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/b/ ponders the ultimate creepy question: “Is having daughters the ultimate cuckoldry?”

Yep.

You may have seen a screenshot from the Anarcho_Capitalism subreddit making the rounds on Twitter, showing a post asking the supremely creepy question “Is having daughters the ultimate cuckoldry?”– and answering the question in the affirmative.

The post — apparently copied and pasted to r/Anarcho_Capitalism as a joke — seems to have originated on 4chan’s /b/, where it was evidently meant quite seriously.

Read on, if you think you’ll be able to stomach it:

Is having daughters the ultimate cuckoldry? I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a daughter. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years solely so she can go and get ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl - reading her stories at bedtime, making her go to sports practice, making sure she had a healthy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for the men that will eventually f*ck her in every hole. Raised the perfect girl? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way she grew up, who marries her. He gets to f*ck her tight p*ssy every night. He gets the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her. As a man who has a daughter, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a girl for another man to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically /b/
Ergh.

While the incest angle makes this one of the creepiest things I’ve read on the internet in some time, the logic here is more or less identical to that of every alt-right racist who rants about “white genocide” after seeing a white woman out walking with a black man.

It’s the same logic you hear from MGTOWs and Red Pillers and MRAs when they complain about allegedly post-wall thirtysomething women marrying “beta providers” after allegedly “giving away their best years” to the parade of alpha males who allegedly had sex with their younger, more attractive selves before they hit that dreaded “wall.”

These guys essentially feel that every “hot” woman’s body rightfully belongs to them — if not to them personally, then at least to men like them. Alt-right racists feel “cucked” when attractive white women date men of color. MGTOWs feel cucked when women date alleged alphas — even if the “cock carousel” that MGTOWs spend so much of their time grousing about is basically something they’ve cooked up in their own little heads.

Hell, some guys end up working themselves into a frenzy because women they’re actually dating have dated other men before. That’s right; even if they’re in a committed monogamous relationship with a woman they love, they still feel like they’re being continually “cucked” by all the men she dated in the past.

So, yeah, it only makes sense that some of these guys might decide that every man with daughters is getting cucked big league because fathers aren’t allowed to have sex with the young women they’ve provided for over the course of their first 18 years.

Even paraphrasing this “argument” makes me feel a bit unclean.

I can only hope that whoever posted the original /b/ post doesn’t actually have any daughters. Given that he’s posting on /b/ I think that’s a fairly safe assumption. Let’s just hope he never has any children at all. The world is screwed up enough as it is.

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Frogs Albatou
Frogs Albatou
3 years ago
Scolar Visari
Scolar Visari
3 years ago

@NickNameNick
Another reason I should not recommend Bioshock Infinite to the mentioned group, lest they take that self induced plot injury too far. In fact, I’m not sure if I should really be recommending anything to them at all that doesn’t involve profanities. Well, I take that back: ET for the Atari is something I might peddle to the altright out of grim amusement. I’m afraid they would like the world’s other objectively terrible games (Ride to Hell: Retribution, Duke Nukem Forever, etc.) for that to work.

@Bakunin
Oh I know! There are even anarcho-capitalists who very specifically despise Austrians (the school, not the country, save for Hitler) and neoliberals, which makes sense given the latter’s association with authoritarianism and the former’s allergy to math.

@Serebrianyi Golub
Different categories, though I will admit a lot of alleged x are x in name only. The alt-right in particular, fascists that they are, tend to vocally reject both socialism and capitalism as their predecessors did. In the process they often, like their predecessors, blame both on the Jews and their vast global conspiracy.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

@QuantumInc

If you’re truly delusional you could say that sex is a resource that get drained from a woman every time she touches a penis and then goes to improve the man.

Yeah, that does seem to be a belief.

It must be the theory behind Frank Sinatra’s outburst at female reporters in Australia who asked him questions he didn’t want to answer.

“I’ll give ya a quarter,” he famously offered.

Although Sinatra had a wonderful voice, he didn’t always class up a joint.

Andrew
Andrew
3 years ago

As the dad of a wonderful girl…I really want to punch this guy so much. I actually think I might if he said that in person, and I am not at all given to violence.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

@Andrew
And that’s why he’s Anonymous.

