You may have seen a screenshot from the Anarcho_Capitalism subreddit making the rounds on Twitter, showing a post asking the supremely creepy question “Is having daughters the ultimate cuckoldry?”– and answering the question in the affirmative.
The post — apparently copied and pasted to r/Anarcho_Capitalism as a joke — seems to have originated on 4chan’s /b/, where it was evidently meant quite seriously.
Read on, if you think you’ll be able to stomach it:
While the incest angle makes this one of the creepiest things I’ve read on the internet in some time, the logic here is more or less identical to that of every alt-right racist who rants about “white genocide” after seeing a white woman out walking with a black man.
It’s the same logic you hear from MGTOWs and Red Pillers and MRAs when they complain about allegedly post-wall thirtysomething women marrying “beta providers” after allegedly “giving away their best years” to the parade of alpha males who allegedly had sex with their younger, more attractive selves before they hit that dreaded “wall.”
These guys essentially feel that every “hot” woman’s body rightfully belongs to them — if not to them personally, then at least to men like them. Alt-right racists feel “cucked” when attractive white women date men of color. MGTOWs feel cucked when women date alleged alphas — even if the “cock carousel” that MGTOWs spend so much of their time grousing about is basically something they’ve cooked up in their own little heads.
Hell, some guys end up working themselves into a frenzy because women they’re actually dating have dated other men before. That’s right; even if they’re in a committed monogamous relationship with a woman they love, they still feel like they’re being continually “cucked” by all the men she dated in the past.
So, yeah, it only makes sense that some of these guys might decide that every man with daughters is getting cucked big league because fathers aren’t allowed to have sex with the young women they’ve provided for over the course of their first 18 years.
Even paraphrasing this “argument” makes me feel a bit unclean.
I can only hope that whoever posted the original /b/ post doesn’t actually have any daughters. Given that he’s posting on /b/ I think that’s a fairly safe assumption. Let’s just hope he never has any children at all. The world is screwed up enough as it is.
… Aaaand I’m out. Peace.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/oh-shi.gif
Not enough ‘E’s and ‘W’s to cover these creeps! Excuse me while go *vomits like Sheila Hammond in the nearest trash can*
Definitely not the girl herself, right? Because she is a thing. Only men are “who”s, because only men are people. Women and girls are tools to be used by people.
hmmm… isn’t this ummm… “behavior”… what the guy in the white house was talkin’ about…?
I gotta go take a shower now….
What? No, just no!
It seems every single interaction with any woman (and now potentially their OWN DAUGHTERS) has to be transactional or they’re somehow having something taken away from them.
This is not how parenting works!
@Vanir85 and Ooglyboogles
Seconded.
@Eddie: Me too…shower, burn incense and look at cute animals…live and in pics.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/cb2113334392dc83e2c19342ddf39d18/tumblr_mz7rkjS7B81qdm5ngo1_250.gif
I always worry a little bit about the badger in that gif falling off the cliff at the end. But then again it’s probably not a big drop and badgers seem to be pretty much indestructable.
TW: for thinking like a disgusting MRA/MGTOW/other low-information bio-truther/also for incest and every other gross thing that comes up in this post.
Like most of their arguments, this one doesn’t even make sense within their own internal parameters.
The entire point of procreating is to pass on one’s genetic code, no? As that is the point, according to their own BIO-TROOFS, then of course simply siring a daughter is basically “job well done” and they need have nothing further to do with the offspring, correct? Their genetic code is out there in the world. If they want that code to survive, then they do all the story reading and feeding &c &c.
This is where their biological essentialism is tripping them up, because they’re stopping at “sex” when the end point isn’t sex itself but procreating. I suppose if they want to logick s’more they could go on to insist on purifying their genetic code by producing more offspring with their (barf) daughters, avoiding the ultimate cuck, but that isn’t a very viable reproductive strategy as it does result in increased mutations over time and generation of inbreeding. I don’t think it’s even done in the wild very often, although don’t quote me on that one, I am sure it is at least partially dependent upon the environmental niche in which the organism finds itself.
