Men’s Rights Activists aren’t good at much, but they’re remarkably adept at one thing: blaming women for things done by men. Rape? Don’t blame the rapists, blame their allegedly abusive mothers who made them that way. Environmental catastrophe? Don’t blame the CEOs of polluting corporations or the politicians who enable them, blame women and their love of shopping.
As the antifeminist Nazis of the Alt-Right move ever further into the territory of the MRAs, they’re doing their best to perfect their women-blaming skills. But they still have some ways to go, if a supremely muddled recent post on The Daily Stormer is any indication.
Daily Stormer contributor Master Ace starts off with a premise that will be familiar to anyone who has been following MRAs for any length of time — that women are destroying civilization by picking the wrong dudes to hook up with. YouTube “philosopher” and erstwhile MRA Stefan Molyneux, as you may recall, presented a particularly blunt version of this thesis in a now-notorious video rant blaming women for all the evil in the world because of their alleged inclination to choose assholes as boyfriends and husbands.
Master Ace offers a similar, if far more muddled, version of this argument in a post with the chilling title “For the Sake of All That is Good, Female Sexual Choice Must be Suppressed.”
Like many of his MRA brethren, Ace starts off with a bit of the old Evo Psych. Like their orangutan sisters, Ace declares, human females gravitate towards macho alpha males.
A human female will attempt to become impregnated with (what she judges to be) the best genes available, and simultaneously, she will attempt to utilize her sexual capital to maximize the resources at her disposal.
But alas, the innate hunger of human females for all things alpha runs contrary to the needs of our modern civilized society.
Civilization has historically operated on the excess production of “beta” males. “Beta” males ganged up on the “alpha” male and convinced him to guarantee them sexual (reproductive) access to females in exchange for excess labor, and allowing him to live. Or, possibly, the “alpha” male decided there were too many women for him to fuck, and it made more sense to use them as bargaining chips, in exchange for excess labor.
I’m pretty sure that neither of these hypotheses bears any resemblance to anything that ever happened in the real world.
The precise details are irrelevant.
I suppose they are, if you’re just pulling random crap out of your rear end to rationalize something you already believe.
The important point is that in a post-agrarian world, any normal man is capable of producing far more than he needs. This extra production has myriad uses (traditionally, supporting a family, and the endeavors of the state), but a man requires some incentive in order to generate this excess production. That incentive has historically been sexual access to females, and there is no substitute, so far as I can tell.
Uh, have you ever heard of “money?”
Basically, civilization happened because “alpha” and “beta” males got together and said, “Hey, we’re stronger, smarter, and more imaginative than these twats. Instead of letting them play us like a bunch of shmucks, let’s divide them up amongst ourselves, and then there will be more for everybody, including them.”
But alas, the women of today don’t want to be divided up amongst men like so much booty. Now that women have been brainwashed by the evil Jews to believe they should have choices — you knew he was going to work Jews in their somehow, right? — they are actually picking out which guys they want to have sex with.
And as far as Mr. Ace is concerned, they’re picking out the wrong guys.
The women are free, they are fucking every asshat with a facial tattoo, or a headful of hair that more resembles a peacock than a human being, or an abundance of gaudy jewelery, or a physique that expresses, “I spend more time trying to look tough, than actually training to be tough.”
But Ace isn’t just mad that women are allegedly throwing themselves at every tattooed “alpha” while ignoring the world’s hardworking betas. Ace, who acknowledges that these guys are “probably getting more pussy than I am,” is pretty much furious that women are picking anyone other than him.
[A]llowing females to choose who gets laid and which genomes survive isn’t working for much of anyone. They manage to land a guy who can afford a butler and the next thing you know they are fucking the butler. They find a guy who can bench 300#, and suddenly they want a man who has read a book. Show them a pretty boy, with great hair, an eyebrow piercing and a few trendy tattoos – they’ll demand a man with calluses on his hands and boots on his feet.
In short, they want it all.
Even assuming any of this is true, how would this mean that the current system “isn’t working for much of anyone?” In his scenario, the system seems to be working quite well for 1) butlers, 2) book-readers, 3) boot-wearers and, oh yeah, 4) the “females” who are having sex with all of them.
Somehow, in Ace’s mind, this imaginary world in which everyone but him seems to be having almost constant sex is in fact a world in which
Almost nobody is getting laid as often as they would like, even the most attractive people. Everybody knows something is off.
As Ace sees it, there is only one solution to fix this world in which “almost nobody is getting laid” — while simultaneously getting laid all the time: we need to get rid of women’s right to choose who they have sex with.
Simply remove female sex selection from the human reproductive equation. Almost everybody will be getting laid. The women will feel like they are being raped. And everybody will be more or less happy.
I have a much better idea, dude. Go fuck yourself.
Um taking away female choice is rape. Presumably women don’t count in his ‘more or less everyone’ statement, because women aren’t people?
Why not just be the guy you’re jealous of? My gym had a $20/month deal, there are classes in programming, technical and grant writing and medical tech at the local community college (all of which are in demand and pay pretty well–I’m taking grant-writing), and theater (if they can stomach hanging out with teh gheys for a month or two), improv or a part-time retail job are excellent foundations for social success.
