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Donald Trump, Globalist Cuck: Alt-Rightists leap off of Trump Train after Syria “betrayal”

A sad day in Kekistan

When Donald Trump lauched 59 Tomahawk missiles at a Syrian airbase last night, it took a lot of observers by surprise, none more so than the Alt-rightists and fellow travelers who’ve long made up his most fervent fan base. To say they weren’t pleased would be a gross understatement.

“The memes have turned on us,” the person manning the Twitter account of White Supremacist website Virginia Dare Tweeted sadly. “Kek is fickle.”

Prominent Alt-Rightests and fellow travelers, from Richard Spencer and David Duke to RAMZPAUL announced that they were done with Trump, while anonymous Alt-Rightists with nicknames like Fashy American and WaffleSS cried “betrayal” on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/850305201068224513

https://twitter.com/cubantoastmafia/status/850452061225398273

https://twitter.com/ENDSIEG95/status/850459298723495936

Even the Son of God, or at least someone claiming to be Him, had some choice words on the subject.

https://twitter.com/We_Love_You_IU/status/850436817039917056

Some pulled out the dreaded “c” word. No, not that one; the other one, the one that ends in “uck.”

https://twitter.com/JayMillerCA/status/850459246777053184

https://twitter.com/Jimmy_TheToucan/status/850423515996196865

Others went a step further, pulling out a certain three-letter-word starting with “J.”

https://twitter.com/whites_united/status/850390973557428224

https://twitter.com/DerFolgt/status/850363034526773249

https://twitter.com/bleachsommelier/status/850397581519843329

It seems clear that Trump’s Syrian attack has lost him a good chunk of his Alt-Right supporters, quite possibly the vast majority of them, a fact not lost on his angriest Alt-right critics.

https://twitter.com/KyleBristow/status/850311461163470849

https://twitter.com/FashyAmerican/status/850455329133518848

But a few of his longtime fans couldn’t quite stick the flounce. Lat night, Alex Jones employee Paul Joseph Watson announced dramatically that he was “OFF the Trump Train.”

But today, after losing some of  his Twitter followers over his Trump criticism, he insisted that when he said he was “OFF the Trump Train” he didn’t really mean “OFF the Trump Train” as in literally OFF of it. He had really just meant to imply that maybe he’d just moved to another car?

There were others in and around the ALt-Right who had similarly, er, nuanced responses to the Syria strike. That will be the subject of at least one future post.

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Ghost Robot
Ghost Robot
3 years ago

I’m mystified at how these Pepitos actually thought Trump would be any less of a warmonger than any other Republican of the last 30+ years. Republicans LOVE war! It’s in the party’s DNA.

Sheila Crosby
3 years ago

@abars My best guess is that most of them are gullible enough to swallow it all a second time, because otherwise they’d have to admit to themselves they were wrong the first time., which is clearly unthinkable. But some of them will catch on, and Putin (hopefully!) won’t be able to help as much. That might be enough to turn a paper thin victory into a narrow defeat. We don’t need to convince everyone.

Moggie
Moggie
3 years ago

abars01:

What I’d like to know is what effect, if any, all these desertions are going to have on the 2020 election.

A week is a long time in politics. Three years is an eternity. Most of the people who have “deserted” him over Syria will probably be cheering for him again very soon, after some piece of awful legislation or 3 a.m. tweet. These are not people with unshakeable moral convictions.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
3 years ago

@faintingcouches

It’s not just you, seriously. Just a few days ago I was feeling baffled that the alt-right viewed neo-liberalism as The Enemy. See, I’d thought that neo-liberalism was the left’s enemy.

I didn’t realise at first that by ‘neo-liberalism’, they apparently mean something a bit different – i.e. Jews something something global order something. Silly me.

