the one hand, they worried that teens who “went steady” without dating around first would settle down with the first person of the opposite sex who was nice to them, not realizing they could have done better.
On the other hand, they worried that teens who “went steady” would also end up going further sexually — which could lead, as sex often does, to pregnancy and too-early marriage. Indeed, the age of first marriage dropped precipitously in the 1950s as more teens married, helping to contribute to the spiraling divorce rates of the 1960s and 1970s as these too-hasty marriages fell apart.
It was kind of a screwed-up decade; happily, the sexual revolution of the 1960s convinced a hefty chunk of Americans young and old that 1) sex isn’t the end of the world and 2) it isn’t always such a great idea for teens to settle down forever with the very first person they have sex with.
The weird thing is that the 1950s parents, for all their faults, were more interested in girls and young women having choices than are the alt-rightists of today.
Parents in the 1950s worried that their daughters would end up getting too seriously involved with the wrong guys because they had no good basis for comparison.
Alt-rightists and manosphere dudes today are apparently afraid that no women will settle for them if they realize there are other men out there who aren’t, you know, reactionary racists who think women shouldn’t really be allowed to make their own decisions about anything.
I’m thinking they’re probably right to worry about this. And I’m glad.
ETA: You know what? Fuck it. Figure it out.
grr, the link didn’t work (in addition to messing up my you’re and your!):
@dreemr
I could name you a dozen people, just from my friends, who are diligent, clever, responsible, and mostl have college degrees who cannot make money, and are struggling in poverty. Myself included.
@Dalilama – yep. I stand corrected. They’re all doomed.
I have to agree with Dalilama. Just because you have things in order and have obvious personal qualities is not a guarantee that you’ll be able to take care of yourself.
Capitalism is about transferring assets from the hard working to the lazy, and it chooses who is in what group simply by what social class they’re born into.
I see. So those of us, who are not currently in poverty – even if we spent many years previously in poverty – are merely the lazy benefactors of our social class at birth. Good to know. Stellar stuff. Thanks so much.
@Francesca – hear that? Might as well not even try. It’s not like you ever needed the words of an obese, privileged, over-50 cis-het white woman, anyway (and that’s meant sincerely; I don’t know what I was thinking).
@Fran
Sorry to be such a downer, but the truth is, late stage capitalism is a terrible place to have to exist.
Seems like a growth industry these days…
… this part sounds nice.
(Sorry if that’s out of line )
@Franscesca
That sounded like an awe inspiring experience. I have not known anyone in my life who’s been involved in politics, much less get a positive reception from a crowd like that.
@Dalillama
At least it’s better to have your expectations set to realistic standards instead of letting people get their hopes up for things that aren’t going to be.
Once I was on a hike and having a conversation with a retired high-school English teacher. I did not know that the woman directly behind me (who I had known as a fellow hiker for some time) was a retired head of the math department at her local high school. I commented to the English teacher that one big thing that would improve the US education system tremendously would be to convince elementary school teachers not to be afraid of math. The former math teacher agreed with this emphatically. She told of visiting elementary schools in her district where all too often the teachers would put math last in the day in the hope that they would run out of time and not have to teach it that day.
Francesca, I don’t know you, but I can say without too much fear of being wrong that you are probably NOT inherently bad at math but you have been told that you are through your life and internalized the judgment. You then become afraid of math, and that makes it even harder to learn it. I have seen it happen too many times with pampered white kids, and I’m fairly sure black kids don’t have it better. Many elementary teachers are afraid of math, teach it poorly or not at all, and pass along the math anxiety, producing another generation of kids who hate and fear math, from which the next crew of elementary school teachers is drawn. Historically, girls (who of course become the majority of elementary school teachers) have been deliberately discouraged from trying to be good at math (which is, after all, the basis for STEM and its relatively good-paying jobs), but the idea that math is inordinately difficult is imposed on boys — particularly minority boys, I would think — as well.
I would be willing to bet that most of your math problem is the result of poor to non-existent teaching, and along the way “I really really suck at math” has become part of your self-image as a result. And this self-image is probably about 90% of your math problem.