NickNameNick
NickNameNick
3 years ago

@Scolar Visari:

Another reason I should not recommend Bioshock Infinite to the mentioned group, lest they take that self induced plot injury too far. In fact, I’m not sure if I should really be recommending anything to them at all that doesn’t involve profanities. Well, I take that back: ET for the Atari is something I might peddle to the altright out of grim amusement. I’m afraid they would like the world’s other objectively terrible games (Ride to Hell: Retribution, Duke Nukem Forever, etc.) for that to work.

Heh. Love it…

😀

@Andrew:

I can’t blame you. I haven’t had kids yet, though I’d like to, and would very much like to have a daughter – so everything stated in that post was fucking grotesque to me.

As far as the whole “anarcho-capitalism” thing goes: I think the term is pretty much an oxymoron, given a component of anarchy is the rejection of hierarchies and capitalism seems to thrive on such to sustain itself. With how private corporations are often set up and how worshiped their upper management are among right-wing libertarians, calling it “anarchic” comes off like a sick joke.

It’s like someone calling themselves a “democratic fascist” to me…

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

@MrsObedMarsh,

YOU!!

*points finger dramatically*

😉

RosieLa
RosieLa
3 years ago

So…
What happens if the daughter has an upbringing like mine, and starts “having sex” at age seven? Is that still cuckoldry? Would the mtgow father still care about her?

Diptych
Diptych
3 years ago

Oh, also…

Plus Booker proclaims a moral false equivalency by claiming that Daisy Fitzroy is “just as bad” as Comstock.

At this point “actually both sides are bad” is the only uniting theme of the BioShock series. Everyone who cares about politics is evil, so whatever the government does, it’s best to just keep your head down and accept it, y’know!

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@Bat’leth

their first test run is on a serial rapist who attacked one of their number, to give him the equivalent of arousal-triggered myasthenia gravis dialed up to 11. It works

Interesting. It’s missing the intense squeamishness and persistent, hyperactive dread, but I’m about it! Now, I just need genetics degree… 🙂

Bina
3 years ago

@Lea:

Bina,
I think you’re right. Just like they like him because of his racism and misogyny, not dispite it, they admire that about him too. They wish they could be creeping in dressing rooms for teen beauty pageant contestants. They admire that he got away with rape and harassment. Of course they don’t draw the line at assaulting his own daughter. They don’t like him dispite the murmurs. They like him because of them. He is the smarmy, rich, abusive, rapist prick they wish they could be.

Bingo. And just to carry this ill-logic on their part to its logical end (if that makes any sense), I think they see incest and child sexual abuse as the “freedoms” that are their due as penis-bearing males. They’re big, sulky babies who can’t bear to hear the word NO, ever. Their politics, their economics, their sexual fantasies, all reflect this. They want there to be no limits to how much of an asshole you can be.

I say they can go ahead and do it to each other if they’re so inclined. On a desert island with all kinds of venomous crawlies, an active volcano, frequent cyclones, and no cover. With no women, no children, nothing. Just them, left to duke it out amongst themselves. They think that the “strong” will survive? Let’s see how they do in a truly libertarian cage match. Last one left gets a free boat ticket out, but only if he’s duly chastened.

Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@Diptych
You see if you give a black women power she’ll bring about the evils of communism and kill your children in front of you. But that’s okay that’s just an alternate timeline that Elizabeth literally doesn’t need to bother with. Oh and let’s not forget the fact that the Vox Populi basically validates Dewitt’s beliefs. Booker Dewitt is a Pinkerton Agent. Pinkerton Agents brutalize union workers on behalf of company overlords. By having the current despots be terrible people but also have the workers be the equivalent of other revolutions, you can make the reading that Pinkerton Agents were justified and that workers should be put down. “The current corporate system isn’t wrong, it was just handled by bad subjects and bad rulers.”

Fuck you Booker Dewitt. If this was American RailRoad Bioshock he’d be beating up Chinese workers. It’s okay the token sidechick’s timey wimey would say that they’d install a Red Dragon Regime and overthrow the US.

Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
3 years ago

I can’t even fathom a world where “having a daughter is automatic cuckoldry” makes sense.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
3 years ago

RosieLa
I’m so sorry that happened to you. You deserve all the hugs and kisses in the world.

Franscesca Torpedo
Franscesca Torpedo
3 years ago

@Oogly

I’m a black woman communist.

