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Women: Not to be trusted with big decisions like whether or not to have sex with disgusting woman-hating MGTOWs

It’s another lazy Friday on the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, and the fellas are talking about their awesome hobbies and the whitewater rafting trip a bunch of them organized together in Ariz …

Just kidding! MGTOWs can barely organize lunch for themselves. They’re ranting about how awful women are. In a post titled “Women are the epicentre of problems facing society,” a fellow calling himself Malahidael lays out his basic thesis:

I have been with my fair share of women,

I’m going to rate that claim “4 Pinnochios.”

I don’t see the appeal much anymore and I have a feeling most men share my thoughts. I’m reading these stories of women in power getting little to no reparations for their actions, like when that girlfriend murdered her boyfriend and the bitch walked away.

Ah, the famous case of State Vs. That Girlfriend!

Imagine this a women having complete political power of an entire county and a natural disaster or a situation that requires military action occurs the same time she is pregnant, ovulating, or even having “hot flashes” how can we be sure that each decision she makes is based purely on the benefit of the people not because of the flooding of hormones that can lead to rash decisions that gets millions killed.

Uh, dude, you do realize that the current inhabitant of the White House is more impulsive than a woman simultaneously experiencing pregnancy, ovulation, menopause, hysteria, wandering womb, dancing cervix, fallopian tubeworm, mammary foam, boob gout, the vapours, bicycle face, and lady ghostbusters?

I’m just tired of watching all this shit unfold… I can safely say with all this censorship going on as well that MGTOW will remain in the back of this 18 year olds mind till he dies.

I prefer to get most of my information about ladies from 18-year-old dudes who hate them.

A commenter called Helikzhan agrees that women aren’t worth the trouble. At least those women who aren’t simultaneously dogs and television sets.

Sex is all we were ever after. Aside from sex they are just other humans we have nothing in common with. Literally every other companion is better to have. Dog, roommate, online friends, etc. A TV is a better companion than a woman for the most part. Especially so that they don’t do anything other than pay half of the debt she runs up.

TV sets pay off your debts?

The issue is finding a sex alternative. That’s real easy today. No STIs required! No prostitutes. No handjobs while looking at porn (but you can do this, too). I prefer sex dolls but they are pricey. Trust me when I say to you they will fill a void you never imagined could be filled. Don’t underestimate the physical presence of a sex toy. Something to snuggle with, bang when you want, be a creep and talk to it if you please. It’s literally no different than the modern woman and will cost you a fraction of her cost.

The other great advantage of sex dolls is that they don’t run from you screaming.

As JFK7878 sees it, there have been only maybe two great women in all of history.

Women are too stupid to be that important. There were some great women in history like Marie Curie or Joanna Darc,

Er, Joan of Arc?

Women lack intelligence, critical thinking and imagination, they must be led

Who leads women now ? Owners of the media who push degeneracy on them from early age. If you put a woman a desert island for 20 years could she -by herself- grow into feministic cunt with tatooes ?

Only men, who can easily survive on nothing but raw seagulls, are suited to survival and self-tattooing on desert islands.

Look at amish women vs modern women and spot the difference.

Do MGTOWs have some sort of Amish fetish now?

The sick ideas are planted into women so dont get surprised nothing good grows out of them.

Modern woman is end product of ‘social architecs’. If men want better women they must take charge of media and social architecture.

Women control the media? I had no idea that Michael Bloomberg, Rupert Murdoch, Si Newhouse, Mort Zuckerman and Jeff Bezos were all women.

The things I learn from the MGTOW subreddit!

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Darius Quebec
Darius Quebec
3 years ago

opposablethumbs, dreemr, Alan, thanks for the welcome. I am prone to horrible anxiety that I will accidentally give off a whiff of eau de seagull or something so thanks for being nice.

Alan, thanks also for the recc. That sounds like something I would be fascinated by, I shall look it up when I get the chance.

NickNameNick
NickNameNick
3 years ago

@Darius Quebec:

Welcome to the blog and, don’t worry, as far as first posts go – you’re golden.

What you brought up struck a chord with me because, these days, I’ve been having a bit of a problem with individuality – not so much the concept itself as the way it often enables so much solipsistic, egocentric behavior among many of those in the West (same goes for free speech as well). It seems less about acknowledging and tolerating/accepting those with different lifestyles than your own, which is incredibly beneficial, than it is conflating personal opinion with objective fact and assuming everyone else is either wrong or “doesn’t get” you. These MGTOWs encapsulate that perfectly and it’s woeful that anyone thinks that way.

Especially as a citizen of the United States, I really wish we were so hostile to anything even slightly collectivist in nature and maybe considered it. Instead, we’re so obsessed with being more unique than anyone else that we’ve become pointlessly contrarian – the fact we still don’t have single-payer healthcare, despite how well it has worked elsewhere, bugs the ever-living shit out of me.

@Alan:

I get having preferences, but there are some people who become a bit too single-minded to my chagrin.

