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The absolute worst reason to oppose Trump’s Syria strike, courtesy of Milo Yiannopoulos

Milo: Still a sad clown

Remember Milo Yiannopoulos, the At-Rightish Breitbart “journalist” who used to call Donald Trump “daddy?” He apparently wants the world to know that:

  1. He still exists
  2. He’s no longer on the Trump Train
  3. He’s one of the worst people to walk the face of this earth

In a recent statement to Mediaite, Milo explained that he was breaking with his former political idol over his missile attack on a Syrian airfield — but hasn’t yet given up on calling Trump “daddy.”

“This is not why people voted for Daddy,” he told Mediaite. “It’s the opposite of why people voted for him.”

Yes, who could possibly have foreseen that the guy who wants to increase our military budget by $54 billion while cutting funds for Meals on Wheels might have a hankering to use military force?

But don’t worry! Milo’s opposition to “POINTLESS FOREIGN WARS” — as he put it, in all caps, in his brief message to Mediaite — doesn’t mean he’s suddenly become a decent person. Far from it!

Here’s why Milo says he’s against intervention in Syria in particular:

I’m as troubled by violence toward innocent children as the next sociopath, but those kids are only growing up to be oppressors of women and murderers of homosexuals anyway.

So everyone in Syria who practices a certain religion deserves to be killed, even the children? Milo Y may no longer be a Trump fan, but he’s still a fascist at heart!

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Ghost Robot
Ghost Robot
3 years ago

Where’s the Privilege Grant money, Milo?

*sniff sniff*

Ghost Robot
Ghost Robot
3 years ago

Also, I feel bad enough for Barron as it is, but to make him Tommen… Ouch!

Valentine
Valentine
3 years ago

I thought this debil had gone away.

Kat
Kat
3 years ago

@Valentine

I thought this debil had gone away.

Hell, it’s said, is a frozen place.

I think Milo got too cold and lonely without us.

He’s back!

Tosca, Chaos made Flesh
Tosca, Chaos made Flesh
3 years ago

I wouldn’t assign Bannon as Tommen. Tommen was a not-very-bright but sweet natured boy, who loved his cat. Bannon has more of a Walder Frey vibe.

Rev
Rev
3 years ago

Have any of you kids/bloggers ever read up on what/who funds Meals on Wheels or do you only read the headlines of leftist news orgs? Why even mention the program?

Most MoWs don’t rely on Community development block grants but on title programs, which do not fall under the discretionary funding that Trump has targeted for cuts in his budget. Plus, they rely on fundraising to keep going; which is the beauty of the program. The citizens don’t HAVE to rely totally on the government to help other people.

The Trump cuts are to the block grants, which affect a small percentage of MoW funding. People complained about this as if the world was ending. It isn’t.

#DoSomeResearch

Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
3 years ago

@ Oogly

even with Kushner, being well Kushner, I hope he stays safe,

Respect, sincerely for saying that! While I do “love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning”, I don’t want to see my enemies driven before me. We’ve seen a lot of people on the right recently make a “misstep” and get booted from the bigot base. Some of them have characteristics which make them lesser in the eyes of that base… women, Jews, non-whites, gays. They’re running afoul of a bunch for whom hate is a guiding spiritual principle, and for whom the complete destruction of “others” is a team sport.

I don’t like Kushner, Megyn Kelly, Tomi Lahren, Milo, yeah, even Roosh, whose southwest Asian “not-quite-white”-ness will eventually wear thin with the literal nazis… I REALLY DON’T like them, and I like seeing them pushed out of relevance. I’d like better if they and all the a-holes they support were completely removed from all positions of influence. But I don’t want to see them beaten to death in an alley.

To champion these people’s destruction at the hands of their former benefactors would be to cheer the destruction of people who are members of a marginalized group who are being destroyed because they are members of that group. Distasteful as it is, I too hope they stay safe.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

A fate worst them death for a person like Milo

Yes, I know! 😆

*cackles wickedly*

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

To champion these people’s destruction at the hands of their former benefactors would be to cheer the destruction of people who are members of a marginalized group who are being destroyed because they are members of that group. Distasteful as it is, I too hope they stay safe.

