Remember Milo Yiannopoulos, the At-Rightish Breitbart “journalist” who used to call Donald Trump “daddy?” He apparently wants the world to know that:
- He still exists
- He’s no longer on the Trump Train
- He’s one of the worst people to walk the face of this earth
In a recent statement to Mediaite, Milo explained that he was breaking with his former political idol over his missile attack on a Syrian airfield — but hasn’t yet given up on calling Trump “daddy.”
“This is not why people voted for Daddy,” he told Mediaite. “It’s the opposite of why people voted for him.”
Yes, who could possibly have foreseen that the guy who wants to increase our military budget by $54 billion while cutting funds for Meals on Wheels might have a hankering to use military force?
But don’t worry! Milo’s opposition to “POINTLESS FOREIGN WARS” — as he put it, in all caps, in his brief message to Mediaite — doesn’t mean he’s suddenly become a decent person. Far from it!
Here’s why Milo says he’s against intervention in Syria in particular:
I’m as troubled by violence toward innocent children as the next sociopath, but those kids are only growing up to be oppressors of women and murderers of homosexuals anyway.
So everyone in Syria who practices a certain religion deserves to be killed, even the children? Milo Y may no longer be a Trump fan, but he’s still a fascist at heart!
@Andreas
It’s always the Left
That’s told to coddle and pay.
Funny how that works.
I’m gonna echo WWTH here: Why?
Why the FUCK should I be the “bigger” person and not assume that these assholes are out to kill me and people like me? Because they said they fucking want to.
I’m poor, mentally ill, queer in both gender and sexuality, and I identify as (mostly) female. On top of the fact that I’m liberal as all hell, I’m pagan, and I’m a feminist. That’s a hell of a lot of “strikes” against me according to the assholes in power. They’d be much happier if I was either compliant or (as I’d prefer if given a choice) dead.
So, again, why the fuck do I have to constantly be the bigger person, especially to the people stomping on my rights? Why is it not on them to, oh I dunno, not be shitty people?
I see this shit all the time when it comes to social justice stuff. So many people (who may be well-meaning) come marching in and say that we need to be “better” than our opposition. Guess what sunshine? We already are.
And telling us to be “the bigger person” is just shitty ass tone policing.
They wouldn’t listen when we were nice. They can ignore us when we’re soft and quiet and just quietly asking politely.
They can’t ignore us when we’re loud and willing to knock some teeth in. And that’s what they’re mad about. They’re mad that we’re not going quietly into the night.
They want our cooperation now that they’ve got what they wanted? They want us to shut up and “accept” that they’ve won through a rigged system? They want us to be silent and not raise hell like they did when Obama won (twice)? They want to blame us for their failures, but they still want us to “work with them” (by which they mean “just shut up and go along with our plan”)?
They want to reach across the aisle now that they’ve got power? Hope they don’t mind those hands gettin’ bit.
Hallelujah, IP. No compromise with those who would punish us for being so disobedient as to exist.
Beg pardon, PI; transposed your initials and missed the edit window.
Andreas:
You forgot the tired (bullshit) cliché being bandied about by the right currently, every time we make any sort of criticism about the current crop of pundits: The “tolerant” left!!!1!!!”
Are we the same person?
@Andreas For Christ’s sake, what a load of shit.
Assume, nothing. Nobody here is assuming jack shit. We’re basing our statements on Milo’s prior words and actions.
I assume you mean better, although I’m physically larger thanMilo as well. And I’m a better person because I’m not a fucking nazi, and I unhesitatingly condemn people who are nazis ( like Milo), and nazi sympathizers (like you).
Nice mindreading, mate. Can you tell what card I’m holding
up?
Except, yanno, for the part where he’s advocated for killing all Muslims in the past. See, this is what I meant about assuming. You’re acting like this is the only thing Milo has ever said on the topic, and there’s no history or context for his statements. This is because you are a shithead.
