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The Daily Beast takes on the creepy Republican politician who founded the Red Pill subreddit

Robert Fisher: Red Pill Republican

So here’s an interesting little scoop: According to the Daily Beast, the long-anonymous creator of the terrible, horrible, no good, very bad Red Pill subreddit is, IRL, a Republican politician — specifically, New Hampshire 9th district state representative Robert Fisher, known better in Red Pill circles as Pk_atheist.

“It’s possible that now, four-and-a-half years after Red Pill’s founding, Fisher may regret his creation,” Bonnie Bacarisse drily notes.

When reached for comment by phone, Fisher denied participation in the Red Pill forum, claiming not to know what The Red Pill was. Though he did say he had heard of the men’s rights movement, he said he hadn’t heard of PUA. “What is a pickup artist?” he asked.

This denial aside, the extensively researched Daily Beast story makes a pretty convincing case that Fisher and Pk_atheist are one and the same. And there’s this:

Within hours of contacting Rep. Fisher, and after delivering by email a summary of his apparent connections to The Red Pill kingpin, his two primary Reddit usernames had been wiped, and four blogs connected to him were deleted or made private. He has not returned additional requests for comment.

While Fisher wasn’t an elected official when he (allegedly) founded The Red Pill in 2012, he’s been a Republican state rep since 2014. He also seems to be a cool dude with super-awesome friends.

Online, Fisher describes himself as an “attractive businessman” who owns a “small empire.” According to his Facebook, he is the COO of Same Day Computer, which operates two locations in New Hampshire. He was also the sole member of his indie-electronic band, The Five Nines, which may or may not still be active. … 

Fisher purchased the computer-repair franchise from its founder, failed New Hampshire state senate candidate Joshua Youssef, who, according to the Concord Monitor, violated state election law by publishing a deceptive blog to “make it appear that his ex-wife’s attorney had endorsed his candidacy.”

It turns out that the alleged Red Pill founder has been allegedly saying many, many terrible things about women online over the five years since the founding of The Red Pill — and even before.

I suspect many of his constituents, especially the human females amongst them, will be thrilled to learn of his Red Pill philosophy. Indeed, Bacarisse notes, “Fisher’s past comments on a host of Reddit forums are arguably far more disturbing” than some of the more notorious comments of his less-than-enlightened Republican dude politicians in New Hampshire.

He blasted women for their “sub-par intelligence.” He said that women’s personalities are “lackluster and boring, serving little purpose in day to day life.” And Fisher once commented, “It is literally the [female] body that makes enduring these things worth it.”

But there’s more! (There’s always more.) In assorted posts, he expressed his great appreciation for “slut shaming” and his unhappiness with female autonomy.

“Marriage, and yes, female oppression, slut shaming, religion, these were all a means to control hypergamy … ” Fisher wrote on The Red Pill in November 2012.

“To give women autonomy is to take away the very thing that made marriage a realistic institution…  what I dislike is the general attitude that somehow we owe [women] something for sex … ” Fisher wrote on his blog Dating American, in 2012—just weeks before establishing The Red Pill.

It may not come as a giant shock to learn that Fisher has not been completely thrilled with his dating life.

He complained that girls were ghosting on him and standing him up. He aired grievances about the character of women: They were uninteresting, immature, unintelligent, lacked depth, and were entitled. He bemoaned that dating was easier for women. He felt it was unjust that women get a free ride, believing “a pair of boobs grants [them] equal footing with somebody bringing intelligence or a personality.” 

Like a lot of his Red Pill brethren, Fisher is positively obsessed with alleged false rape accusations, and claimed that one of his ex-girlfriends once threatened to falsely accuse him.

“If you’re unattractive, feminism tells us, you’re likely a rapist,”he wrote in one Red Pill post.”[M]en are tip-toeing to make sure they don’t accidentally become rapists themselves.”

And it only gets creepier from here.

In 2008, writing under the username FredFredrickson, Fisher posited that the notion that “rape is bad” was not an absolute truth. He wrote, “I’m going to say it—Rape isn’t an absolute bad, because the rapist I think probably likes it a lot. I think he’d say it’s quite good, really.”

Though he stated he “doesn’t advocate breaking the law,” Fisher said online in 2012 that a 40-year-old man asking to see the breasts of a 15-year-old wasn’t creepy. Instead, he said it was “evolutionarily advantageous and perfectly natural.”

Fisher’s Red Pill beliefs aren’t just something he’s shared anonymously online:

As a candidate for state representative, Fisher proposed bringing concerns about the supposed plague of false rape accusations into the statehouse. Hosting a forum on Reddit under the username RobertFisherforNH, Fisher sought ideas to prevent “innocent people [from] receiving jail time.” He argued that because in rape cases “police err on the side of caution,” and show a high level of support for victims, the system was “susceptible to abuse” by women.