I think there’s a big difference between what is actually happening to these people and their being “destroyed” and “unsafe.” I hope they stay safe, too, but I am not crying over the fact that they tried to cuddle up to rattlesnakes and got bitten. I think it’s perfectly OK, and actually desirable, for them to experience negative consequences for their hateful and destructive behaviors. They tried to destroy others and pledged loyalty to white supremacists and misogynists; they found out that their white supremacist, misogynist “allies” felt no loyalty in return.

If you want to call Milo losing a book deal and a job his being “destroyed” and an undesirable result, then we are not going to agree on this one.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

No sympathy for the ‘untermenschen’ who thought they could schmooze with the nazis without consequence. We tried to tell y’all. Imma just let em get fucked over, look em in the smarmy face, and go ‘now, what have we learned?’ And then laugh and dip before they answer. I’m far more worried about Bannon having something bad happen to Kushner than Bannon having something bad happen to Kushner. If the fascists hafta go after someone, I hope it’s them and not anyone worth a shit. Fuck em

Valentine
Valentine
3 years ago

What people also forget or don’t mention about Milo is class. From his voice and action he seems to be British upper class or upper middle class. I know he alleged says all the shocking things just to shock, although i think that is excuses, and je does believe. But also he proably grew up in a bubble and did not develop empathy for others. Everything seems like a game for him

But also @Kat is right, without attention, good or bad, he starts to feel emptyness inside.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

Seconding Axe. Bit too busy worrying about the shit these assholes can do, to worry for them after they fall from grace.

I got other things to lose sleep over, no joke intended.

Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
While I do appreciate the compliment, I said that only out of common courtesy and lack of desire to see people be a victim of brutal hate crimes. Outside of torture, assault, and murder, them getting punched, glitterbombed, hate mail, insults and constant harassment, I am not going to care that they feel scared or fearful of their lives. These folk sold out their own demographics in a naive attempt to be spared of persecution. They had it coming.

Ellesar
Ellesar
3 years ago

Since when does Milo give a shit about the oppression of women?!

Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@Ellesar
When it’s convenient for him.

EDIT:
Kevin Logan uploaded a new video of Richard Spencer against antifa protesters.

Ellesar
Ellesar
3 years ago

Ooglyboggles – it reminds me of the comments about ‘rapefugees’ – usually made by right wing men, probably some women as well. They apparently care greatly about women when they are white and have been raped by a man who is not, but when feminists bring up spousal/ familial/ date rapes there is a 180 degree turn and it is all ‘they are lying/ trying to ruin a man’s life’ etc.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@Oogly

Can’t watch videos right now, but I absolutely need to know, does he get punched ?

Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
He gets glitterbombed and his group gets hounded the entire day, and repeatedly fails to get a taxi to help them get away.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
3 years ago

@Ooglyboggles

Late to the party here: is “glitterbombed” an euphemism for something, or are we literally talking about carpeting peeps with glitter with the help of a propulsive force?

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@Oogly

Never thought I’d see the day glitterbombing would become an Antifa tactic. This is fucking glorious.

Next time they gotta do it while riding unicorns.

Zatar
Zatar
3 years ago

Troubelle:

Its pretty literal.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@Troubelle

It’s quite literal. Bet he wishes he got punched instead.

epitome of incomprehensilibility

@Troubelle – literal glitter, because it’s messy and gets everywhere (I had a summer job as a camp craft director, so I know firsthand). It’s also sparkly!

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
3 years ago

@…all y’all who answered

Welp. I know what I’m stocking up on.

Cohen the Librarian
Cohen the Librarian
3 years ago

Rev
April 9, 2017 at 8:55 am

Have any of you kids/bloggers ever read up on what/who funds Meals on Wheels or do you only read the headlines of leftist news orgs? Why even mention the program?

Because it’s a cut to a valuable service for no good reason.

Most MoWs don’t rely on Community development block grants but on title programs, which do not fall under the discretionary funding that Trump has targeted for cuts in his budget.

Well, that’s just lovely. That makes the cuts to this and other programs a-OK then?

Plus, they rely on fundraising to keep going; which is the beauty of the program.

Time spent on fundraising is time spent not being able to provide services. But I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

The citizens don’t HAVE to rely totally on the government to help other people.

Sure, but on the other hand, a democratic government is SUPPOSED to be at the service of the citizens – unlike private philanthropists.

The Trump cuts are to the block grants, which affect a small percentage of MoW funding. People complained about this as if the world was ending. It isn’t.

Lovely to know the world is not ending because of the cuts to Meal on Wheels.