A friend of mine, for example, seems perfectly content to just watch movies and series which has caused some contention between us in the past. He was always hesitant to go to an art museum or a concert or a number of other things that didn’t involve sitting down and watching moving pictures, which got on my nerves and almost ruined both film and serials for me.

A more obvious example would be certain forms of fandom, such as “Gamers” (not simply gamers) or comicbook fans, as I find both groups a bit too obsessed with their particular artistic medium of choice. Their lack of interest in other forms of Art practically enrages me, moreso when they demand others take their chosen medium more seriously – then subsequently get hostile towards them doing exactly that. They want people to adulate videogames and comics, but not to think critically of them, and I find such a notion unbearably childish.

@Paradoxy:

Is “Harold” in reference to anything or do you just like that name?

Franscesca Torpedo
Franscesca Torpedo
3 years ago

@Nick

[thunderous applause]

I’m right there with you. In the wake of Gawd-Emprah Fullofshiticus’s Ascension, I threw aside any lingering delusion I might have had that socialism and collectivism was a bad thing and fully embraced it.

IgnoreSandra
IgnoreSandra
3 years ago

@NickNameNick:

A more obvious example would be certain forms of fandom, such as “Gamers” (not simply gamers) or comicbook fans, as I find both groups a bit too obsessed with their particular artistic medium of choice. Their lack of interest in other forms of Art practically enrages me, moreso when they demand others take their chosen medium more seriously – then subsequently get hostile towards them doing exactly that. They want people to adulate videogames and comics, but not to think critically of them, and I find such a notion unbearably childish.

As a woman with aspergers, part of my life is focusing on video games to the exclusion of some other things. I have little patience for most paintings, and nearly all poetry, and sculptures, and a number of other things. I like books and films too, but to a lesser extent. Video games are just one of my personal literal obsessions.

Why should my disinterest in paintings enrage you? Colors and blending and stylistic choices are valuable aspects, but I’m actually interested in how a lot of these things apply to video games.

I definitely hear you on the last bit, though my issues are more with the gamers who insist gaming should NEVER be taken seriously enough to be criticized, or that the only criticism of games that exist should be ones from a misogynist perspective or some such.

@Larger conversation:

I was a socialist before Obama was elected. I’m a lot further left now.

NickNameNick
NickNameNick
3 years ago

@IgnoreSandra:

I’m on the high-functioning side of the autism spectrum, myself – my obsession tends to just involve Art in general than any particular form of it.

Why should my disinterest in paintings enrage you? Colors and blending and stylistic choices are valuable aspects, but I’m actually interested in how a lot of these things apply to video games.

Because Art influences Art – videogames certainly take a lot of cues from other passive forms of entertainment such as film and television. To act as if they’re all completely separate entities that function in a vacuum is to reject how Art functions as an aspect of culture.

I also think I made it clear my problem isn’t with individuals like yourself or Alan, who are able to admit they just have certain preferences, but of people who become hostile at videogames being treated as Art by others due to personalizing their obsession and seeing all criticism as a personal attack.

I’ve come across too many Gamers who, though no one is forcing them to read or watch such, can’t stand the notion of someone viewing their favorite videogame critically and bring up issues such as racism or sexism in relation to the narrative. As someone who wanted others to take videogames and comics as seriously as one would a stage production or paintings or novels or cinema, as well as knowing others who wanted the same thing (at least at one point), it’s kind of embarrassing to see Gamers and comicbook fanboys flip out the moment someone makes an article explaining why the “damsels in distress” trope has sexist implications or how over-sexualized female characters are on comicbook covers.

You just like to play videogames and don’t want to think about them too much outside of how fun they are? More power to you. But I find it intolerable when, say, Carolyn Petite – despite giving it an overall positive review – has a bunch of hateful garbage spewed at her for having the gall to point out GTAV has some rather misogynistic elements. It’s almost like how Parker Malloy talked about how much she liked the first season of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt but everyone ignored that and got petulant over her bringing up how lazy the Asian jokes were.

IgnoreSandra
IgnoreSandra
3 years ago

Because Art influences Art – videogames certainly take a lot of cues from other passive forms of entertainment such as film and television. To act as if they’re all completely separate entities that function in a vacuum is to reject how Art functions as an aspect of culture.

They certainly do. And not just the games that are more or less just tie-ins to a specific television franchise. References to everything from Monty Python to Dr. Who to Buck Rodgers, and similar artistic styles, show up in video games. Some games are even explicitly inspired by books or movies or still images without copying the source material.

I also think I made it clear my problem isn’t with individuals like yourself or Alan, who are able to admit they just have certain preferences, but of people who become hostile at videogames being treated as Art by others due to personalizing their obsession and seeing all criticism as a personal attack.

Yeah. There’s a lot of problems with that. There’s a recent, like, came out in the last week or so, game I’m playing called “Expeditions: Viking”. And some misogynists whined ad nauseum that a mandatory companion (At least for the first act) is a *gasp* woman. Like, there’s no reason to get upset about a game representing women evenly unless by comparison that highlights a glaring deficiency in the games one usually plays, or a glaring discrepancy in ones moral code.