Given his noxious views, you may be pleased to note that Fisher is not what you’d call an influential politician, even on the state level. Partly because he seems to be a very lazy one.

“At his request, Fisher serves on no committees in the New Hampshire House,” Bacarisse notes. “Out of the 114 record votes so far during the 2017 session, Fisher has cast votes in half.”

Hopefully, after news of all this gets to his constituents, Fisher will go from being an ineffectual politician to being an ineffectual ex-politician.

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Brony, Social Justice Cenobite
Brony, Social Justice Cenobite
7 years ago

Edit: wrong thread.

dlouwe
dlouwe
7 years ago

If he can remove the abusive laws that allow women to receive cash and prizes for blowing their families up… [etc.]

Which laws are those, specifically?

dlouwe
dlouwe
7 years ago

Also,

“I changed my mind” rape accusations anytime they damn well please with NO consequences

http://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/index.ssf/2016/08/woman_sentenced_to_100_days_in.html
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Woman-Falsely-Accused-Brian-Banks-Rape-Ordered-to-Pay-26M-211689741.html
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/dec/01/109-women-prosecuted-false-rape-allegations

What was that about “NO consequences?”

Falsely accusing someone of a crime is a crime and women do get prosecuted for it.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
7 years ago

Coming at it contextless, it sounds like the “rape is not an absolute bad” comment is an attempt at philosophy. Like, something being a bad or a good is philosophical language.

It’s a failed attempt, because there are few things in this world that don’t do someone or something at least an iota of good or happiness, so saying something is not “an absolute bad” on the grounds that someone profits from it isn’t even stoned-freshman level philosophical musing. It’s just straight-up apologia. Even murder does good for the worms, so I guess murder isn’t an absolute bad either! This is just a meaningless observation, it holds no information.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
7 years ago

I’m with you this time. When the facts are on our side, there’s no reason to lie.

I might be wrong, but I took this bit to be a joke, given the rest of the post.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite
Brony, Social Justice Cenobite
7 years ago

@David Henderson
You are an emoter-of-feelings-without-objects. Feel all you want it’s still just name calling without something outside of you to justify something to be attached to all women. You have no courage or honor.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
7 years ago

@David Hendersoncomment image

Wait, you didn’t even bother to respond past round 1 the last time…
Since you failed to get people with your gotcha and insults, are you going at it again, the same way, anyways?
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David Henderson
David Henderson
7 years ago

dloutwe

Every law in family court , CPS , criminal justice system .. take your pick ..

My wife can DECIDE she is UNHAPPY …. call the cops .. accuse me of “making her feel unsafe” and “grabbing her” have me arrested removed from the house … cost me my reputation , 10 grand in attorney fees , indignity of jail., possibly being raped and or assulted in jail .. getting a permanent mugshot online for all current and future employers to see … then calling CPS .. telling CPS I’m “threatening” the children .. getting everything documented … emptying our joint bank accounts and maxing out the joint credit cards … show up at court sobbing like the victim –

and the judge will award full custody , CS payments , the house , repayment of debts

And when it’s found out to be 100% false – 1 / 1000 chance NOTHING will happen to her. NOTHING. No repercussions. No charges. No jail time. No assessments. She keeps the house and everything else.

THIS IS WHAT FEMINISTS CALL EQUALITY

David Henderson
David Henderson
7 years ago

Dlou

Ok so you found man bites dog article online. My point is that for every one of these articles hundreds or thousands go unpunished.

Women KNOW there are either no repercussions for lying to destroy a mans life or the chances of getting prosecuted are very low.

This is justified by what feminists call “punishing the victim”. The idea being ….. fewer female victims will come forward out of fear of being prosecuted. So they just let this disgusting draconian feminist system continue to destroy men’s lives unabated.

Again – with the mere accusation they can destroy men’s lives.

This gives women total one sided power and domination over men and their family using the police and courts as a weapon.

here are NO repercussions.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
7 years ago

This bit in the article caught my eye:

On r/TheRedPill, Pk_atheist admitted in December 2012 to supposedly video-taping sexual encounters with women in order to protect against false rape allegations.

and

Fisher also suggested adding an extra layer of protection by inquiring via text to affirm the woman had a good time, and asking if she got home safely after a sexual encounter.
“Make sure she responds positively, or ask a few more questions until you have positive confirmation. Can be crucial in regret-rape-accusations,” he advised in 2013.

I’m quite sure this ass used to troll here. Can anyone think of the name he used? I’m drawing a blank.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Hippodameia, Brandon used to advocate for taping every sexual encounter.