@Sinkable John, Kat,
I hope you see this as you’ve both commented here. Sorry for not replying on the other thread – it was kind of like trying to talk to someone in the middle of a huge, aggressive, party, with all the stuff that was going on.
Let me know how things are when you have a moment. Thanks for the greetings 😀

I have this fabulous wine from New Zealand and I’m trying so hard not to scarf the entire bottle …

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@Mish

I have this fabulous wine from New Zealand and I’m trying so hard not to scarf the entire bottle …

Oh gawd I hear you. Let’s just say, these days The Stuff isn’t only for the sleepsies. Actually it’s not even 3 in the afternoon yet and I’m already rolling one even though I keep telling meself I need to keep it for before bedtime.

Oh and it’s almost that time of the year again… friggin’ May. It’s my favorite month – and also the worst fucking month.

Pie
Pie
3 years ago

@faintingcouches

I thought that the alt-right were with the neo-cons or actually counted themselves AS neo-conservative. This is probably really obvious to everyone else.

The alt-reich like to imagine themselves as some sort of anti-establishment third way, but this tends to cause some nasty cognitive dissonance when they have to interact with someone outside of their group, or face the real world. This can be remedied by shuffling goalposts and redefining things until they fit their worldview.

Neocons are therefore the evil old corrupt right wing imperialist warmongering republicans and part of the swamp that trump said he was going to drain, and absolutely nothing to do with or anything like the fresh new crop of imperialist warmongering republicans who represent the alt-reich.

See?

Macier
Macier
3 years ago
numerobis
numerobis
3 years ago

The alt-right simultaneously wants a huge army and non-intervention overseas; that’s also a traditional conservative thing — as opposed to neocons who want a huge army that bombs everyone all the time.

The huge-army/non-intervention policy is untenable in the real world: when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. In the US, there’s bipartisan support for bombing everyone.

But as EJ says, that’s a distraction. The alt-right really just parrots whatever Putin propaganda wants them to parrot. And Putin is not happy with US attacks on Assad’s forces.

Karl
Karl
3 years ago

@abars01 – my guess is that it won’t have much impact at all in 2020, as Trump will have either resigned or been forced out by then.

Trump has committed at least four things worthy of impeachment. The main reason he’s still in place is that Ryan and McConnell are afraid that impeachment would cause his neo-nazi supporters to punish them in the next two elections.

If Trump loses the support of the neo-nazis there really isn’t any point in keeping him around, except possibly for his ability to cause distraction (which hasn’t really been that effective in the past.) Ryan and McConnell will see him as more of a liability than an asset, and we’ll wind up with President Pence. (Unless it turns out that Pence perjured himself with the whole Russia debacle, in which case we’ll end up with President Ryan.)

If he manages to retain the support of the neo-nazis, he’ll likely be facing a democrat-controlled House after 2018, and they won’t be shy about keeping him around.

Pie
Pie
3 years ago

@numerobis

The alt-right simultaneously wants a huge army and non-intervention overseas; that’s also a traditional conservative thing — as opposed to neocons who want a huge army that bombs everyone all the time.

The huge-army/non-intervention policy is untenable in the real world: when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. In the US, there’s bipartisan support for bombing everyone.

The huge army plus no overseas conflict works nicely for the ridiculously paranoid (eg. the ones who think that the UN is going to invade the US) and the stupidly racist (cos you need a big army to crush the jewish menace and their brown minions, or something).

Oh, and there’s also the matter of the communists to the north and the brown people to the south who might need dealing with one of these days…

rick
rick
3 years ago

So basically a bunch of short sighted, stupid people who frame their politics around blaming women and the marginalized are now finally realizing that they’ve been “cucked” by the cult of personality hero they thought would save them? When they were warned that this is exactly what would happen? No sympathy at all.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
3 years ago

Alt-right: “We are so shocked that Trump the d*** who hates everyone, lies, knows nothing and so thin skinned we voted sent missles to a country! We been lied to and betrayed!”