There are no guarantees in life, but I would guess that if you took your math-anxiety bull by the horns you would have a good chance of conquering it and have a much better chance of reaching your life goals. Three of my four children have well-paying jobs, and all of those jobs require a lot of math. But I always expected them to be good at math and encouraged them.
re: employment
And I’m reminded why I’m concerned about being able to land and sustain a career past uni.
Yes, I got into a program that puts me into university early. Yes, I’m smart. Yes, I’m white and pass for cis female (vs. genderqueer AFAB person, which no small chunk of people have no idea what that means).
But even with that, I’m still concerned about being able to get a job beyond my part-time gig at a fast-food restaurant. I’m even more concerned about being able to live comfortably on the salary that would bring in. And I’m even more concerned about having a work environment that isn’t toxic–especially as I ideally would like to get into video game development, which…doesn’t necessarily bode well if I don’t want to face sexism–not to mention the fallout if my neuroatypicality isn’t accepted or at least tolerated.
And if Mango Mussolini drives us much further…the economy may no longer have room for games development, and I’ll be having a hard time scraping.
This for a person whose only immediately visible privilege donks are “visibly female” and “not conventionally attractive”.
I cannot hope to imagine what it would be like for someone with further donks on the scale.
But I can infer it sucks no small amount of ass.
Job Insecurity: It gets worse.
@numerobis: that’s really helpful, thanks! I’m particularly good at part a
Re possible careers: I have a friend who’s an animator; she gets paid very well, is never short of work (there’s always a movie coming up), and says there’s a huge demand for entry-level people. It’s much more of a ‘techie’ job than a lot of people realise (it’s all about learning some very complex software), but it might be an option to look into for people who like to draw, and like movies.
@Axecalibur thanks for posting that chart; it is a really helpful way of looking at job choices. At this point I have three of the four, which is probably all anyone can really expect.
Finally, I’ll share a personal opinion developed over 30+ years of working–a job is a job. If you’re getting paid, terrific. Most humans in our 10,000 year history of ‘civilisation’ haven’t really had the opportunity to think about whether the way they provide food, clothing and shelter for themselves and their families is in alignment with their unique personal gifts and meets their self-actualisation goals. We may be asking too much of ourselves to demand, or even expect, that it will.
http://thebemagazine.com/2015/03/the-do-what-you-love-myth-and-the-danger-it-poses/
Wait. . .did somebody say *waggles eyebrows* math?
I tutored math for years, no one is bad at math, there are only people bad at teaching math. Maybe you need something explained in a different way, or shown in a different way, games, metaphors, counting on your fingers and toes, drawing pictures, it’s ALL valid, it’s just a matter of finding out how YOU learn best.
*whispers* math is life.
@ GrumpyOld SocialJusticeMangina
Chinese Vietnamese here, can confirm this 100%.
Speaking of which, it took 60 straight days, but I finally got back to 74% completion of math on Khan Academy. Stupid site ate my account’s data so I had to do the whole thing over again. Oh well, I’m back at the high school level of math again. Now all I need to do is finish Algebra 2, Geometry, Trigonometry, Precalculus, Advanced Statistics and Probability, AP Calclulus’ AB & BC, Multivariable Calculus, Differential equations and Linear Algebra and I’ll finally have the skills necessary to pass the math classes I need in order to be allowed to transfer into a program with accounting job fairs and programs. That’s totally easy peezy. Heh heh, heh…
http://www.japanator.com/elephant//ul/21341-/squidep12-1-620x.jpg
1-2 hours a day, sometimes up to four hours a day. This better pay off in the end.
Actually I think this is the essay I was looking for:
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2014/01/do_what_you_love_love_what_you_do_an_omnipresent_mantra_that_s_bad_for_work.html
I’ve been to a lot of job interviews over the past year or so, and in most of them the adjective ‘passionate’ comes up. There are times when I’ve been passionate about a particular project I’m working on, and in general I know that my work benefits society, and that’s important to me–but let’s face it, interviewer, I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t need the money, and the most you can reasonably expect from me is that I’ll contribute my time, experience and expertise to doing as good a job as I can for you in exchange for that money. Don’t expect me to be ‘passionate’ on top of that.
