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Women: Not to be trusted with big decisions like whether or not to have sex with disgusting woman-hating MGTOWs

It’s another lazy Friday on the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, and the fellas are talking about their awesome hobbies and the whitewater rafting trip a bunch of them organized together in Ariz …

Just kidding! MGTOWs can barely organize lunch for themselves. They’re ranting about how awful women are. In a post titled “Women are the epicentre of problems facing society,” a fellow calling himself Malahidael lays out his basic thesis:

I have been with my fair share of women,

I’m going to rate that claim “4 Pinnochios.”

I don’t see the appeal much anymore and I have a feeling most men share my thoughts. I’m reading these stories of women in power getting little to no reparations for their actions, like when that girlfriend murdered her boyfriend and the bitch walked away.

Ah, the famous case of State Vs. That Girlfriend!

Imagine this a women having complete political power of an entire county and a natural disaster or a situation that requires military action occurs the same time she is pregnant, ovulating, or even having “hot flashes” how can we be sure that each decision she makes is based purely on the benefit of the people not because of the flooding of hormones that can lead to rash decisions that gets millions killed.

Uh, dude, you do realize that the current inhabitant of the White House is more impulsive than a woman simultaneously experiencing pregnancy, ovulation, menopause, hysteria, wandering womb, dancing cervix, fallopian tubeworm, mammary foam, boob gout, the vapours, bicycle face, and lady ghostbusters?

I’m just tired of watching all this shit unfold… I can safely say with all this censorship going on as well that MGTOW will remain in the back of this 18 year olds mind till he dies.

I prefer to get most of my information about ladies from 18-year-old dudes who hate them.

A commenter called Helikzhan agrees that women aren’t worth the trouble. At least those women who aren’t simultaneously dogs and television sets.

Sex is all we were ever after. Aside from sex they are just other humans we have nothing in common with. Literally every other companion is better to have. Dog, roommate, online friends, etc. A TV is a better companion than a woman for the most part. Especially so that they don’t do anything other than pay half of the debt she runs up.

TV sets pay off your debts?

The issue is finding a sex alternative. That’s real easy today. No STIs required! No prostitutes. No handjobs while looking at porn (but you can do this, too). I prefer sex dolls but they are pricey. Trust me when I say to you they will fill a void you never imagined could be filled. Don’t underestimate the physical presence of a sex toy. Something to snuggle with, bang when you want, be a creep and talk to it if you please. It’s literally no different than the modern woman and will cost you a fraction of her cost.

The other great advantage of sex dolls is that they don’t run from you screaming.

As JFK7878 sees it, there have been only maybe two great women in all of history.

Women are too stupid to be that important. There were some great women in history like Marie Curie or Joanna Darc,

Er, Joan of Arc?

Women lack intelligence, critical thinking and imagination, they must be led

Who leads women now ? Owners of the media who push degeneracy on them from early age. If you put a woman a desert island for 20 years could she -by herself- grow into feministic cunt with tatooes ?

Only men, who can easily survive on nothing but raw seagulls, are suited to survival and self-tattooing on desert islands.

Look at amish women vs modern women and spot the difference.

Do MGTOWs have some sort of Amish fetish now?

The sick ideas are planted into women so dont get surprised nothing good grows out of them.

Modern woman is end product of ‘social architecs’. If men want better women they must take charge of media and social architecture.

Women control the media? I had no idea that Michael Bloomberg, Rupert Murdoch, Si Newhouse, Mort Zuckerman and Jeff Bezos were all women.

The things I learn from the MGTOW subreddit!

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Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
3 years ago

Oh, that was fun. Aren’t these chaps delightful? So articulate, so erudite, so grounded in the nitty-gritty realities of life. And positively brimming with useful advice for the modern man!

The issue is finding a sex alternative. That’s real easy today. No STIs required!

It’s a well-known fact that usually, having sex requires STIs. It’s a pre-condition. I generally stipulate that prospective partners bring at least two good quality infections.

