The idea that women regularly use their sexual wiles to gain control over men has long been central to the Men’s Rights Movement.
In the seminal MRA tome The Myth of Male Power, Warren Farrell famously declared that secretaries have “miniskirt power, cleavage power and flirtation power” over their male bosses; the latest edition of his book features a shapely female posterior on the cover, sans clothing, to illustrate what he sees as the immense power women can exert over men with, well, their butts.
In the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, one Reddit MGTOW takes Farrell’s argument one sickening step further, seeming to suggest that women use this sexy power of theirs to “intice” [sic] men to, well, rape them.
As High-Fruit-Trinity sees it, women have
used men’s nature against them.
They called men pigs & date-rapists. But they were the CAUSE
Of male piggishness and … rape?
They have entire industries just for women to be more beautiful, inticing and sexy. They’re taught everything about manipulating men. Men aren’t taught anything.
Women got away with this because they are the perceived victims, and you shouldn’t blame the victim. So who do you blame?
I dunno, dude, when a man acts like a pig to women, I blame him. When a man rapes a woman, I blame him. Who do you blame, Mr. High-Fruit-Trinity? Do you actually see rape survivors as the real “CAUSE” of rape, and the rapists themselves as the victims?
Apparently so. In a followup comment in the thread, High-Fruit-Trinity approvingly quotes a comment from a Washington Post reader about a famous political sex scandal.
“let’s acknowledge that women also play a role in soliciting sexual attention. Think about John Edwards and Rielle Hunter and how all the blame is focused on Edwards. She could easily cry “sexual harrassment!” as a causative factor; why isn’t a charge of “sexual enticement” just as accurately applied to the situation? “
It’s a bizarre question to ask about Edwards and Hunter, given that no one was accusing Edwards of sexually harassing her; the two had a consensual affair. But MRAs and MGTOWs seem to have some trouble understanding the difference between sexual harassment and mutual sexual attraction, as well as between consensual sex and rape.
In any case, the logic here is pretty clear: in High-Fruit-Trinity’s mind, whenever a man harasses or rapes or does anything sexual to a woman that she doesn’t consent to, it’s her fault, not his, because she must have “enticed” him into doing it.
Basically, this is blame-the-victim on steroids. And yet another reason so many people wish that the so-called Men Going Their Own Way would indeed go wherever it is they are allegedly going, the further away from the rest of us the better.
Well, John. you’re a delightful(not actually delightful) bundle of complete nonsense, but this one bit where you neo-nazis keep showing their colours:
Hey “ladies,”
Fight the system by sitting down and keeping your pretty little mouths closed. You wouldn’t want to come off like an angry hambeast now, would you? Fight the system by complying with it. It’s the only way!
Never mind that I named myself after a fictional character who is the absolute epitome of the 1% I promise you that I am against the system.
I’d say “down with the man” to give myself even more anti-establishment street cred, but only hairy feminazis would say something misandrist like that.
Oh, and Muslims are evil.
Signed,
John Galt
Shouldn’t a guy calling himself John Galt be overjoyed at the existence of “the 1%,” ie a very small minority of the population that controls a vast segment of American society’s overall wealth? Aren’t they rich because they are the deserving, and don’t we know that they’re the deserving because they’re rich? Or is that not true, because JG isn’t one of the 1%, and as he knows he is most deserving at all, it stands to reason that the system is broken?
@Weirwood
I got really mad for a second when I saw the “Dear Ladies, shut up” line and then I saw it was you and promptly laughed.
I was all set to move into attack positions.
@AXE
You’re slaying them out here, my man.
Dear “John Galt”,
I cordially invite you to piss up a rope.
Signed,
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
Fran,
I’ve been reading this site too long and know how to sound like them. Not sure that’s a good thing.
So, went to “John Galt’s” MGTOW site, and perused a bit of their forums, and I love this post by “Spectator”:
Greetings and salutations community of MGTOW brothers, noobs, Vets, snobs, bobs, and general baisment bois.
Sgt. SmellyTampon here with an announcement: We have successfully penetrated the enemy and Special Ops CalicoPig (known elsewhere on this site as ChauvinistPig) is firmly entrenched as a member of good cunt standing inside a very popular a Feminist website. As Commander-in-Cunt, he will be reporting his findings from being embedded in a community of cunts (sorry bro, glad you are doing this instead of me because I can’t take the smell of old vag, sorry) to this thread for the dual purposes of 01 the lulz 02 the general education of the mgtow community via inside the hive vagina for research purposes. The website where he is now proceeding with covert ops will not be mentioned here, so do not ask as only I, smellytampon, CPig, and MG-Tower aka Cap’n Cat&Crunch will have access to that high level information. In the interim, please proceed normally with all other sectors of the MGTOW.com forums as you were before this covert ops was created and approved by VileLord, Keymaster, DocFenderson, and other high level MGTOW here. Be well brothers, and let the fun begin! Sgt. Tampon–OUT!