Am I the only one to have picked up on the fact that it doesn’t take much effort or money to be successful enough that someone pretty, sweet and kind might think you might be worth taking a chance on?
Right here. Right here, asshole, is why you’re not enjoying the sex the “betas” get, that you”re not having. Because you exude a creepy attitude that is a better alarm than anything that could *ever* come out of your mouth.
Seconding David’s suggestion. Go fuck yourself.
Gravity Toad, how dare you suggest that these paragons of manhood are anything less than perfect just as they are?
A the good old Virgin-Whore paradox. They are Hypergamous and have sex with everybody; it’s impossible to please them, but they will get their claws on you; they will steal your job, but can’t work; they are too stupid to do anything, but control the world through secret conspiracy and mind tricks; they are ugly are cruel, but are only good at being tender and loving; they are disgusting and hypnotising; they are meek and passive but they are agressive and violent.
@Gravity Toad
“Buut noooooo, I want my cyborg sex slaves nooooowwwww.”
Whelp that is a bold indicator of wants superceding reason.
I suspect this guy has bought into that awful idea that women really want to be forced; they spend all their time fantasizing about being raped, and waiting for some man to come along and “make them” have sex.
This is one of the more disgusting ideas that (some) men have come up with. It deserves to die a painful death.
I’m a recovering “nice guy” who grew up around white supremacists. The only reason I lived that way is that I never knew there were other options. The very second I first saw genuinely happy people, I wanted what they had and set out to get it. What I don’t understand and have never understood is why the people who come from the place I come from don’t think that way.
What I want is modest—a nice place to live, meaningful work, someone to love and people to share that life with—and because it’s attainable, I see no reason why I can’t have it. I’ve dated the kind of girls these people think they want, and I didn’t enjoy it.
The method I’m using isn’t secret knowledge. It’s embedded in our culture. I don’t understand why they don’t see it.
Sometimes I wonder why dudes like this, who are obviously sexually frustrated, don’t just . . . y’know, jerk off and see if that makes them feel better. But then I remember what they really want isn’t an orgasm, it’s to feel like they’re superior to someone by controlling them.
The premise of women as mercurial creatures who choose relationships with assholes over stability (Stefan Molyneux and co.) seems like it’s based off the behaviour of teenagers or women in their early twenties. Which suggests they aren’t really interested in adults or adult relationships. So basically older men obsessing over the “preferences” of young women/girls they shouldn’t even be thinking about in that kind of context.
Everybody’s more or less happy now. If it comes down to a choice between me “feeling like I’m” being raped and you having to get friendly with Rosy Palm and her five daughters, then find Rosy some nice lotion and have at it, bub.
Master Ace can’t get a date.
So women shouldn’t be allowed to choose whom they date.
That way, Master Ace will always have a victim.
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Suddenly, I like Mitt Romney. A lot. Snorfle.
The idea of Senator Mitt Romney should scare Trump
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Women will be raped… and everyone will be happy? Seriously?
I think there needs to be a sick face emoji to properly describe how I feel.
the women will “feel like” they are being raped? after removing their ability to choose who they have sex with?
okay, so this piece of shit just doesn’t believe rape is a real thing at all, then.
which shouldn’t be a surprise since all the lines that refer to “everyone” are clearly ignoring women, he obviously doesn’t think of them as people.
cool. cool cool cool.
This is revolting. I guess that when they say women will feel like they’re being raped, it doesn’t help that they do not consider women as sentient.
Women can’t be raped. Women can only feel like they’ve been raped. And everyone knows that women are “crazy” and “hysterical” so any time a woman “feels” like she’s been raped, it can be immediately discounted. Handy!
He spins this whole made up tale before suddenly introducing a different one, admitting in the process he has no idea what the hell he’s talking about. It appears the history of his home planet is very different from Earth’s.
Have these guys who seek to tear down everyone but themselves ever considered that maybe they’re the thugs being shunned for the greater good of society as a whole?
Considering this is coming from Stormfront, there’s a surpreme irony considering the probability of most of those guys having literal prison tattoos on their face. White supremacists ain’t exactly known for being upstanding pillars of the community.
Ew. Just fucking ew.
…Because CF women sure don’t exist. /s
I one point I wondered how Biotruthers like this guy would respond to the existence of asexual women, but more than likely, they believe we also don’t exist. But even if they DID acknowledge us, they probably just see us as broodmares anyway.
To creeps like this asexual women are probably like lesbians. They just need a man to come along and show them the error of their ways.
When I read this I couldn’t help getting a nuclear fission image in my head, and started giggling.
“A domeston which collides with a betamale splits into fission products and releases three further betamales. In order to prevent this chain reaction from accelerating beyond control, we use a rod made of videogames. This absorbs a certain percentage of the betamales and keeps the fission process linear.”
Brilliant!
As for this master ace – he is the enemy of freedom. Reminds me of that time I read Mein Kampf. If necessary I would fight in a long and horrible war to stop people like this.
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