I AM LITERALLY THE ENEMY

Diptych
Diptych
3 years ago

Fuck you Booker Dewitt. If this was American RailRoad Bioshock he’d be beating up Chinese workers. It’s okay the token sidechick’s timey wimey would say that they’d install a Red Dragon Regime and overthrow the US.

Seriously. Oh, and speaking of Elizabeth, at least she’s a powerful and moderately interesting female character! And she’s got her own DLC! …where she’s stripped of her power, held captive and tortured by a powerful man, and then dies alone in order to set off the story of the protagonist of the original BioShock, AKA the World’s Blandest Man. Yaaaaay…

Bingo. And just to carry this ill-logic on their part to its logical end (if that makes any sense), I think they see incest and child sexual abuse as the “freedoms” that are their due as penis-bearing males. They’re big, sulky babies who can’t bear to hear the word NO, ever. Their politics, their economics, their sexual fantasies, all reflect this. They want there to be no limits to how much of an asshole you can be.

Yeah… this honestly seems to be it. They see anything stopping them from hurting others, not as protecting those others’ liberty, but as an unjustifiable restriction on their own.

Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@Diptych
Honestly I find Jack and Subject Delta tons more interesting an nuanced. At least with Subject Delta the entire metaphor boils down to “hey mate can you try being a good role model for your kid, it’d be really nice if you did.”

@Franscesca Torpedo
Would you mind telling me the name of the anime girl in your avi? I have an idea but I’m having trouble finding a good quality image of her.

Franscesca Torpedo
Franscesca Torpedo
3 years ago

@Oogly-senpai

I got her off the cover of one of my favorite Super Eurobeat albums, and unfortunately I don’t know her name. :C

Sorry.

You can have the full-size album art, though. I assume she’s a Race Queen of some sort.

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Ray of Rays
Ray of Rays
3 years ago

At this point “actually both sides are bad” is the only uniting theme of the BioShock series. Everyone who cares about politics is evil, so whatever the government does, it’s best to just keep your head down and accept it, y’know!

Oh god, so Bioshock turns into South Park?

I’ve only played the first game, but that was insufferable enough until the second half. If it gets worse in Infinite, I think I’ll stop after 2.

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@Oogly

She’s apparently from a game called Zenkoku Seifuku Bishoujo Grand Prix – Find Love, released in Japan only for the Sega Saturn in 1997. Her actual name I have not been able to learn, nor the nature of the game. It is described as a puzzle game, and may be pornographic in nature.

Francesca Torpedo
Francesca Torpedo
3 years ago

@Dalillama

Thanks!

That confirms my suspicions that she is probably a race queen.

Mortarius
Mortarius
3 years ago

I think people really take too shallow an interpretation of the Bioshock games. Bioshock as a series (at least 1 and infinite because 2 involved different creators) is not principally about the political fantasy realms they are set in.

Bioshock is unique in that the games are primarily about critiquing the interaction between a player and the writer of a game.

Hear me out. The other criticisms of Bioshock are pretty dead on, the politics of the worlds they are set in are pretty fucked and barely examined because they are mostly an excuse plot for the gameplay.

However (major spoilers) consider the first game, the true story is revealed halfway through and it’s a meta-story about how you, the player specifically, not the character, has been mind controlled by the writer of the game (represented by Atlas) to murder their way through the entire game because as a player you’re used to following objective markers around without questioning it (the objective markers were all set by Atlas asking “would you kindly?”). Bioshock’s gameplay gives you lots of choice on how to approach combat to help contrast and blind you to the fact that the writers lead you around by the nose and you never question it.

However the first game falls apart because it keeps going after this reveal and you supposedly “break” the mind control despite the player’s relationship to the objective marker remaining the same. They didn’t know how to end it properly and in interviews Levine mentioned that he regretted the back half of 1.

In Infinite they carry it off much better. At the end of the game Elizabeth regains her power and gets into a detailed meta-explanation of how the player had infinite worlds (infinite ways to approach the game and many combinations of different choices the player is offered in the playthrough) but still ended up in the same place.

The player is offered freedom in the game world but Infinite is making the point that no matter how much choice is offered within the game the writer still directly controls and corrals the player while maintaining a mere illusion of choice.

Infinite critiques the notion of choice and morality in games by asserting that the writer controls the player. Your choices don’t matter (none of the choices in this game change anything at all) because the writer decides what effect the choices have. Regardless of how you act as Booker at the end Elizabeth still strangles you to death for being an evil man.