———–
Well, good luck with that, boys. ROTFLMFAO
Oh no, I’ve been found out!
@WeirwoodTreehugger
If I were a morally bankrupt person, I’d suggest you pretend to be a Red-Pill Woman and do youtube videos in which you proclaim how much you hate black people and women, using your insight into their concocted jargon, then rake in the dough from idiot migtoes.
Nothing is worth doing that, though.
Wait, is the John Galt who commented here the same one who does those hilariously bad memes? The ones with the dripping blood logo? Lol.
There’s a John Galt mememaker that makes them for AVfM, but hey, could be.
OTOH, so many Billy Badass Wannabes use the John Galt nom to signal their inherent worth.
Will this John Galt be more than a drive by troll? Find out next time on Dragonball Z
Sgt. SmellyTampon? Yeah. ‘Kay. I’m gonna start calling myself Major Tighty-Whiteys Skidmark or Colonel DickCheese.
Im actually going to back out of the room slowly on this one. I……i just……….i just cant even.
I came here for a laugh, but you people are just……..SCARY insane. I just dont even know where to start. Please leave me and the rest of normal, well adjusted society alone, and i promise ill do the same.
Im not even laughing anymore. You people are THAT. FAR. Gone.
@Secret Agent John Galt
I’ve been a feminist for a long time.
So I’ve got to know, what was feminism before it was co-opted?
Be specific.
When was it co-opted?
I’ll need dates.
Who did this?
Names, please.
And why?
Be specific. Provide details.
@PeeVee
Virtue signaling.
Side note, i just realized (by actually reading a bunch of replies to my post), that i apparently started a real shit storm in here. I can feel your hate, and its honestly unnerving. Whats it like to be so empty inside yet so massive in volume on the outside? Does dyeing your hair blue actually give you SJW superpowers? How well does George Soros pay you? And why, if your all such good people (can i say that?) arent you over in the Middle East, trying to “make things better” in a place that could really, REALLY use it? Because your here, doing and producing nothing while claiming you do something. Because outrage culture.
Ah, im kidding myself. I just HAVE to poke at the hornet’s nest, even if there is a possibility of being stung.
The amount of clinical insanity here is entertaining, but only in the same fashion as seeing a car accident. Maybe ill be back.
@John Galt
Can’t handle it, huh?
I would’ve thought that a guy who goes his own way so flagrantly that he eschews apostrophes and capitalization and uses MGTOW ellipses (eight hundred or so instead of the conventional three) would have the kind of SHARP MIND AND BULLETPROOF EGO it takes to deal with us.
Guess not, “John Galt.”
I’m starting to think that’s not your real name.
@Kat
Good shot, but if he provided you with any details, you’d disprove him in seconds. So he’s going to ignore you. Or maybe name-dropping Soros is his way of providing “proof” or “details”. If so, it’s neither of those things.
In his lazy way, he seems to think that as long as he isn’t disproven he’s listened to, but it’s the opposite. As long as he isn’t proven, he’s gonna be ignored. It’s the damnedest thing, how the burden of evidence works.
Actually, like i said, i really just came here to poke the hornet’s nest, to dip my toe in the predator infested waters of liberal hatred, for a laugh. I now realize it was a mistake.
So, if you want me gone, stop talking about me. Or just ignore me.
….id bet money you cant.
@John Galt
We don’t accept bitcoin or other forms of crypto currency fam
Please oh please John Galt.
Bedazzle us Mad Hornets
With your super mind.
John Galt isn’t just misogynistic, he’s also anti-semetic (MUH $ORO$ JOOISH SHEKELS) and ableist.
Hey, John, I’m a pansexual black transwoman, how does that make you feel?
Are you unable to cope?
He’s back!
I’m all aflutter.
Ladies, I don’t know about you, but I’m trying out various shades of mascara — black, extra black, navy blue — in hopes that he’ll notice me.
@Kat
Re ‘MGTOW ellipses’.
Terry Pratchett suggested that the following, in relation to magical herbs:
There are many different herbs but they fall into two main classes: the ones found in kitchens throughout the Multiverse (parsley, sage, basil and many others), and …herbs, with the pause and the italics either voiced or printed. These latter tend to be used by Witches and others of a magical bent for purposes other than aromatising dinner. The ellipsis and the italics add to the intrinsic power of the plant as an example of headology. A leaf may have some virtue of its own, but the knowledge that this is an …herb prescribed by a Witch, probably grown in a Witch’s garden (planted under a full moon and tended by trained worms), can multiply its efficacy.
(Except I can’t cut and paste the italics, but you get the gist).
I think John Galt might be trying something similar, especially with his last post:
…i’d bet money that you can’t.
So much more effective than using punctuation correctly! Feel the power! The magic is strong with this one!
The Blue Bird ! Oh, I’d forgotten about that! It was a seasonable staple on BBC1 (or was it ITV?) when I was a wee small chit of a thing. I adored it. Thank you for reminding me of that, Valentine. I’d almost thought it was some sort of fever dream I’d made up.