Me: http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/thumbs/gallery/2117880/83721784.jpg
I’m not giving them the slightest bit of sympathy. They knew what a Hitler he is and still voted for him. I know my country America is stupid but I didn’t think we were this stupid. I know I would make a better president and I never even been to college!

Monster-Teeth
Monster-Teeth
3 years ago

Screw the air strike. It was theater & saber-rattling. Trump owns Raytheon stock. Guess who built the missiles.

But at least the neo Nazis are triggered . Idiots are conned by an idiot conman.

AtlasSulked
AtlasSulked
3 years ago

So the “alpha” they pledged their tender hearts to turned around, did exactly what he wanted regardless of his promises to them, and fucked another country other than theirs…

If only there was some trite analogy I could draw to sexual infidelity within marriage…

Space Oddity
Space Oddity
3 years ago

Apart from the fact that Trump lied (SHOCK, HORROR) could someone explain to me why this is so distressing for the Nazis? I thought they were all about showing strength? It certainly can’t because they’re worried about killing brown people. And it definitely can’t be because they don’t want the opportunity to go kill brown people themselves. I know their minds dark, sick places, but this seems like it fits with every fascist idea they espouse, so…? Can anyone explain this to me?

(And to clarify, I’m distressed about the chemical attacks as well as the escalation of violence.)

Mostly, it upsets Putin sempai.

Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
3 years ago

Trump is just a liar.

YA THINK?!?!?!?!?

The reality is that you voted for Trump because you got conned. Trump is a grifter and the American people were the mark. Hey, it happens, and there’s no shame in being taken in by a pro. But now that you know the score, quit insisting the conman is on your side.

Ivory Bill Woodpecker
Ivory Bill Woodpecker
3 years ago

Who’s that croaking in pain under the Trump Train?

Why, it’s–Pepe The Frog!

“How’s it feel to be thrown under the train, Pepe?”

“Feels bad, man.”

Betrayer
Betrayer
3 years ago

Apart from the fact that Trump lied (SHOCK, HORROR) could someone explain to me why this is so distressing for the Nazis?

They have been told that American intelligence agencies are liars, American media is fake, and to trust Putin and Australian-owned FOX instead. #AmericaFirst!!!

Putin says that the Syria gas attack was a hoax. Alt-Right neoNazis swallowed that whole, and have decided that the hoax was carried out by Israel.

So now when Bannon loses power while Jared Kushner, a Jew, gets more control over the Trump white house, they see Trump falling under the control of the “Jewish puppetmaster illuminati lizardpeople elite New World Order satanists” they think run the world. An attack on Syria justified by what they think is a hoax proves that.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@Eddie

The reality is that you voted for Trump because you got conned

Nah, they got precisely what they wanted. Being uncareful what one wishes for ain’t the same as being swindled. It’s not like his supporters weren’t cheering extra loud when he said he’d destroy Obamacare or, more pertinent here, ‘bomb the shut out of em’? But, alluva sudden, they’re fulla Trumpgrets that he’s doing what he said he would

So, yeah, I’m no fan of the whole ‘conman’ trope. He didn’t lie to his supporters. I mean, ‘alternative facts’ aside. He told them what they wanted to hear, and is currently doing his damnedest to deliver. At some point (months ago btw), we hafta quit downplaying Trump voters’ bigotry, backwards outlook, ignorance, selfishness, and violent tendencies as externally created in the last 24 months. They were like this the whole time, Trump just gave them permission to be open about it. And now they’re mad. Fuck em

Flora
Flora
3 years ago

Thanks to everyone for your replies. I feel enlightened and yet deeply worse off for understanding one more dark corner inside their skulls. My heart breaks for Syria, and I hope that my feminazi communist government steps up their game to counteract some of this awful for the Syrian people.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
3 years ago

@Sinkable John, esq.