Bioshock as a series is primarily a critique of the notion that videogames can offer meaningful choice in narrative. The player does not get to project their morality onto a character in the game world, rather the writer is projecting their morality onto the player’s actions.

Bioshock 1 says to you truthfully that everything you did, you did because we the writers told you to and you didn’t see anything wrong with that until we pointed that out.

Bioshock Infinite says even when we offer you choice as the player that is an illusion because the writer controls the story and not the player.

Sorry to go off on a long thing but I find it really interesting, if you think I’m way off think about whether or not the story of these games is
really about the ideologies represented. Andrew Ryan doesn’t try to tell you why Libertarianism is the bomb for most of the game, he asks you why you’re doing this?

Mortarius
Mortarius
3 years ago

Oh my god I’m so sorry I love Bioshock games too much and I went overboard.

Fabe
Fabe
3 years ago

I found a video of Zenkoku Seifuku Bishoujo Grand Prix – Find Love, on you tube,yup, its a porn game. A pretty soft core and pretty lame as well. looks like its just a bunch of super simplistic mini-games like sliding tile game and a memory game to unlock nude pics

Fabe
Fabe
3 years ago

@Mortarius

yeah about the only real choice you have in bioshock is whether to save or harvest the little sisters. I chose to save them.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

@RosieLa

So…
What happens if the daughter has an upbringing like mine, and starts “having sex” at age seven? Is that still cuckoldry? Would the mtgow father still care about her?

I’m so sorry to hear this. What a horror show.

Ignore Anonymous. He’s clearly desperate for attention and thinks he’s being edgy. He’s clueless about pain — other people’s pain and his own pain.

I hope that you’ve been able to come to some sort of peace with your past.

Franscesca Torpedo
Franscesca Torpedo
3 years ago

@Mortarius

And just like that I’m compelled to play Bioshock again.

I did not catch any of that, but now that you explained it to me, the whole story makes sense now!

I really actually thought it was just a stupid story about an underwater city and Ayn Rand’s ideology.

@RosieLa

I’m really sorry you had to endure such a horrible thing. You have my sympathies.

GrumpyOld SocialJusticeMangina
GrumpyOld SocialJusticeMangina
3 years ago

I’m wondering how magnificently the guy-in-the-OP’s head would explode if he raised his beautiful daughter and then she chose to “cuck” him with another woman instead of a man. I don’t think he has considered that possibility. (One of my two daughters is married to another woman, and MY head is still intact — though showing many signs of age.)

Ray of Rays
Ray of Rays
3 years ago

*Bioshock spoilers*

@ Mortarius

Bioshock 1 says to you truthfully that everything you did, you did because we the writers told you to and you didn’t see anything wrong with that until we pointed that out.

And that was why Bioshock 1 just flat-out didn’t work for me. I could understand manipulating Jack, in-game, since his personality and motivations are malleable until the very end…but if the writers really wanted to make a point of manipulating me as a player, they failed right out of the gate by giving me an objective I already wanted to accomplish. From that very first bathysphere ride, I wanted Andrew Ryan dead, and seeing his actions throughout the first half of the game continually reinforced that. The mind control twist was essentially meaningless (except as a way to piss me off, since that bastard stole my kill by using me as a suicide weapon; I’d already had a crossbow bolt prepared and everything); Atlas was already manipulating me via conventional dishonesty, but even when I became certain he was lying to me, we still had the same goal of Ryan’s death, so I chose to keep following orders. He knew Rapture better than I did, after all.

That said, nothing against you or anyone else for getting more out of the game than I did. I’ve just had people explain that game to me a lot more pretentiously than you did (usually by playing up the phrase “a man chooses, a slave obeys”), so I’m still working through residual irritation years later. I’m just more convinced that I’m the only person on the internet who preferred the second half of that game to the first.

Franscesca Torpedo
Franscesca Torpedo
3 years ago

@Grumpy

He would blame the Jews for brainwashing his daughter with LGBT nonsense.

Funny, I’m queer and trans and didn’t receive instruction from a Jewish person about these roles.

