Never let anyone say that Men’s Rights Activists ignore the critical issues in our ongoing war between ladies and men. Like, for example, the burning issue of public bathroom yeast smearing.
And we’re not talking Fleishmann’s baking yeast either. We’re talking about yeast fromΒ down there. Smeared all over bathroom walls by the ickiest of girls.
You were not aware of this particular menace? This anonymous Men’s Rights subreddit comment with three hundred upvotes will put you straight!
How much yeast do these guys think these icky vagina ladies can grow in their icky vagina lady crevices anyway? Where exactly are they getting their information about vaginas?
Now, it’s true — or so say assorted former janitors posting on the internet — that public bathrooms can get nastier than most of us imagine, and that there’s a small minority of weirdos who do like to smear, er, stuff on the walls and do assorted other really gross things that unfortunate janitors have to clean up. But there’s no reason to think this sort of behavior is exclusive to one gender. Also, yeast infections don’t work like that.
While the yeast bit is new to me, this is hardly the first time I’ve seen internet misogynists get all worked up about the alleged behavior of allegedly gross ladies in public bathrooms. One sharp commenter in the Againstmensrights subreddit offers these thoughts on MRA’s ongoing preoccupation with this, er, issue.
Spoken like an icky girl!
H/T — Β r/badwomensanatomy, via r/againstmensrights
I remember in grad school, the custodians were having a problem with someone vomiting in the sink in the women’s bathroom.
They started leaving signs asking that people not vomit in the sinks.
Then they left bigger signs. And then more signs.
Then they taped flyers about resources on campus for eating disorders.
And that seems to have taken care of the matter. I always wondered if it was someone I knew. I hope they were able to get help.
@calmdown
The best things about those Alaska cruise ships (at least from my recollection from being dragged on one as a sullen teen) is that there’s so much going on inside, that there’s not a lot of people hanging out on the decks outside of the day at Glacier Bay. Take a nice warm jacket and you can probably find an outside place to be with yourself, if that appeals to you.
@Bina
I’m still purging myself of ableist language, myself, so I understand your feel.
It’s poisonous. I still catch myself reflexively thinking things like “Well, that’s pretty fucking insane,” very rarely.
It took a while before I stopped calling things retarded. I hold myself accountable, but there were a lot of people around me saying things like that.
I’m really glad the Internet made me aware of how awful it is to use words like that.
Boy, I’m sure glad that MRAs have better things to do than to actually help men and boys.
MRA 1: “Hey guys what should we talk about today? Racism? Homophobia? Transphobia? Toxic masculinity? Helping refugees and the homeless? Abuse? Addiction? Disabilities? Rape?”
MRA 2: “Nah! Let’s complain and bash women some more! We only bring up those problems when we want to silence those we hate!”
Also I used to be in maintaince at Walmart and I can tell ya from my experiences the bathrooms were pretty much the same. I can understand why a lot of the times women’s bathrooms were so gross because of bloody products and of course children are more likely to be with women than men. But one time in the men’s restroom some a-hole drew graffiti on the wall and busted a urinal, it sprayed all over the floor, made a huge puddle and it took every one in maintaince including me to clean it up.
CalmDown
I’m so sorry I wish I knew what to do and say but I want to let ya know we are here for ya and I understand. I have anxiety and depression. It’s hard for me to be happy and control my emotions. It’s not mental but physical. The nerves in the brain are not connecting. So have I been told. Sorry I’m not good at explaining. But I am happy when I draw, write, read, craft, look at cute pics of babies and animals, go outside, listen to the sound of the rain, etc. I hope it’ll get better for ya and don’t be scared to talk to us. We’ll be more than happy to listen.
Boy, I’m sure glad that MRAs have better things to do than to actually help men and boys.
MRA 1: “Hey guys what should we talk about today? Racism? Homophobia? Transphobia? Toxic masculinity? Helping refugees and the homeless? Abuse? Addiction? Disabilities? Rape?”
MRA 2: “Nah! Let’s complain and bash women some more! We only bring up those problems when we want to silence those we hate!”
Also yeast? What? Is it misandry now to read about body autonomy? I used to be in maintaince at Walmart and I can tell ya from my experiences the bathrooms were pretty much the same. I can understand why a lot of the times women’s bathrooms were so gross because of bloody products and of course children are more likely to be with women than men. But one time in the men’s restroom some a-hole drew graffiti on the wall and busted a urinal, it sprayed all over the floor, made a huge puddle and it took every one in maintaince including me to clean it up.
CalmDown
I’m so sorry I wish I knew what to do and say but I want to let ya know we are here for ya and I understand. I have anxiety and depression. It’s hard for me to be happy and control my emotions. It’s not mental but physical. The nerves in the brain are not connecting. So have I been told. Sorry I’m not good at explaining. But I am happy when I draw, write, read, craft, look at cute pics of babies and animals, go outside, listen to the sound of the rain, etc. I hope it’ll get better for ya and don’t be scared to talk to us. We’ll be more than happy to listen.