(it just suits, don’t ask).
I managed to behave myself with the wine. If you don’t count anxiety and depression meds, I’m awfully well-behaved these days, in terms of substances.
My brother self-medicates to get some sleep, too – sleeps all day and is awake most of the night. But I’m not suggesting you’re like him in any other way, I should stress 🙂

Oh and it’s almost that time of the year again… friggin’ May. It’s my favorite month – and also the worst fucking month.

I don’t know why it’s your favourite, but is it the worst month because it’s the anniversary of the awful stuff that happened? (I’m trying to think of suitable euphemisms and coming up empty – sorry!)

PaganReader - Misandrist Spinster

@Kat

Seventy-six days? Pfft.

I know. You’d think they’d have at least managed 88 days, that being one of their favorite numbers and all.

@Karl

…we’ll end up with President Ryan.

Well there’s a horrible thought.

Brain Bleach:
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Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@Weird Eddie
What Axe said. Nobody was conned into voting Trump. No one. Refusing to acknowledge the ramifications of one’s actions is not the same as being tricked.

Jules
Jules
3 years ago

I’m OFF the Trump train! … Except I’m not. Fake News!

Alternative semantics, I guess?

I know my country America is stupid but I didn’t think we were this stupid. I know I would make a better president and I never even been to college!

I know…

faintingcouches
faintingcouches
3 years ago

@ Mish and Abars,
Ok, thanks for explaining that for me, I hope the wine was good Mish. I love the NZ whites – they are more expensive here than the Aussie stuff strangely. I mistakenly thought the ‘Drain the Swamp’ was about his anti-immigration policy – so it was about getting rid of the old republicans…ok thanks for letting me know. Hated how he would wear that cheap baseball cap, it looked like such a prop – but seemed to work with his base.

Yeah a war machine is a war machine. Each new group of recruits have to cut their teeth on something, otherwise they won’t be able to train the next generation no? The alt-rights stance on anti-war is naive to say the least.

faintingcouches
faintingcouches
3 years ago

sorry I meant Pie, thanks for explaining. It’s witching hour here and the kids are screaming. (read: Going to bed)

Pie
Pie
3 years ago

@Weird Eddie

The reality is that you voted for Trump because you got conned. Trump is a grifter and the American people were the mark. Hey, it happens, and there’s no shame in being taken in by a pro. But now that you know the score, quit insisting the conman is on your side.

Trump isn’t a conman… he’s a blatant liar. He lied again and again and again during his campaign, clearly and provably, on camera. And then lied about lying.

Its the same old “leopards eating people’s faces party” thing. These idiots just thought that he’d carry on lying about hilary and the economy and poor people and so on, and wouldn’t lie to them because he’s such a nice trustworthy guy. That’s not a con; that’s wilful fucking stupidity.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@Mish

As they say here, may you always have a spare bottle. (no one but me actually says that)

And may you always manage to behave with the substances. (no one says that either but I feel like they really should)

May has the bestest skies. Or, well… at least in the northern hemisphere. The sky in May always seems frozen (if not for dat swirlin) between spring clear blue and summer storms, like it’s torn in half. It’s friggin awesome.

May also has a yearly punk rock festival which has been a pilgrimage for me since my tweens. And, yeah, that’s where all that shit started. Stuff generally always happens there, good or bad, and it defines the rest of my year. Usually it starts good but spins out of control as soon as May’s over. Sometimes the other way around. Sometimes both at once because life is weird.

And it happens under the bestest skies, which make for an awesome setting in which to get drunk and baked off one’s face. Even the air’s got that particular taste and I can’t get enough of it.

Sadly it’s also the mother of all the places I’m ostracized from, and pretty much everyone knows it, and pretty much no one’s neutral. A lot of people still do want me around and it’s for them I make the trip, but I’m sick to death of how others treat me. The big problem this year is that I strongly suspect that any semblance of peace I was able to enjoy before was entirely due to a guy called Raph. Raph’s my best friend, and also a friend of the people who want me gone. Raph is also one hell of a soothing influence for anyone and in any context. And right now, Raph’s in NZ for a year and I already missed the bastard for a variety of reasons not even related to the festival.