Something to snuggle with, bang when you want, be a creep and talk to it if you please.

be a creep and talk to it if you please.

Easy pickings, I know, but it has entertained me immensely.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

Imagine this a women having complete political power of an entire county and a natural disaster or a situation that requires military action occurs the same time she is pregnant, ovulating, or even having “hot flashes” how can we be sure that each decision she makes is based purely on the benefit of the people not because of the flooding of hormones that can lead to rash decisions that gets millions killed.

I have literally been hearing this shit for years. Years.

And yet, all this little dweebelo can think with is his own hormones, and he’s going to wag his uneducated 18 year old finger at women everywhere?

And condemn women when we have got the most tantrum-throwing, thin-skinned, easily-offended POTUS ever??

Ha.

(I wonder if this post will net us another visit from the 329 year old Seagull Chef Engineer?)

Laugher at Bigots, Low-T Inbetweener Weener

I know it’s not the most grievous error they made, but “a women” really annoys me.

Haise, the husky puppy
Haise, the husky puppy
3 years ago

Imagine this a women having complete political power of an entire county and a natural disaster or a situation that requires military action…

Trump’s been in office for 100 days or so. In the white house. As POTUS. Can they just stop whining?

Give a mgtow his perfect utopia of sexbots, no real human women, all the money in the world and they’d still probably complain about women or blame them for something. Staying miserable in life is their only talent. Well, that and projection. :/

ChimericMind
ChimericMind
3 years ago

Women getting “little to no reparations for their actions”? Does he mean something like repercussions, or does he think people should be compensated for murder? Well, as much as he considers women “people” anyway. Perhaps she’s an assassin. Plot twist!

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
3 years ago

Channeling the spirit of Moonbase Alpha:

here comes another migtoe earthquake

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Iseult The Idle
Iseult The Idle
3 years ago

You know what brings on PMS? Testosterone levels out of sync as estrogen and progesterone levels dip.

It’s simplistic and unfair, but I’ve said it many times: women act like men three days out of the month and it’s a national tragedy.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Imagine this a women having complete political power of an entire county and a natural disaster or a situation that requires military action occurs the same time she is pregnant, ovulating, or even having “hot flashes” how can we be sure that each decision she makes is based purely on the benefit of the people not because of the flooding of hormones that can lead to rash decisions that gets millions killed.

Angela Merkel has been Chancellor for 12 years. Germany has yet to be washed away in a flood of estrogen. Although Germany under her administration has engaged in some of the same imperialistic behavior as the other most powerful nations have, I’m unaware of any apocalyptically rash decisions that her lady brain has made. A quick Google search tells me they have a 3.9% unemployment rate, which is a little lower than the US. I’m sure Germany won’t be a persuasive example to miggy toes because they’ll just wank about refugees, but the fact is, the country is in no way a smoking ruin.

I’m assuming this dude is an USian because he apparently thinks that because we’ve never had a female president that there have been no female heads of state anywhere. Other wise he wouldn’t be asking his brethren to imagine a female run nation. As usual manospherians fail both history and current events.

Women are too stupid to be that important. There were some great women in history like Marie Curie or Joanna Darc

I’m going to be exceedingly kind and assume his autocorrect changed Joan D’Arc to Joanna Darc. I love this though. It made me imagine a show in which Joan of Arc fakes her death, travels through time and lives in contemporary times under the pseudonym Joanna Darc. God gives her visions of demonically perpetrated crimes and she has to solve them. Along the way she makes some quirky friends who aid her in her mission and has some sexy love interests. It would be like a combo of Angel and Supernatural but with a female lead. Somebody make this happen!

Look at amish women vs modern women and spot the difference.