I feel cheated. They didn’t include me because I’m black, probably. [/s]

Ray of Rays
Ray of Rays
3 years ago

@ Franscesca Torpedo
@ Ooglyboggles

Oh, thanks to Dalil and Fabe, I think I found that character’s name. She’s Seina Hibino, and she’s from the fifth volume of original illustrations of Zenkoku Seifuku Bishoujo Grand Prix (if I’m reading the Japanese Wikipedia page right, the original works were basically CD illustration artbooks, that later got adapted into games).

comment image

Possibility, at least. All I found before that is that the artist who did your avatar was probably Kenichirou Katsura, who also did art for a bunch of 90s anime series.

happy cat
happy cat
3 years ago

It makes me think of this commercial. It has a nice ending actually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6F–rMzSGA

(if you don’t speak French, the girl says “bonne nuit papa” (good night dad))

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
3 years ago

I can only hope that whoever posted the original /b/ post doesn’t actually have any daughters. Given that he’s posting on /b/ I think that’s a fairly safe assumption.

I get the vibe that he never even thought about parenthood until it it randomly occurred to him that the generic sexy young woman he obsessively thinks about is some man’s daughter.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

Yeah, Anonymous, you’re LITERALLY THE VERY FIRST GUY to suggest that a father should sexually exploit his daughter.

NO ONE has ever thought of this before.

You are AN EDGY, GENIUS KIND OF GUY.

Okay, not no one. Some fathers have actually done this. And although we still live in a patriarchy, some of those fathers have gone to prison.

Father gets 1,503 years in prison for raping teenage daughter, longest sentence in Fresno history

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-fresno-rape-20161022-snap-story.html

Whoa! I see there’s a dude who’s possibly edgier than you. Maybe he’ll get probation after LITERALLY 1,000 YEARS IN PRISON.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

TW for extreme sexual abuse

Hey, Anonymous, it looks like this Austrian guy is on the same wavelength as you. He imprisoned his daughter as a sex slave in his basement for 24 years. She had seven children with him. What a scamp!

Ooh, bummer, he got life in prison.

I know, I know — what kind of patriarchy do we live in when a father goes to prison for first raising a daughter (time, energy, $$$$!!!) and then innocently sexually exploits her!

Josef Fritzl trial: ‘She spent the first five years entirely alone. He hardly ever spoke to her’
Elisabeth helped her father Josef fix the door on his new cellar – then her world went dark

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/mar/19/josef-fritzl-austria

TW for extreme sexual abuse

Wolverine's granddad (formerly Kevin)
Wolverine's granddad (formerly Kevin)
3 years ago

Oh man, the Mr Anonymous OP presents a worldview so messed up I am almost lost for words…is Josef Fritzl accessing the Internet from prison ?

Cinimon Danger (It's not my real name!)
Cinimon Danger (It's not my real name!)
3 years ago

This comes at a weird time, and I had to make my first comment. My older brother just plead guilty to raping his daughter since she was eight. I’m still in contact with him. The American prison system I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. And I wonder every time I write him a letter why I’m still doing it.

It turns out that the guy I grew up with, and idolized as a child is a monster.

@RosieLa,
Sorry to hear about your childhood. I hope it’s gotten better.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
3 years ago

I don’t think I’d trust the one who remained after ‘eliminating’ all the others on the island, libertarian-style. Not enough to let them come back, duly chastened or not.

Sally
3 years ago

This is simply objectification of women at work. And mras dare ask “what’s wrong with objectification tho?” Fucking dicks.

EJ (Marxist Jazz Weasel)

@Ray of Rays:

I’m just more convinced that I’m the only person on the internet who preferred the second half of that game to the first.

Until I read that, I thought I was the only person who felt that way.

To me, it’s a wonderful metaphor for just what revenge does to a person, and how much violence destroys its inflictor as well as its victim. It could almost be seen as a metaphorical dieselpunk deconstruction of stories like Liam Neeson’s Taken series.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
3 years ago

Anonymous fuckhead wrote:

…solely so she can go and get ravaged by another man.

[Emphasis mine]

From dictionary.com

ravage
verb
to work havoc upon; damage or mar by ravages

That this is the only way fuckhead can conceive of sex tells you everything you need to know about fuckhead.

…and even if fuckhead was too stupid not to realize he mean “ravish’ rather than ‘ravage,’ ravish still means rape.

Fuckhead.

BlackBloc
BlackBloc
3 years ago

Everyone therefore is cucking somebody else? Doesn’t that make the idea of cucking as an insult/idea/phenomena useless?