So I’m basically preparing to take a three-day stroll into a hostile land without my usual training wheels. And it’s gonna be awesome and the sky’s gonna be the bestest but there’s also a very real chance I’m gonna end up borked even beyond my current state. I could afford some safety if I still had friends to go with, but I’m paying the price of all that hermiting now. Gonna have to rely on my charm and supply of fun-things-to-have-in-your-bloodstream to find a group once I’m there. Read : I better grab a lot of beer and pot.

I don’t even have a funny metaphor for how fucked up everything is. It’s beyond ridiculous. Especially since I’m the element with the worst fucked-up factor and all of that shit could be avoided by just… not going. But I can’t do that either. Sad !

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
3 years ago

@Sinkable John,

The May skies are beautiful here, too, although differently so. The weather is slowly cooling, and from about 5-6pm there’s a gorgeous blue glow, and the air feels incredible – all fresh and crisp. It’s my favourite time of day. And then winter skies! Here they are the bluest of blue – sort of makes up for the Dreaded Awful Summer Heat of Hell.

Your music festival sounds incredibly intense – and I don’t mean the music. If it were me, I’d never go back again (due to a mix of terror, anxiety, and suspicion of anything habitual) but I get how important it is to you. You want to keep going because it’s part of you, part of your life, but I’m thinking too that it causes much upheaval and real pain and grief.

There are certain songs I can’t listen to – even though I love them – because they’re linked to horrible times. I can’t imagine immersing myself in music, smells, sounds, and people, that bring that all back.

I just realised I’m probably making it worse – oops. And hey, you’ll get out of the house, right? So that’s … good?

I haz no wisdom or help to offer. I wish I did, ’cause it’s obvious how messed up you’re feeling, especially as your friend Raph is away – that really sucks. Feel free to chat about it if it helps at all 🙂

P.S. I thought of you last week – in my Comms class we were talking about anxiety and phobias and methods of dealing with. One student told us she was arachnophobic, and she was the real deal, poor thing – just thinking about spiders made her ill. I pity her living here 😐

Kat
Kat
3 years ago

@Mish
I’ve been experiencing both health and economic challenges since we last talked. I’m working on getting on top of them. Fingers crossed.

This ball of not-what-I-wanted started with Donald Trump’s election, which is a tragedy for me, the USA, and the rest of the world. I’m having to step up my resistance game. Sometimes I can barely believe that this man is the president of my country.

On the plus side, California is officially no longer in a drought. And my nearly 17-year-old cat seems to be in fine health. She was my late mother’s cat, but we’ve had her for almost 10 years. She and her brother constantly bicker, but I think they also make life interesting for each other.

I hope your situation improves soon. I’m glad you’re back!

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@Mish

I just realised I’m probably making it worse – oops. And hey, you’ll get out of the house, right? So that’s … good?

Noes, don’t worry. It’s a pretty accurate assessment of it all and that can’t hurt. And yes, it is good that I get to go out. I’m growing more and more socially awkward and anxious with time, and things like that help reverse it.

I just wish there was some room for forgiveness. That awkward “limited mutual tolerance” shit is doing no one any good, especially when some of them actually seem to try and taunt me by waltzing into my camp and sitting by my fire under the pretense that it’s the only fire around and I shouldn’t make it if I don’t want people sitting by it.

No regard at all for the fact that I have to build and keep my own damn fire since there’s a pretty high chance I’ll be shoo’d away from any other camp. That’s the entire reason why I’m the guy who’s always got a fire : I’m the guy who can’t rely on anyone else for anything, which is pretty fucking rich considering it’s a festival. And I’m not trying to keep anyone away from it either, as far as I’m concerned all are welcome, ’cause it’s about making sure no one freezes their ass off in a cold rainy night. Even if their presence isn’t exactly making me comfortable. Still, there’s a hell of a line between that and just waltzing in and sitting next to me with all yer friends while pretending I ain’t there.