Have any of these MGTOW ever actually tried to convert to Amishism (don’t think that’s a word, but whatever)? I’m not sure if the community allows outsiders in or not, but if they do, I somehow doubt any of these guys are cut out for the lifestyle. No internet to whine on. No sex outside of marriage. No porn. No hope of sexbots. Getting up at sunrise to farm. No video games. I’m not saying I’m cut out for the lifestyle either, but if they’re going to complain that we non-Amish women are all uppity, they need to back their shit up and be willing to act like Amish men. Why would I agree to act like an Amish woman for them if they aren’t going to change too?

HeroBlue
HeroBlue
3 years ago

Snuggle with a sex doll…. What.

Forget it just being kind of sad, I can’t get past thinking that might feel a bit like snuggling with a dead person. *cringe*

theseventhguest
theseventhguest
3 years ago

off topic, but this seems like something that should be more widely available.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use-2/

iknklast
iknklast
3 years ago

WWTH: sounds like a great plot for my next play – if I had time to write it. Right now I’m working on President Stump and his secretary, Miss Pussy. With lots and lots of cats.

Otrame
Otrame
3 years ago

@ Iseult The Idle

Roughly 40 years ago R. A. Heinlein said it best:

“PMS is that time during a woman’s menstrual cycle when she behaves the way men behave all the time.”

I always said that is was funny because it was true. Now you tell me it really is true.

Learn something new every day.

brian
brian
3 years ago

maybe he meant “Joanna Dark” from the n64 (I think) game “Perfect Dark?”

also, dang, they’re right: That Girlfriend really SHOULD get *reparations* after murdering her boyfriend.

EverythingIsRidiculous
EverythingIsRidiculous
3 years ago

Time to start work on a romance novel. He was a whiny MGTOW who spent all his time masturbating angrily and complaining about imaginary women; she was an Amish girl with no computer. They never meet. Johanna, our Amish girl, lives happily ever after with some Amish guy called Ezekiel who is good at carpentry and can milk a cow, and is nice to her. Johanna and Ezekiel live happily ever after, and Jarred the MGTOW is completely irrelevant to them and to the story as a whole, and just carries on whining and masturbating angrily over feminists.

Orion
Orion
3 years ago

“I’m not sure if the [Amish] community allows outsiders in or not”

They do. They basically have to because there isn’t one Amish community, but many loosely connected ones, all of which routinely take in members of other communities.

I have a lot of beefs with the reality of the way the Amish raise their children, but I do respect some of the principles they allegedly value. One is that the children of Amish parents do not automatically become Amish or religiously bound by Amish rules. Only once they are adults (for certain values of adult) do they choose to join an Amish church and agree to abide by its rules. There are a surprising number of Amish communities all over the country and each one makes its own local decisions about what technology to use and how to interact with outsiders. At least some Amish teens (the ones I happened to meet) have the opportunity to shop around for an Amish community that suits them.

This can lead to some paradoxes. I talked to a guy who’d been raised in Ohio but recently joined a congregation in Tennessee. He preferred it to his birthplace in part because they took a harder line on technology and held stricter rules. He researched this decision in part by texting with pre-Amish kids in several states from a phone which he bought without his parents knowledge and disposed of when he formally joined his hardline church.

All of which is to say: yes, Amish churches have well-established procedures to induct new members and it is not unheard of for people who weren’t born Amish to join one.

epitome of incomprehensibility

Literally every other companion is better to have. Dog, roommate, online friends, etc.

So no roommates are women, and nobody online is a woman. Got it.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
3 years ago

@EOI

And bitches don’t exist, somehow.

brian
brian
3 years ago

you never heard the acronym “GIRL?”
GIRL = Guy In Real Life
there’s no “females” on the internet! don’t be silly. /sarcasm

Kendall
Kendall
3 years ago

Why do these guys always think their testosterone is constantly at an even level and NEVER fluctuates which could lead them to make poor decisions? >.<

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
3 years ago

@epitome,

Literally every other companion is better to have. Dog, roommate, online friends, etc.
So no roommates are women, and nobody online is a woman. Got it.

They’d probably draw the line at girl dogs, too. Or keep one solely so that they could make endless jokes about “bitches, amirite?”