#DoSomeResearch

Does your “research” indicate that Meals on Wheels is the only program affected by the proposed budget cuts? If so, I strongly suggest you #DoMoreandBetterResearch

epitome of incomprehensilibility

…Ninja’d twice!

OT: Apologies for irrelevance, but I’m kind of anxious right now. I was ten minutes late to my tutoring today at 1 PM, and I was 15 minutes late last week (Sunday at the same time). At least it was a different student, but my bosses are going to give me shit for this. 🙁

I said last week I wouldn’t be late again, but a) I’m just not good at doing things quickly and planning how long things will take (ADHD, general busy-ness) and b) Montreal’s transit system isn’t super-reliable on weekends …I know these aren’t good excuses and I need to plan better, especially when being late is inconvenient to others, but how do I DO it? I’m so disappointed with myself and I’m afraid I’ll get defensive when they confront me tomorrow.

But I have to go now, another class.

Zatar
Zatar
3 years ago

I love seeing Richard Spencer and his goons running because it exposes that despite their claims of being “Alpha” they are quick to run in the face of opposition. I’m glad that they’re making racists afraid.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

These folk sold out their own demographics in a naive attempt to be spared of persecution. They had it coming.

You know, if they had done it to attempt to be spared persecution themselves, I would actually have sympathy for that. I have none, because I don’t think that is their motive. Milo’s motive appears to be as stated: he wants attention and the money that comes along with it. It isn’t self-preservation, it is straight-up greed.

In the case of the women who have fallen from right-wing grace recently, their motives also don’t seem to be protection from persecution. They seem to just literally agree with the conservative economic case and everything flows from that.

These are the motives they ascribe to themselves, and I’m not prepared to read more into their actions than that. Certainly, if one wants to avoid persecution, drawing massive amounts of attention to oneself is not the most effective method.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

Is it wrong that I am currently thinking on plans for a literal gas-based glitter bomb ?

The trick is in choosing the material for the casing. I need something that shatters safely – maybe a very thin layer of polystyrene ? That shouldn’t turn into deadly shrapnel, but I’m pretty sure building the thing would be damn unpractical.

Also, boring troll is boring.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

Have any of you kids

Condescending troll is also boring troll. 1/10.

CleverForAGirl
CleverForAGirl
3 years ago

I don’t care if mow only lost 5% of their funding, I don’t care if it was even 1%, the point is you don’t cut programs that feed people

We’re supposed to feed, clothe, and comfort people. That’s basic human-ing.

So many conservatives are christian I just want to ask them, “who is your neighbor? Who is your motherfucking neighbor?!” And then smash things with a homemade whip. . .but that’s just me.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

The citizens don’t HAVE to rely totally on the government to help other people.

One problem with privately funded charity is that when there is a recession, donations go down because people don’t have the spare money to make donations. But when there’s a recession, that’s when charity that helps the poor, elderly or disabled is needed the most.

Governments on the other hand, can continue to fully fund these programs if they so choose. Particularly when they’re large governments with stable currencies such as the US.

Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@Policy of Madness
You are right, I apologize. I disregarded their own agency of being horrible people.

@Rev
Starving grandparents,
It’s not as bad as you think.
Charity solves all!

Nequam
Nequam
3 years ago

Re Spencer: antifascistnews.net had this notable quote (italics mine):

“… Once he was in [a cab] the cab driver (who Spencer mocked for being of Indian origin) got out of the cab, frightened of the ensuing protesters, and Spencer had to take off running. …”

I’m damned impressed the cabbie didn’t purposefully grab him, throw him to the crowd, and add a few blows of his own.

Zatar
Zatar
3 years ago

Nequam:

……How much of a dumb racist fuck do you have to be to delver racist taunts to the guy who’s driving your cab while your being chased?

Nequam
Nequam
3 years ago

inorite?!

There’s been some handwringing on other forums, and the possibility of things getting truly mob riotous isn’t a good one, but I cannot even pretend to feel sorry for this chucklefuck.

JS
JS
3 years ago

Rev,

Meals on Wheels may be privately funded in some cases… but let’s just look at that a bit.

In my neck of the woods, the churches in the area put a reasonable amount into feeding homeless and food-poor people. They also put money in to keeping the local shelters working well enough that the people in them stand a chance of getting out of homelessness and into some sort of more secure living arrangement. There’s also trying to help the addicted get out of addiction, and many other things generally considered “good works”. Heck, even helping the local shelter buy laundry machines that don’t require fixing every day.