At least two people went so far as to literally offer her up as a human sacrifice when given the first opportunity. When the alternative was a fairly easy fight.

This mirrors the way the previous game, Expeditions: Conquistador, treated women. About half of all characters were women, and the game didn’t spare any time for serious misogyny. Misogynists complained then too. Both games comment on the general state of gaming just by how evenly they portray the sexes, and both are far better games for it.

it’s kind of embarrassing to see Gamers and comicbook fanboys flip out the moment someone makes an article explaining why the “damsels in distress” trope has sexist implications

I disagree that it’s embarrassing. I consider it treasonous to gaming as a concept. There are quite a few games that are already worth taking super seriously, and gaming has the potential to both be mindless fun and an experience that will shake you to your soul and give you another way to consider and view life. Maybe treasonous is the wrong word, but I feel very strongly about gaming’s potential and worth, and part of developing that worth is embracing the concept of meaningful criticism.

Note that most gaming reviews are not meaningful criticism – just bullshit and hype.

But I find it intolerable when, say, Carolyn Petite – despite giving it an overall positive review – has a bunch of hateful garbage spewed at her for having the gall to point out GTAV has some rather misogynistic elements.

As I recall, she gave it a nine. Out of ten, on the numerical scale reviewers insist on applying even though it doesn’t make a great deal of sense. It is unacceptable. It’s unacceptable for people to think someone else’s perspective on their media is a cause for harassment or necessarily wrong.

I noticed that in every single one of Anita Sarkeesian’s videos, she prefaced with something like “Just because media is problematic doesn’t mean we can’t or shouldn’t enjoy it. But we should be aware of these tropes and how they function.” and still people harassed her. Kinda like how if I go “Some men suck” douchebags still come in and go “Not all men”.

NickNameNick
NickNameNick
3 years ago

@IgnoreSandra:

I disagree that it’s embarrassing. I consider it treasonous to gaming as a concept. There are quite a few games that are already worth taking super seriously, and gaming has the potential to both be mindless fun and an experience that will shake you to your soul and give you another way to consider and view life. Maybe treasonous is the wrong word, but I feel very strongly about gaming’s potential and worth, and part of developing that worth is embracing the concept of meaningful criticism.

Nah, “treasonous” is as good a word to describe it – because I absolutely agree.

When considering the storytelling potential, videogames have a ton due to their interactive nature. It’s why it bothers me so much when I come across many self-professed Gamers (which, again, I do differentiate from just plain “gamers”) are a bit too fixated on the mechanistic or technological aspects to the exclusion of everything else. It’s like finding out someone only watches movies for the costume design or listens to music for a specific note and nothing else. There’s so many games that, without an interest story or characters or setting or mythos, are kind of boring regardless of how good the graphics or gameplay alone may be.

I mean, neither LISA: The Painful RPG or Dropsy were all that polished as games but they had so much personality otherwise that it made them a lot more memorable to me than, say, New Doom (I play FPSes, but they’re generally my least favorite kind of videogame – the first F.E.A.R. is a favorite of mine though).

As I recall, she gave it a nine. Out of ten, on the numerical scale reviewers insist on applying even though it doesn’t make a great deal of sense.

Yeah, I’m not fond of review scores either – especially because I take issue with trying to quantify what is qualitative. I don’t think giving something a “3-out-of-5” actually does justice to a more nuanced opinion. People see that rating and the impression they get is that it’s mediocre, disregarding any positive qualities that might be stated in the review itself. It’s easier for them to just see the number and move on – and it’s even worse when they expect or demand a game get a “deserved” score, which a critic has done otherwise.

I noticed that in every single one of Anita Sarkeesian’s videos, she prefaced with something like “Just because media is problematic doesn’t mean we can’t or shouldn’t enjoy it. But we should be aware of these tropes and how they function.” and still people harassed her. Kinda like how if I go “Some men suck” douchebags still come in and go “Not all men”.

That kind of hostility towards constructive analysis is very much worrisome and, even worse, I’ve noticed this elsewhere.

I follow a lot of professionals in the comicbook industry on Facebook and they’re incredibly thin-skinned. Even if someone gave an opinion on their work in a totally level-headed, constructive fashion – they’d have a massive hissy fit if you happened to use the term “racist” or “sexist” to describe something. They even go as far as to claim it’s somehow censorship and do the whole freeze peach warrior thing, apparently not getting the irony of demonizing others’ free speech.

It makes me wonder why some of these people went into creative fields, if they can’t deal with the inevitable feedback from other people. And, if it really bothers them that much, they can ignore it – no one is forcing them to read or listen to such feedback…

Meinthe614
Meinthe614
2 years ago

I just found your site and I am laughing SO HARDING my husband came in to check on me, made me show him what I was laughing about, then he started laughing and trying to put his finger up my nostril as a joke. Thanks for the laughs!!

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