@ CleverForAGirl I used to teach engineering, and had to deal with my share of math-phobes. I had a woman in one of my classes who showed an enormous aptitude for the work, but would curl up into a ball if I ever asked her to ‘do math’. I started shouting a simple word problem at her every time I saw her around campus; at first she’d just shout back ‘go away and leave me alone!!’ but by the end of the term she’d spend a couple of seconds solving the problem in her head, shout the answer back at me, and carry on.
So true.
So true.
I’m very fortunate that I enjoy maths. This may be due to privilege, or it may be because both my parents have maths degrees, or it may even be a reaction to the very physical brawn-over-brain environment in which I went to school. As such I totally agree, but I wouldn’t speak for everyone.
In my experience (pointing out privilege) and having watched a lot of my university friends who went into industry, I’d have to say that it’s definitely possible to make money in the current world, provided that you become part of the problem. If rich, powerful people can use your skillset to become richer or make their lives more pleasant, then they’ll reward you; if they can’t use your skillset then they have no need of you.
This may be why I find academia to be such a lovely warm fuzzy cocoon.
“Try to get yourself a bargain, girl
Don’t be sold on the very first one
Good-looking guys come a dime a dozen
Try to find you one who’s gonna give you true lovin’
Before you take a man and say I do, now
Make sure he’s in love with you, now
Make sure that his love is true, now
I hate to see you feeling sad and blue, now
My mama told me
You better shop around, aah-ha-ha
You better shop around.”
I was in my late 20s before I was willing to commit to an exclusive relationship with one man. And by that time I was an outlier, because the shift to “serial boyfriends” had taken hold pretty hard.
A quick read of some past WHTM articles should provide plenty of ideas for future career paths. Why, the opportunities in pharma shilling, crushing industry and professionally protesting have never been better, and Big Socialism (via its subsidiaries, Big Pharma, Big Climate and, uh, Big Soros) is always hiring and pays very well so I hear.
Failing that, if you’re lucky enough to present as a white female you can just sort of hang around and apparently a nice rich white guy will magically appear to make everything better, and then you can just kick him in the balls and the courts will give you all his money. Life couldn’t be easier!
Hey troubelle, what game engines do you work with? I’m trying to wrap my head around unity, but I don’t really have any ideas
@Fran
I agree with the comments that say “don’t do what you hate”, and “talk to one of those people who help figure this stuff out”.
Doctoring and lawyering and so on are expensive to get into, take a long time before you start earning real money, and are so stressful you sort of have to love it.
Truly, consider trades. I wish I had, and I’m a commercial lawyer.
O/T but I am feeling pretty damn chipper, my sister has done her bit to help prevent white genocide (so much sarcasm) by giving birth to another beautiful blonde haired, blue eyed boy. I’m going to go meet him in an hour or so, can’t wait!
I live in poverty due to being on disability. I have a flat of my own, eat what I like, buy comics when I want, me and my cat do OK.
EJ, when I used to tutor the learning disabled (math and sciences, some reading, some english) it was fucking magic. They were learning math, but I was learning to see it in the world around me, can you make a cup of tea? Ratios! Can you throw a ball at the wall and catch it when it returns? Physics and geometry, boom! Now I’m getting all sniffle-y about math again.
The mr is rather math-phobic, but he’s getting the hang of kitchen math, still looks at me funny when I break down recipes until they’re a collection of techniques and ratios.
@CleverForAGirl:
To me that’s the mark of a real physicist: seeing the mathematical patterns that lie underneath everything. If you can explain that to people, then I’m sure you’d be a great tutor.
Also, my sister has an apron that says “Cooking is Science For Hungry People.” My chemistry isn’t as good as hers, but then she’s a professional chemist and I’m not.