The problem? Even the biggest churches don’t have enough funding to do everything they would like. They never will. There’s always something more they could do, by the definition of “charity” pretty much. The more they put into feeding the homeless, the less they can put into things that might be more likely to help people get back into secure living. Feed a person for a day, and that’s all you’ve done.

Help them get their clothes laundered, maybe provide good clean clothes and interview preparation to help them get a job, and maybe you’ve helped put them on the path out of the shelter. If you could also help with counseling and continuing “learn to hold down a job” stuff… that’s even better.

But if we have to spend more of our limited resources on FEEDING them because some well-off politician, with whatever he needs including free housing, said “no, you get less this year must feed missile batteries”, then yeah, we won’t be nearly as useful at getting them out of the problem they are in.

Charity is not as simple as “let them eat”, though that’s a fair start.

Also, if you want people to be more respectful, starting out by calling them “you kids” is counter-productive.

CPphazor
CPphazor
3 years ago

I mean when you’ve gotten to the point of rationalising ‘eh fuck it let the kids die’ then perhaps you’ve lost the plot.

Weatherwax
Weatherwax
3 years ago

@epitome

I’m so pleased you asked because I’m often left hanging and I’m left with the feeling that it’s because people don’t care about my inconvenience. So it’s really valuable to me, to hear that you know you’re doing it (even if that’s just you, not my people).

It sounds to me like a lot of the issues you’re late are hard for you to manage by yourself. Can you rope in a trusted friend to say “you need to leave now”? Do you find alarms helpful, or do you tend to ignore them? Can you build in “redundancy time” (leave half an hour before you need to), and find something to do if everything goes to plan (puzzles, reading?).

If it makes you feel any better, I found myself getting up at 5am to catch the first bus of the day at 6am, because that was the only one not held up by traffic (20 min bus ride once took 1 hr 40). If your work is ok with you turning up over an hour late, catch the bus when you’re ready. If not, you need to build in redundancy time and find things to do with the spare time it gives you.

I get that it’s hard, and I admire you for trying. Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to help.

eli
eli
3 years ago

@epitome of incomprehensilibility

I’m afraid I’ll get defensive when they confront me tomorrow.

I know this is really hard and I’m really still struggling with this part of some of the major changes I am making to how I deal with my world, but….

You don’t need to justify, argue, defend or excuse (JADE) when someone confronts you. Especially if you know you were in the wrong, but even if you think you were right or had a good excuse, etc.

You can apologize, figure out a way to do better next time (Weatherwax had suggestions) and then do your best to give a different way a shot at least one time.

And when you do, give yourself a big pat on the back for trying, no matter the outcome.

Good Luck!

epitome of incomprehensibility

@Weatherwax – thanks!

Can you build in “redundancy time” (leave half an hour before you need to)

This makes the most sense for my situation on weekends. Weekends are the problem.

My current work schedule is like this: I work in a small tutoring centre and spend 6 hours every weekday on admin work (according to contract; in practice it can be 8 or more). Besides those hours, I also tutor classes for students (mornings, evenings, or weekends); this schedule varies, and right now it’s 20+ hours a week because of exams. During the week I can take the train, but on weekends the train doesn’t leave often, so I have to take a bus + metro, and these are less reliable. Since my supervisors aren’t there on weekends – the administration is closed – they’re anxious to make sure everything goes well, and they were angry at me today because they depend on me to be more reliable than the other tutors.

find things to do with the spare time it gives you

At least that’s not a problem! If I’m not reading or planning something for a student, then I’m writing, reading, or asleep.

@eli – Thanks for the reply! I hadn’t heard of that acronym. One of the people I have to deal with is very difficult, but it’s my responsibility not to be difficult back. It’s no use arguing with him (especially since he always wants the last word – it’d just prolong things). At the moment I can’t like him, because he’s been less than fair to me before, but I can at least nod and listen respectfully and do better with weekends. …If only I had some time off, though…

Kat
Kat
3 years ago

Start your week off right with this (very, very cautiously) optimistic opinion piece:

Democracy Has Stood Up to Trump
But it’s far too early to declare Trumpism dead.