@Kat and also calmdown if your reading, no problem π the nurse who took my recent medical training was from cruise ships and their job is to make it as comfortable for passengers as possible. Feeling trapped is common like also seasickness. I suggest go right away to the nurse and ask for help, and take a friend or family memeber also for support.
I used to work in maintaince at Walmart and I can say from my experiences that the bathrooms are pretty much the same and I can understand why the women’s restrooms are gross because of bloody products and children would go in with the moms.
But there was this one time in the men’s restroom some a-hole drew graffiti on the wall and busted a urinal, the water sprayed, made a huge puddle and it took everyone in maintanice including me to clean it up.
Calm down
I’m so sorry I wish I knew what to say and do but I understand how you feel I have anxiety, depression and mental health problems and what helps me is that I like to find something that makes me happy like writing and crafting. Please don’t be scared to talk to us, we’ll be more than happy to listen to you. And I hope it’ll get better for you.
In my mind there’s really nothing that can beat poorly (or not-at-all) maintained wilderness toilets. From the port-a-potty at a remote boat launch that had poo stacked a good 5 inches above the seat, to the “toilet area” at an unsanctioned music festival that amounted to a raised and covered platform above flat ground with nowhere for the waste to inevitably go but horizontally, to the bug-coated pit toilet at a free campsite where the “janitorial services” consisted of a deck brush on a long stick.
That last one was probably the worst for me; it was open-air and relatively seldom used so the smell wasn’t bad, but the thought of exposing my sensitive bits to any sort of insect is wholly unacceptable. And given that the nearest real toilet would require packing up camp, hiking 90 minutes across the island, and calling a water taxi to pick me up, there wasn’t really any alternative to be considered.
Sister Bat’leth of Rational Discussion: what a lovely poem about the circle of life! Thank you π
As for not flushing: once in a rare while — maybe every other year — I forget to flush. I’m always dismayed when I discover my error.
Every other year, or about every 700 days.
So that means in a bathroom that gets 700 visitors like me every day, one person will, through inattention rather than malice, forget to flush.
@Eli:
Dang me, and whaddya know. Offering help works! Who’da thunk?
Oh yeah…someone who knows it’s not normal to puke in sinks, but doesn’t know what to do about it until someone else makes it clear that there’s someone around who can help them with that eating disorder. That’s who.
(Personally, I never vomit unless I have a terrible stomach bug. Last time I had Norwalk, I puked in my own bathroom sink, but only because I was afraid I’d miss the toilet bowl. It was further down, and I was horribly wonky as well as nauseated. I also didn’t want to risk falling and hitting my head and ending up concussed for the third time in my life.)
@dlouwe:
Holy crap. (Pun intended.) That’s so gross as to be downright impressive. I must now re-read my copy of How to Shit in the Woods, so I’m never stuck in such a deplorable situation, should I ever find myself stranded anywhere…
@Fran:
Same here. I don’t use the r-word because I know how it hurts to have it leveled at oneself, and I try to be judicious about “insane” and its synonyms as well, and not just spout them casually as substitutes for something else. It’s forced me to focus on saying what I mean, and choosing my metaphors better, even if it does feel pretty awkward at times.
@Eli: Physics Building?
@C.A.Collins
π
no, not even close.
Yes, I have to agree that in my nearly 50 years of using public toilets, including university toilets I have NEVER seen a bloody or faecal hand print EVER. There’s less graffiti now as well.
The closest I’ve ever seen to that description (if you exclude festival toilets because everyone knows how nasty they are) was at the hospital where I gave birth to my son. The government at the time thought they’d save the NHS money by employing private cleaning firms. But these cleaning firms had no experience of the hygiene standards expected and required in hospitals as they’d worked in offices. They just emptied waste paper bins and ran the hoover round. The problem in the toilets wasn’t deliberate smearing of bodily fluids, but failure to empty sanitary bins so they were overflowing. If you think about it, a lot of the festival toilets suffer from the same problem – high usage and poor maintenance.
The cleaning firms didn’t realise either that the yellow bio waste bags needed to be sealed. A sluice room door came open and the contents of two bags poured out into the hallway. It was beyond gross and left there for 6 hours until we cleaned it up ourselves. It was pretty risky as it contained blood, needles and other bodily fluids and this was 1989. But we felt we had no choice. Many of us ended up discharging ourselves early as well because the poor hygiene standards meant we all got infections. But there was no smearing of anything and you’d have to have thrush in order to have any yeast in the first place. Sorry to disappoint the MRAs, but this description of women’s toilets just sounds completely fictional.