And the confirmation texts sounds exactly like something he would say.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Shorter David Henderson: “I will stubbornly refuse any evidence presented to me but I will keep spouting my misogynist opinions.”

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
7 years ago

Thank you, PeeVee! That would have bugged me all night.

The timing looks right, too – Brandon was trolling here in 2012. He was terribly hurt when he wasn’t nominated for troll of the year.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

David Henderson,

That’s quite a little fantasy you’ve got there. Care to cite any actual laws that exist? Because here in the real world abusers quite frequently stay out of jail and are allowed access to their children. Quite often nothing is done until the abuser murders his wife.

Classic example
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/06/17/new_jersey_policeman_reportedly_kills_wife_witnesses_say_officers_made_no.html

TW: Domestic violence

A Neptune Township, New Jersey police officer named Phillip Seidle allegedly shot and killed his estranged wife in the presence of their seven-year-old daughter on Wednesday—and reports say that other law enforcement agents on the scene took no action to stop Seidle from firing shots at the victim in their presence, with some officers even hugging and comforting him when he surrendered.

Citing a witness, NJ.com reports that other officers “hugged [Phillip Seidle] and patted him comfortingly on the back” when he was eventually taken into custody at the scene.

Yep. The system sure hates men and immediately locks them up anytime a woman calls the cops on him

Oh wait. The victim called the police 21 times and jack shit was done.
http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2015/07/neptune_cop_ex-wife_had_21_police_reports_on_file.html

Even though he was clearly father of the year material!

A source close to the investigation previously told NJ Advance Media that Philip Seidle contacted two of his children the morning of the June 16 shooting and told them he planned to harm their mother.

And just look at all the hits you get when you Google “police departments investigated for mishandling rape cases”
https://www.google.com/search?q=police+departments+investigated+for+mishandling+rape+cases&oq=police+departments+investigated+for+mishandling+rape+cases&aqs=chrome..69i57.16716j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

And the 10s of thousands of rape kits that haven’t even been tested yet all over the country? How can that be if all women have to is cry rape and the men are immediately jailed?
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rape-kits-n393186

Fuck off, asshole. You’re a lying sack of shit.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

The timing looks right, too – Brandon was trolling here in 2012. He was terribly hurt when he wasn’t nominated for troll of the year.

That was hilarious. It was before my time but I read the archives. JudgyBitch was mad about not winning too IIRC.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Y/W, Hippodameia.

He was memorable in how he would never stfu about himself, and how stultifyingly boring he was.

That, and his fabricated girlfriend “Ashley” who would sock for him. Lolol

IIRC, he was from New England somewhere, also…hmmm.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
7 years ago

Yeah – some of them were really outraged that we didn’t see them as the dangerous threats they hoped to be, and others seemed genuinely hurt to find that we didn’t actually like them. (Mell*r)

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
7 years ago

Ah, yes, “Ashley” the Totally Real Non-Inflatable Girlfriend!

IIRC, he was from NE, also…hmmm.

Yeah. The quotes in the article just sounded so familiar . . .

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Omg, DKM. He was…genuinely puzzling to me.

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!

FoxKit
FoxKit
7 years ago

I would not be surprised if something like ‘Pizzagate’ was happening in the inner alt-right circle.

Guess what.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
7 years ago

Free Alex!

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite
Brony, Social Justice Cenobite
7 years ago

@David Henderson
You come here spouting claims no one has any reason to believe.

And you do it while claiming that women face no reprocusions for false accusations, while posting accusations that no one can follow because you give nothing outside if your own feelings.

Why should anyone trust the word of someone that does not live as if they think these behaviors are actually bad things? You are starting to smell a little rapey. I see you muddying up the reality with what you claim of the ones you fear.

eli
eli
7 years ago

@FoxKit

From linked article:

In June, Nolan sued GOPFacts.org for publishing a picture of a man who they claimed was Nolan dressed in Ku Klux Klan robes. Nolan had originally posted the picture on his personal Facebook with the caption “Comn [sic] out to the Rabbit Hole and join the clan” but quickly deleted it, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported. In a suit, Nolan said the picture wasn’t him but rather a friend posing as a joke.
“It’s a joke in the neighborhood because every year [the friend] dresses up as a Klansman and he has two black grandchildren that he loves to death,” Nolan’s attorney said at the time. The Trump campaign kept Nolan on after the KKK incident.

WTF?

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Wasn’t there an Evan, also? Oh, my goodness, DKM held so many hostage!

Zatar
Zatar
7 years ago

Jeez most of the time it takes a little longer for the trolls to melt down. In addition I hope Henderson isn’t actually married or in a relationship because right now he’s sounding like a textbook abuser.