OT, but folks might recall from the T-shirt thread that there’s an Int. Men’s Conference thingie happening here in Aust. One of the speakers is Bettina Arndt, long-time basher of feminists and women in general, and self-appointed champion of the poor menz. I just saw an interview with Arndt where she was asked about Macron’s marriage to an older woman (god knows why this was deemed newsworthy).

For some reason she took the opportunity to veer off into this:

http://i.imgur.com/GggYu6j.jpg

Men’s rights supporter claims that men who date single mums routinely abuse the children of these women.
Sure, the implication is that it’s ultimately women’s fault, but I’m used to that with Arndt.

Tosca, Chaos made Flesh
Tosca, Chaos made Flesh
3 years ago

It made me imagine a show in which Joan of Arc fakes her death, travels through time and lives in contemporary times under the pseudonym Joanna Darc. God gives her visions of demonically perpetrated crimes and she has to solve them. Along the way she makes some quirky friends who aid her in her mission and has some sexy love interests. It would be like a combo of Angel and Supernatural but with a female lead.

WOULD WATCH!!

Lea
Lea
3 years ago

At 18 he’s been with plenty of women?

His sex doll fills a void he never imagined could be filled?

He never watches porn?

Sure, kid. Pull the other one. It hath bells upon it.

He has nothing in common with other humans?

That one I believe.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

I have been with my fair share of women

His fair share, huh?

That would be zero.

I’m glad to know that life is finally fair.

faintingcouches
faintingcouches
3 years ago

It made me imagine a show in which Joan of Arc fakes her death, travels through time and lives in contemporary times under the pseudonym Joanna Darc. God gives her visions of demonically perpetrated crimes and she has to solve them. Along the way she makes some quirky friends who aid her in her mission and has some sexy love interests.

YESS! You must write this WWTH. Also, she has ‘hot flashes’ which must be some mystical super-power?

Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

Flashes definitions:

a. To cause (light) to appear suddenly or in intermittent bursts.
b. To cause to burst into flame.
c. To reflect (light).
d. To cause to reflect light from (a surface).

Any one of these sounds pretty cool. It’d be awesome to see Joanna get more and more creative with her powers to defeat seemingly insurmountable foes.

zesty
zesty
3 years ago

Your story idea about a modern demon-fighting Joan kind of reminds me of Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne. ^_^

Shaenon
3 years ago

It makes me legit sad when the guys spouting this dumbassery are so young. This kid’s probably never talked to an adult woman who’s not his mom. Damn, boy, don’t give up so easy! Also, if you talked to your mom more she could tell you that’s not how periods work.

EJ (Marxist Jazz Weasel)
EJ (Marxist Jazz Weasel)
3 years ago

The wisdom of young white guys is amazing. Is there anything that they can’t tell the rest of us about?

AliBoBali
AliBoBali
3 years ago

I was left with a fantasy about being a survivor woman on a “desert” island and getting to tattoo myself from head to toe. I think it could be fun, seriously.

Possible that I just need to go get skin decorating TATOOES all over! And go to the desert and pretend to be on “desert island.”
1) I like being feministic, and 2) having a cunt is rather fun. I’m game! Someone take me to desert island and I’ll self tattoo and make my own way. It sounds like paradise, really.

Andy Cooper
Andy Cooper
3 years ago

Christ, these idiotic kids are totally brainwashed by the misogynistic bilge they read online.

I too went through an adolescent ‘woe is me, will I ever snag a girlfriend’ phase. Like most teenage lads. But it didn’t lead to hating girls/women. I have to wonder though, if I’d been exposed to the same kind of crap that Boys (not men) Going Their Own Way are enthusiastically digesting, would it have had a similar effect on me? This was the late 80s, so there was no internet to speak of, no social media, and I spent female-free time reading/playing HeroQuest with equally nerdy friends. There certainly wasn’t a digital devil perched on my shoulder and whispering in my ear 24/7, that women have it in for me, and should be avoided at all cost.