Ennyway, long gross post just to say: as usual, these dudes go a long way around to pervert even their own supposedly internal logic.
I second/third all the “Nope!” animal gifs. Also, you said it, Michelle!
@dreemr
Maybe they believe in the man-plants-a-seed-in-the-woman’s-womb model of human reproduction, so only male offspring lead to any long-term reproductive success. Or maybe they just use whatever biotruths are most convenient at any given time in order to justify whatever behaviour they want to engage in. One or the other.
dreemr – I am a biologist, and you are correct. Inbreeding is not common in the wild; even plants (even plants? What am I saying? I’m a Botanist!) have mechanisms for avoiding self-fertilization, since they often have their male and female reproductive structures on the same plant.
Business idea, to be sold alongside those snake oil testosterone products these fellows and Alex Jones listeners seem to like: an ancient Chinese herb that kills all your X sperm cells. I’m gonna be rich!!! I’ll call it Cuck-no-more.
Fuck this shit I’m out plays softly in the distance…….
@iknklast – your “even plants” remark made me actually laugh at my desk, and I’m not even a Botanist!
@Viscaria – yes of course, they just use whatever biotruths are most convenient and fell out of their butts most recently. It just – blech. I freely admit I do my fair share of decision-making based on gut feelings but logic is quite a useful tool and I hate seeing it so recklessly abused so often.
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Speaking as the eldest of three AFAB children:
My father supported Trump, and he still would take objection to this line of thought. (That said, my mother also supported Trump; and to be honest, I’m pretty sure she expects me to support her into old age.)
ETA: why is that phone at 17%
why you do
So, by this logic, he’s also cucking(? I’ve, no idea on the grammar for that) his girlfriend’s father? Everyone therefore is cucking somebody else? Doesn’t that make the idea of cucking as an insult/idea/phenomena useless?
Seriously, this sort of logic is what happens when you base your thinking on a horrible capitalist model of economics. Did anyone else here the story on NPR about how studying Economics makes you selfish?
“Social science research finds that students who are taught classical economics about how humans act in their rational self-interest, become more likely to act selfishly after learning those lessons.”
http://www.npr.org/2017/02/21/516375434/does-studying-economics-make-you-selfish
This calls for the strongest brain bleach I can think of–video of manul kittens.
https://youtu.be/soBYeKyUIPU
Yeah, I commented on this yesterday, and I’m still nauseated by it today.
Fucking creeps.
@RumiKumi – yes, yes, and yes, one would think so.
@Troubelle
I always have to kind of chuckle when I see a comment like this (I see them all the time on Facebook, being a middle-aged woman who talks to other middle-aged women all day at work). This seems to be something that REALLY makes some people terribly uncomfortable, when a phone gets down to a certainly level of charging.
Some of us, it doesn’t bother at all – I myself will use my phone right up until it goes black lol and then just shrug and plug it in.
I am not laughing AT you, please understand, I’m sure you can’t understand how in the world I can stand to let my phone charge dribble down to nothing, either. I just find it kind of funny in a cute kind of way, because when it bothers someone they almost can’t help but say something about it!
@ dreemr;
no, you’re conflating white supremacists with miggys… the “anti-white-genocide” bunch wants their gud wite jeenz out there in the breeding pool… miggys just wanna get their ends wet….
And suddenly, the /b/-turds’ fetish for Drumpf makes sense. They probably all think that he really HAS sexually abused Ivanka (I hope for her sake that he hasn’t), and they’re all grossly envious because hey, he’s the ultimate un-cuck? If that’s even a thing. (If it is, EWWWWWW.)
These guys really should never have sex with anything other than their own hands. And if their hands were sentient, I bet they’d get up and run away from them, too.
Actually, scratch that. These guys should all be stricken impotent. Permanently.
@Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie – you’re right, I am, but they do all seem to run together. Sigh.