No. It’s about domination. To the minds that consider hierarchy not only inevitable but desirable, the fact that everyone is dominating someone else isn’t a problem. Being the dominant party is good, being the dominated one is bad.

I just want to mention that there are other anarchist schools than these libertarian jerks

They are no more anarchists than national socialists were socialists. It’s entryism.

Bina
3 years ago

@msexception:

I don’t think I’d trust the one who remained after ‘eliminating’ all the others on the island, libertarian-style. Not enough to let them come back, duly chastened or not.

But wait! There’s more. At the boat’s nearest port of call there’s a band of feminist stevedores waiting. And they’re all big, burly types. And very short-tempered. And they know who’s on that boat…

Bina
3 years ago

@Hippielady:

There is just so much grossness in that post, it’s like a sewage treatment plant exploded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAIpyUot0Kc

Seems kind of tame by comparison, but it can’t have smelled pleasant.

LindsayIrene, Rioting Werebonobo
LindsayIrene, Rioting Werebonobo
3 years ago

I don’t think I’d trust the one who remained after ‘eliminating’ all the others on the island, libertarian-style. Not enough to let them come back, duly chastened or not.

He doesn’t need to come back. He can rule his island kingdom while sitting on a throne made from the skulls of those he’s vanquished and gnawing on a seagull.

ScaredFrog
ScaredFrog
3 years ago

Spoilers for Bioshock Infinite, sorry, can’t find a way to talk around it

Re: Bioshock Infinite and a number of other games I’ve played in the last few years; I wish I had a little warning or that it felt like game developers took a little more care in putting me in the head, seeing through the eyes of a character, and then giving me an unavoidable death/acceptance of death/suicide ending as the only or even the “good” ending.

I dunno, everyone I’ve brought this up to has kind of sneered at it and said it was my issue, but it doesn’t seem unreasonable for someone who struggles with that kind of ideation to not want their brain suddenly bent in that direction. Goes for movies, too, to some extent, but I’ve gotten an even colder reception to that idea.

ETA: As I re-read, it kind of looks like I’m trying to re-invent trigger warnings, which obviously gets lots of pushback too, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at the reactions.

IgnoreSandra
IgnoreSandra
3 years ago

Josef Fritzl trial: ‘She spent the first five years entirely alone. He hardly ever spoke to her’
Elisabeth helped her father Josef fix the door on his new cellar – then her world went dark

Kat, I read your thing. I should have listened to the trigger warning. I’m gonna go cry for a bit.

RE: Bioshock

I honestly feel like one of the only people who simply wasn’t impressed with Bioshock. It made its point about the player being nothing more or less than a puppet in the most overdramatic scene possible, but it failed to properly capitalize on that, and without that scene the rest of the game is kinda…meh.

I preferred the way Fallout: NV dealt with this sort of thing in a DLC. The villain complains about how your pip-boy (The source of your quest marker) serves as a substitute for your brain, and the entire DLC gets really hard really quickly if all you do is follow the marker. Maybe my experience with Bioshock was ruined by looking into New Vegas’ commentary on this first? I dunno.

Note: I also played Spec Ops: The Line first, so I kinda don’t not think about a game’s plot while playing it first. That habit, if I ever had it, has been thoroughly burned out of me.

One thing I got on sale a long time ago and only just started playing is Far Cry 3. I’ve looked into the development and read a bit about the sort of deconstruction they were going for with it, but I’ve also read that nobody on the design team was in agreement about exactly what on earth they were making. And I’m already squicked out by the obvious racism. So far, I’m really not impressed.

And a game that came out a couple weeks ago, Expeditions: Viking, is notable to me for having a 50/50 ratio of men to women in basically all scenes and phases of the game. I like that and stuff.

Franscesca Torpedo
Franscesca Torpedo
3 years ago

@IgnoreSandra

I need a viking game with black people in it in my life.

IgnoreSandra
IgnoreSandra
3 years ago

@Francesca Torpedo

I need a viking game with black people in it in my life.

This isn’t that game, unfortunately. It’s like, I appreciate the gender inclusion, but there were obviously black people in europe at that point in history, and since the setting doesn’t specifically disallow it, the game should include them.

The same basic thing happens in the previous game by the same company, Expeditions: Conquistador, where despite having no excuse whatsoever this time, there are either no black people or there’s no possibility of recruiting black people. But still the gender equality.

Two steps forward, two steps back.