I suppose the biggest difference I detect, is the sense of entitlement these kids have absorbed through ‘Men’s Rights’ activism online. They genuinely seem to believe girls should be handed to them on a plate, and when it doesn’t happen, they have a tantrum more befitting a three year old, than someone in their late teens or twenties.

The reality is that sexual frustration is part and parcel of becoming an adult male. You can’t have every girl you want, and you will suffer through unrequited love and a broken heart. Repeatedly. It’s all part of life’s rich tapestry.

So suck it up, and move on, gentlemen. Also, be nice, and don’t spend so much of your time absorbing crazy nonsense on the internet. Do that, and you actually have much more chance of ending up with a girl you actually like.

Andy Cooper
Andy Cooper
3 years ago

@Lea

The claim for a ‘fair number’ of sexual encounters by 18, sounds a lot like Alex Jones saying he was sleeping with college-age women by 15, and that by 16 he’d bedded 150 wimminz in total.

And yet…his followers still hang on his every word, bless ’em.

ALW
ALW
3 years ago

Andy Cooper:

The reality is that sexual frustration is part and parcel of becoming an adult male. You can’t have every girl you want, and you will suffer through unrequited love and a broken heart. Repeatedly. It’s all part of life’s rich tapestry.

Let me fix that for you:

The reality is that sexual frustration is part and parcel of becoming an adult human with sexual desire. You can’t have every person you want, and you will suffer through unrequited love and a broken heart. Repeatedly. It’s all part of life’s rich tapestry.

I appreciate the sentiment, but this idea that it’s only men who suffer sexual frustration, unrequited love and broken hearts is really frustrating and yet another symptom of a society which sees only men as fully formed people with the full range of human experience.

Andy Cooper
Andy Cooper
3 years ago

@ALW

Yep, it can equally be applied to women too. I certainly wasn’t trying to suggest that emotional/sexual turmoil in adolescence is confined to men. I merely aimed my thoughts at the hostile adolescent dingbats with very obvious issues. Who happen to be male.

epitome of incomprehensibility

And bitches don’t exist, somehow.

@Troubelle – Good point! At first I thought, “Hm, but those people call women ‘bitches’ all the time” until I realized you meant actual dogs. 🙂

Lone Galtian Bootstrapper
Lone Galtian Bootstrapper
3 years ago

Dear David, no matter how depressed reading WHTM sometimes makes me, this kind of remark

I’m going to rate that claim “4 Pinnochios.”

makes me come back time and time again. You are hilarious and I love a good laugh. 🙂

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
3 years ago

I can believe Malahidael has “been with” a few girls, not women. There’s a difference. I knew, when I was 18, I had a lot of growing up to do. Not anywhere as smart as Troubelle…but, you know what? I KNEW IT. I knew I had a lot to learn, and I still do.

About the Amish…there’s a small Amish community near where I live, in Pennsylvania. I see, and hear, their buggies every Sunday, on the way to religious services. If I’m out for a walk, I’ll give ’em a wave…they usually wave back. Their kids always wave back.

Amish contractors built my garage, and they did a very good job.

Abunga Is Among Ya
Abunga Is Among Ya
3 years ago

Go ahead, keep joking about the seagulls, Fartrelle. I can just see you, mincing around on a desert island, clamoring about in the wave-washed sands as you search in vain for you spectacles (invariably, as you cry “My glasses! My glasses! I can’t see without my glasses!”), while I am busy putting my skills to the test, procuring enough food to feed an entire feudal manor. You’ll fix your bewildered gaze on whatever shapes your blurred vision has conjured before you, nostrils pointed towards the sun as you take in the aroma of whatever I’m cooking, and as the salt glistens in your stringy hair, you’ll peckishly impart that you are hungry and that I am being ableist by not keeping you afloat. It will all be for naught, Dave. There won’t be any welfare offices or administrative bodies to take what I make and hand it to you. You can’t eat a blog, and on a dessert island, you won’t even be able to blog. I’m sure you would if you could; you’d say something derisive about my character, provide things that I might have said to you on this island to your insipid readers (without context, in keeping with your character, of course), and you would clamor for donations like a dog for a biscuit as you wax on about the emotional trauma of having to share an island with me, but it won’t matter; you can’t eat donations, either, and islands do not have mailboxes. If you had to share an island with me, Dave, you would submerge the island with your tears.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

You can’t eat a blog, and on a dessert island, you won’t even be able to blog.