To answer Paradoxical Intention and weirwoodtreehugger about the introduction to my comment:
It is commonly a bad idea to assume the worst imaginable motivations of every statement, even of your opponents. It tends to leave one arguing against something they never said, and does not in any way encourage corrective behaviour, as even the correct behaviour will assumed to have bad intentions.
To Dalillama,
Firstly, he explicitly states his reasons for opposing intervention in Syria as “not what he voted for”. Regardless of his beliefs about the people in Syria or Muslims in general, he would oppose military intervention, because he opposes US military intervention.
Secondly, the vile and indecent comment Milo makes had no reference to Muslims. He would not weep for the deaths of atheist sexists, nor for Christian homophobic murderers, as he apparently believes most Syrians will grow up to be.
I do not agree with Milo. But it’s hard not to end up defending him, when, as I suggest above, everyone insists on arguing about something he never said.
@Andreas
Here’s the second verse.
A tired repeat of the first
That ignores responses.
In spite of the truth
Historical presence
Does not phase you much.
“He didn’t say that”
“At least not explicitly.”
“Must feign ignorance.”
Kind of like what you’re doing now? Nothing that comes after this addresses what WWTH or PI said.
It’s not my job to correct the behavior of other adults. It’s their job to not be shitty people.
Andreas, perhaps you don’t know this, but Milo didn’t vote for anything, because he’s not a US citizen.
He’s a trollish agitator. QED.
Again, if Milo really did dislike homophobic and sexist Christians, he seems to have sided with the wrong political party. Not to mention he would have to hate himself (which I’m quite sure he does, to be fair).
Be a bigger person than Milo? Every time you see a puppy and don’t kick it, you are being a bigger person than he is. I strive to meet a higher bar than “better than Milo Yiannopoulos,” personally; and as Dali says, achieving that goal requires holding bigots and Nazis to account.
Andreas,
Search the archives for previous posts about Milo. We’re not assuming bad motives based on nothing.
There’s no need to come in here and try and splain his motives. We know them all too well. Did you miss the part where Dalillama already pointed out that he has a history of advocating violence against Muslims?
Also, “I don’t support (fill in the blank with terrible person or thing) but then I saw how mean you are and now I support (terrible person or thing)” is the oldest troll trick in the book.
I’m willing to bet that you do support Milo and are just full of shit.
I spent most of today tearing my hair out about some table joins which resulted in duplicate rows in only some, but not all, of my columns. During this period, I didn’t say anything hateful about underprivileged people, or call for anyone to be harassed.
Better person than Yiannopoulos: check. That was easy.
What else you got?
Somehow, I managed to miss the conversation on glitter delivery methods.
…If shit starts going down on-campus, I wonder how I can hide a bulk pack of cheap-ass condoms alongside fabric dye and glitter.
I do support Milo, I just don’t agree with him.
I have extremely different political opinions to Milo, but I generally consider this brand of self-righteous moralising far more painful to listen to than his rudeness and mistakes in economic and social policy.
To prove I am not a troll, watch me vanish without making a counter-argument, because the apparently it wasn’t obvious how my statements were logically incompatible with the positions of the commenters I responded to.
Cya!
Eyeroll.
Oh, so it’s a wank about how being called a racist scumbag is worse than being a racist scumbag?
How logical!
Feel free to stick to the flounce.
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@Andreas
Can’t defend his stance
Yet still tries to act haughty.
What a shocker.
Clearly your political opinions aren’t that different, since you think cozying up to Nazis is best defined as “rude.” But okay. Bye now.
@Asshole
Yes, it was obvious. Also obvious was how your statements were incompatible with decency, and indeed reality. That obviousness is why you got the reception you did.
@Troubelle
You can hide it next to the condoms, fabric dye and glitter in literally any other dorm room in the world. Heyyooooo!
@IP
The condoms are the most worrying part, especially given that I’m a minor. (Granted, the age of consent is 16 in my state, but peeps be freakin’ out.) If my parents or RC saw them, no doubt they’d be..troubled.