[C]hecks and balances are, for now, holding up reasonably well.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/04/why_trump_s_people_keep_saying_how_well_they_know_each_other.html

I’m just gonna make a public declaration:

Love you, checks & balances!

authorialAlchemy
authorialAlchemy
3 years ago

So lemme get this straight:

He pretends to oppose the oppression of women, yet he’s the one who popularized the phrase “feminism is cancer”?

Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

Glitterbombs are the best. I’m pretty sure they started in the late 80s/early 90s, and they were used by the LGBT+ community against homophobes. Literally the most fabulous of defenses against anti-protestors.

He pretends to oppose the oppression of women, yet he’s the one who popularized the phrase “feminism is cancer”?

Since when do nazis ever work on actual logic, let alone internal logic? You give them all too much credit.

Pie
Pie
3 years ago

@Sinkable John

Is it wrong that I am currently thinking on plans for a literal gas-based glitter bomb ?

I hope not, cos you might not have been the only one doing that.

The trick is in choosing the material for the casing. I need something that shatters safely – maybe a very thin layer of polystyrene ? That shouldn’t turn into deadly shrapnel, but I’m pretty sure building the thing would be damn unpractical.

Well, an easy option would be to use a balloon. I can’t think of many things other than rubber that can both hold enough pressure to make a good pop and reliably not produce fragments. Alteratively, a strong pressure chamber with a few holes in it covered by burst disks made of something innocuous might do the job and be slightly tougher and more throwable by way of a bonus.

I bet you could find out how commercial tear gas delivery systems are made, given a few minutes on the internet. That’d be a good starting point.

EJ (Marxist Jazz Weasel)

@Pie:
Tear gas is really unsafe stuff, so their shells are probably designed for a low level of safety.

Pie
Pie
3 years ago

@EJ

Whilst this is true, it is only politically acceptable to blind protesters with gas and beat them to the floor with sticks; having fragments of gas grenade casing take out their eyes would be wrong.

(also, do note that I said ‘starting point’)

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@Jack

Yeh I’d heard of it before as a tactic against homophobes and found the whole idea fucking brilliant. It’s genius really, it plays directly to what those asshats loathe the most.

And now it’s being used against nazis, and I can’t believe it took that long or that I didn’t think of it before, because it works for the exact same reasons but even better ! A single colorful speck is a death blow to their masculinity.

And it can’t even cause collateral damage. Being covered in glitter is bad, okay, but not as bad for everyone as it is for those who actually feel threatened by it – aka, the intended target. It’s the perfect weapon.

@Pie

Tear gas is sadly not a good place to start. Problem is, as far as I understand it, that mechanism is based on an opening in the casing through which the gas is ejected – I could probably make something like that work with glitter, but it’d be uneffective. It’d be one continuous stream in a single direction, and there’s a good chance it could be facing the ground when it goes off, not to mention how easy it would be for the target to neutralize it or worse, throw it back.

A balloon seems a good idea but it presents additional challenges then. First off, how do I make it pop when I want it to ? It’s just gonna deform on impact with the ground or a person, so it’s gonna need a more elaborate trigger mechanism. The trick here is to keep it cheap and easy to build – so that doesn’t leave a lot of options. Second, balloons don’t throw too well. It’d need to be weighted, making it less safe.

Also, I ain’t a smart person, and I definitely ain’t trained in engineering, so it’s not like I could make sense of an elaborate design, much less come up with one.

I’m pretty good at building shit by recycling my trash though. I got about a dozen different designs for beer can ashtrays, whereas the common garden variety punk only knows three at best. So I feel like I still got some pretty valid creds here.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
3 years ago

Just to note:

I’ve heard that glitter can sometimes cause serious eye damage, just by getting into eyes. Then again, punching a person can sometimes cause serious brain damage. Take of that what you will.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@Arctic Ape

I thought about that, and I remember reading ’bout prank mail glitterbombs being mixed in with small amounts of the same stuff we use to tend to peeps hit with tear gas – apparently if any of that glitter gets in yer eyes, they instantly start watering hard enough that it keeps it away ?

I really hope it is indeed the same stuff (dunno how it’s called in English), because that’s something any Antifa cell has a large supply of.

At any rate I need to read further into that. Last thing I want is for an ally to lose an eye to one of these things going off accidentally. And besides, current-day nazis are already ridiculous clichés on their own, there’s no need to add eyepatches to that picture.