I’m pretty sure that Dessert Island has cake.

eta: now I’m imagining Miggy bouncing around Dessert Island trying to hunt wild cake with a crude spear while David picks pie off the trees.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
3 years ago

Go ahead, keep joking about the seagulls, Fartrelle.

And with this, he finally admits that he’s Miggy, who in turn admitted that he’s Mark Minter. Told ya. =P

Abunga Is Among Ya
Abunga Is Among Ya
3 years ago

@SFHC

I AM NOT MARK MINTER.

Where did I ever say or imply that I am/was Mark Minter? Prove that I’m Mark Minter. Did Mark say that he was me? If so, I demand that you ignore him. He is not me, and I have NEVER used the name Mark (or Minter) on this website before (or ANYWHERE on the internet).

I AM NOT MARK MINTER.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

Hey, Miggy. I’m menstruating right now.

I’m in my 40s and my periods have gotten a little weird. They start out brown and stringy, and then progress to brilliant red, like the kind of red you might find in food coloring. If I’d bled like this when I was a teenager I would have been really terrified of it.

Yesterday while I was walking downtown I suddenly switched from brown-stringy to bright-red (they feel different) and I was afraid I was leaking through my jeans. I wasn’t, but I was kind of alarmed there until I got home and could check.

Thought you’d be interested.

Makroth - wild west firecracker window-smashing soap-averse unionized cowboy Jacobin from Hell
Makroth - wild west firecracker window-smashing soap-averse unionized cowboy Jacobin from Hell
3 years ago

@Fungus among us

Keep fantasizing, loser!

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

Where does the term ‘desert island’ come from? Presumably it’s not desert in the ‘no precipitation’ sense. They’re usually envisaged with at least a palm tree or two.

I’m speculating that it’s short for ‘deserted’ but does anyone actually know?

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ abunga

Hi. I don’t know if you saw some questions I posed for you back on the previous thread. As mentioned there I’m honestly interested in getting your take on the points mentioned. You’re obviously under no obligation to assist; but if you could I would be genuinely grateful.

Abunga Is Among Ya
Abunga Is Among Ya
3 years ago

@Policy of Menses

You are disgusting. I am still left wondering, what, exactly, makes you people think that public locations are the places for you weirdos to discuss your bodily fluids? I don’t care if it’s natural, I don’t discuss my poop in public, yet you people think that you’re “oppressed” just because you can’t rattle on about your bleeding cock pockets. You make it sound like you’ve got minced barbecue in your underpants.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

You make it sound like you’ve got minced barbecue in your underpants.

How are you so sure that I don’t? Have you checked?

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
3 years ago

@Abunga Is Among Ya

I’ve been enjoying your posts, and I admire your way with words. Love, love, LOVE your user name!

I’m pushing 50, and it’s either feast or famine, with my periods. I woke up in a pool of my own blood a few months ago. Bled thru my tampon, nightie, undies, bedsheet, and mattress pad. Why are periods so heavy at night?

cornychips
cornychips
3 years ago

@abunga

Hey brah, I just came out of lurking just for you!

I wanted you to know that I decided to donate a shit ton of money to David the blogger, in your honor! !!! You trolls are great inspiration for opening up my wallet to good causes! Thanks so much!!!

Also, I have an iud. So my periods are only about four hours long. So my flow is the dark stringy kind. Hope this helps!

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
3 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw

I don’t know; that’s a good question…I think it has to be a shortening of “deserted island”.

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