There are so many amazing things going on politically at the moment — amazing good, amazing bad, just plain gobstopping — that I figured, hey, let’s do an open thread before we’re all blown up in World War III or something.
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Politics Open Thread! Special Election O’Reilly Downfall Wandering Aircraft Carrier Edition
You know that feeling where you can’t look away, even though it’s terrible and awful and you really should?
I feel that way with the Alex Jones trial right now. I’m absolutely obsessed with it. And it’s destroying me.
Oh, I hope it’s true about O’Reilly!
If the Trump admin hadn’t proven they’d lie about anything I’d be shocked by the carrier thing. They are not sneaky, that isn’t what they do. The positions of US aircraft carriers is so not secret the proof the Vinson wasn’t anywhere near Korea was in a PR shot the Navy put out.
It’s weird. I hear O’Reilly, and I know it’s talking about a conservative pundit, but I can’t help but hear the jingle to a once-local shop owned by someone who shares the surname.
@JoeB
Ironically rump also mentioned sending submarines who’s role is covert and now the north-Koreans are probably looking for them because he told them abut it.
Well, it looks like Ossoff faces a runoff with Handel.
Pity.
(I wanted Ossoff to get over 50%.)
That’s less of a gaffe, there are typically 1-2 subs assigned to each carrier group, for advanced scouting, antisubmarine warfare, a ship that can somewhat keep up with the carrier if it decides to really haul ass, etc.
Though now that we know that carrier group isn’t anywhere near Korea the sub mention is counterproductive (assuming Trump knew what he was talking about at all).
@PeeVee
Indeed. But, silver lining, this is way closer than it had any right to be. Price, the guy who vacated to join the cabinet of doom, won by ~20, and now 1 Dem is about to pull near even with every other fascist in the race combined. If yall’s local congressfuckers won by only 10 or 15, don’t think they can’t be thrown out easily. The resistance persists!
Republicans, including Trump himself are trying to spin GA06 as a win, which is hilarious. The data nerds, who I’ll take any day over the traditional pundits, say Ds should be encouraged but taking the house back would be tricky if GA06 is representative. The gap would close, but they might not get over the hump.
I’m not a big believer in the paranormal, but there are times I think I might be able to see the future (not clearly, but in riddles/scrambled form).
I mean, about 10 years or so I had these recurring thoughts that overt white nationalism/supremacy was going to make a comeback, and when it did, they would call themselves “Traditionalists” in order to distance themselves from Nazi accusations. Well, what do you know, along comes Heimbach and he uses that name! That’s probably not a coincidence though; I was aware of the existence of Radical Traditionalism (or “Universal Nazism”) even back then, since the Red Lake shooter subscribed to a form of it.
A much more unsettling coincidence is that I also had thoughts about a singer named Justin Bigley who would take racism into the mainstream by “culture jamming”: having his supporters catapult his song to #1 on the charts.
That sort of culture jamming (though not with music) did in fact become the main alt-right strategy. And Bigley = “Bigly”? Oh, no…!
I’ve seen the movie Arrival so it makes me wonder if I’m like the Heptapods in a way. I mean there’s nothing in the laws of physics that absolutely forbids something like that, unless it leads to causality paradoxes of course.
These unwanted thoughts were vague enough that they could have “come true” in any number of ways and if they hadn’t come true, I probably wouldn’t even remember them. (I also never told anyone at the time). So no paradoxes there. I’m sure this is testable somehow via the scientific method. (I’ve got a few ideas for thought experiments already).
Jesus Christ, the first half of the headline of this article almost gave me a heart attack: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/north-korea-drops-nuclear-bomb-10252735…
At the end of the week, there is an important french election (for the President). There is two votes, the first one select the top two dog for the second round. The most likely scenario is that we will get Macron vs Le Pen, so boneless center right vs Trump, but it can be as bad as Fillon x Le Pen (Trump vs nasty republican, more or less), and we have a small chance of Melenchon in the second turn, which would be perfect to me.
Melenchon frighten me a bit, but I think the pro of his election outweight the con, since it’s likely he will at least try to solve poverty and feeling of abandonment that made the far right so strong.
I will sort-of likely vote for Macron, because I prefer to edge against risking either Le Pen or Fillon as a president than increasing the somewhat low odds that Melenchon will make it to the second turn.
Of course, the survey might be very wrong and I might not take the right decision. That’s annoying.
I hope O’Reilly goes down. My 77 year old mother is a fan of his, to the point where she actually buys his lousy books.
There’s a fucking anti-LGBTQIA+ hate group coming to my city, and I’m drowning in fake allies. “You shouldn’t say they’re not welcome here, I won’t support you.” “If you boycott the restaurant they’re attending that regularly hosts events for the organization that invited the hate group here, I won’t support you.” “Why are you picking on the poor local restaurant that’s now owned by millionaires who don’t even fucking live here? I just can’t support that.” “They’re not allowed to discriminate against hate groups, it’s exactly like when that bakery did a discrimination against the gays.”
AUGH (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
I can’t stay in this place.
ETA: Oh, and we’re getting an ICE detention center because the new police chief says so.
http://www.mystateline.com/news/potential-immigration-detention-center-in-rockford/693454015
@Ohlmann:
My partner, who is French, is currently very stressed about the election. She was a Hamon supporter and is uncertain about whom to defect to: Macron (whom she distrusts) or Melanchon (whom she fears.)
I like Macron, but then I’m probably more liberal than most people here, and I have the privilege of liking him from a distance.
Also, can I quickly point out that Le Pen needs to change her surname so that it ends with a French “-on” sound? She’s inconsistent with all the other candidates and it’s annoying me. Better yet, can we just remove her from the election?
A) I hope O’Rielly is fired and never darkens the airwaves again and it’s… damn almost 20 years too late? He never should’ve been ON the air.
B) I find myself completely short and unable to make it the last half the month because social security sets you up to fail. If anyone would be willing to help me out let me know and I can email paypal info? I hate to ask but I have a 10 year old to feed and she’s hitting another growth spurt and eating EVERYTHING and I can’t even afford veggies for her.
ryeash;
social conscience is neither a license to support hatred nor a requirement to support hatred. it’s fucked up when supposed allies turn out to be unwilling to speak against the current, but it happens… a lot. we’re trying to mold some form of social progress here, we’re not “trying not to make waves”.
@Godzilla I can spot you a little. 🙂 master_fishgoat @ yahoo dot com
@Fishy, I have emailed you. And still enjoying the Bill O’Rielly fallout omg
@Troubelle
LOL, now it’s in my head. I can’t even remember what they sold. Auto parts maybe?
Yep
@Zenobia
Indeed!
“O’Reilly is retiring to spend more time with his misery. “
“Oh-Oh-Oh! O’Reillyyyyyyyyy! Auto Parts! OW!”
I hear it, too. Every single time.
Remember when O’Reilly confused a loofah with a falafel?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/oreilly/bill-oreilly-falafel-lawsuit-turns-ten-897562
Ha ha. Jason Chaffertz isn’t running next year.