Ugh. Hello, teal deer rant. Talking about this invariably gets me worked up 😐

rugbyyogi
rugbyyogi
3 years ago

Eh, they were conned. Just because someone has shitty intentions doesn’t mean they werent conned. Ask any conman – they’ll say that you can’t con an honest person – they play to your greed, or in this case, bigotry and hatred. Each supporter of Donald Trump saw what they wanted to see despite ALL the evidence to the contrary.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@rugby
But conned them into what exactly? A con implies getting someone to do summat they didn’t wanna do or not delivering on promises made. They totally did want the person they voted for to ban Muslims. Then when he tried, people realized how shit that idea was. Ditto for ‘repeal and replace’ and bombing the Mideast. He said he would, and he’s going forward with what he said he would

Especially cos it’s not Trump. They’ve wanted to hurt brown people since forever. They hated Obamacare before anything was ever written. Trump didn’t make them believe that stuff. Like, I’d say he maybe conned them on the wall stuff. Getting Mexico to pay for it, the fuck even was that? But I’m not seeing the deception with this bombing…

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@Axe

He did somehow con them into thinking he’s smart and competent.

Which seriously fucking boggles the mind. Other than that, I agree that they got precisely what they wanted. The fact that they only feel “betrayed” now shows that pretty clearly.

rugbyyogi
rugbyyogi
3 years ago

@axecalibur – they were conned because they believed that he would do the thing he said he would that they liked but they completely ignored the other things he said he’d do that they didn’t like. Some Mexicans or those married to Mexicans voted for Trump to get rid of the Muslims, but they didn’t believe that he’d really be so deportation-happy for them. And vice versa. My ex supported Trump (though no vote) and as an alt-right Bannon-loving dude, he can’t believe that he went back on his word on Syria. Some voted for him to ‘bring back jobs’ or coal but believed that he would sort out the cost of healthcare, because in non medicare expansion states the cost of premiums really did go through the roof and Obamacare ‘failed’ (by design, but it did fail), but obviously he has no intention of doing that. Trump said so much contradictory stuff to so many, that if you did selective listening then you could hear whatever you wanted. Being conned requires believing what you want and turning off the danger signals. Trump may be an illiterate, non-thinking, reactive, thin-skinned fool, but he’s really good at the con.

Do I think being conned excuses them? No, certainly not. They were conned because they finally found a candidate that promised to do deplorable things – they just didn’t reckon he’d do the deplorable things they didn’t like.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
3 years ago

@Kat,

I hope the health and economic situations aren’t too serious! Good to hear that other things are going well. 17 is a good age for a kitteh to still be going strong. As for your* president person, um … you guys have a lot of support and sympathy all around the world, including where I am. Hang in there and take care of yourself.

*”your” president in the generic sense, not yours personally.

@faintingcouches
(I really like your nym). NZ wines are the bestest. My half-sister lived over there for a while and is firmly of the opinion that NZ is bestest in all the things. Particularly Peter Jackson 🙂

@John, you’re going to the thing, I get it. Just look after yourself, okay? And don’t throw anyone in the fire.

CriticalDragon1177
3 years ago

The fact that firing missiles takes away money from all that wall- and gulag-building must enrage them no end.

Yeah, I ran across some tweets saying exactly this, didn’t include them b/c the post was already overflowing w/ tweets. They’re really mad he’s not throwing out all the immigrants and building the wall. And mad at “people like Kushner” hint hint nudge nudge know what they mean well yes they’re a bunch of raving anti-Semites.

I wonder what’ll happen when/if Trump kicks Bannon to the curb.

David Futrelle,

You should have included those. People need to see just how hate filled the alt right really is, and how much people like this would love to turn the US into Nazi Germany.