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The only valuable thing about women is their looks, manosphere “economist” Aaron Clarey declares

Woman cashing in on her economic asset

It’s Equal Pay Day, the annual holiday intended to remind everyone of the still very much real wage gap between men and women, so what better day for self-styled Manosphere “economist” Aaron Clarey to declare that the economic worth of women is based almost entirely on their hotness?

Clarey, who is not actually an economist and doesn’t seem to understand many of the basics of economics, points his blog readers to an article highlighting the success of VietJet, a Vietnamese airline famous for its bikini-clad flight attendants.

“[T]here’s a very valuable economic lesson here that all women, but especially western one’s need to learn,” Clary mansplains. “And that is what determines their economic value.”

The answer to that big question? According to Clarey, it’s how smokin’ hot the woman in question is.

“No other commodity in the world is in as high of demand as female youth and beauty,” he asserts.

And the reason why is that half the world’s population (the would be men) demand it. And not only do they demand it, they demand it highly. They demand it so much that they built civilization to afford it win it over, so much so to the point we could say nearly all of human civilization and global historical GDP was created to get it.

Well, you could say that, Mr. Clarey, but you’d be wrong. Not that this stops Mr. Clarey from making this dumb assumption the basis for his boldly retrograde economic theory.

As Clarey sees it, women need to stop complaining about being seen as sex objects and embrace the power of their temporarily pretty faces and hot bods. Women, he argues,

need to view this from a purely economic, empirical, and clinical point of view that I’m trying to make, otherwise the vital economic lessons that lay within will be lost on them and it will be their loss. … Half the population (that would be men again) demands and will pay a pretty penny for female youth and beauty.

There’s just one little problem for the little ladies: Looks fade, and since (in Clarey’s estimation) women don’t really have much else going for them, they’re kind of screwed.

“[M]en produce the vast majority of economic production in the world,” Clarey declares, and “whatever other skills, talents, desires, and ambitions a woman has, there just isn’t going to be as much demand for them compared to youth and beauty.”

So what can women do? Emulate Hedy Lamarr, who “was not only a stunner, but also a scientist on the side.”

Clarey assures the little ladies that they don’t have to choose between a modeling or acting career and a STEM degree — apparently the only two options women available for women who want to earn real money. They can do both!

Choosing to major in electrical engineering or going on to become a computer scientist does not mean you must forego modeling, acting, or simply benefiting from female beauty, and vice versa. Being the most demanded commodity in the history of the world is an added bonus and additional choice conferred upon pretty, young women in addition to the same career choices men have.

Trouble is, most women are just too lazy to choose either path, much less both.

Based on declared college majors and a simple walk in the public [sic], the majority of women are neither majoring in STEM nor maintaining their beauty. They are instead opting to major in the liberal arts and eschewing the gym, neither of which are in demand in the real world. And the reason why is very simple. Hitting the gym and studying math is hard.

You know what else is hard, Mr. Clarey? Being an actual professional economist rather than someone who plays one on the internet. Generally speaking, real economists don’t consider “a simple walk in the public” to be a substitute for actual data.

But I digress.

Clarey moves on to provide the ladies with more beauty tips.

To maintain your physical beauty you have to diet, eat right, run, work out and exercise. Additionally for women they must comport themselves accordingly, wear the right fashion, all of which is an effective and taxing part time job.

COMPORT YOURSELVES, LADIES! Your economic success depends on it!

Now, Clarey is well aware that many ladies will find his unsolicited advice patronizing, to say the least. That’s because THEY CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH, if “the truth” is defined as “a bunch of stuff Aaron Clarey pulled out of his ass.”

Clarey goes all tough love:

You may find this insulting, you may find this offensive, but the real world of economics does not care about your feelings or what you’d like.

Suck it up, buttercup!

The real world demands engineers, computer programmers, doctors, accountants, plumbers, and electricians.

Apparently in Clarey’s imaginary world, these are pretty much the only real jobs out there.

If women don’t train for these jobs, or take advantage of their “additional option of translating your youth and beauty into money,” well,

[t]he only other option is what nearly 75% of women choose and that is to pursue fields where they need to beg, plead, and pull teeth to get funding. So whereas Intel will willingly pay a female computer science graduate $80,000 a year for a job in Silicon Valley, or a rich husband will willingly set up a beautiful woman for life, the ugly women’s studies or communications major has to literally go begging to non-profits for charity or lobby the government to force taxpayers to pay for their pointless career that nobody ever demanded and does nothing to benefit the world.

Clarey — who does not himself have a STEM job — demands that women embrace STEM as the only game in town other than marrying a dude with money or simply being pretty for a living.

The reality is that the world demands STEM type majors. Not the touchy feely malarkey that passes for the liberal arts. And if you don’t like that, women (unlike men) have a fortunate alternative option. An enviable “Plan B.” You can use your looks and youth to score a husband, resources, a career, and other financial advantages men simply can’t. Beyond that, there are no other options.

Let’s take a quick look at some economic data on what jobs women in the real world — as opposed to Clarey’s imagination — actually do.

Here’s a chart from the Department of Labor (click on it to see it full size.)

Yeah, teachers and nurses, who needs them? And we might as well fire all the administrative assistants while we’re at it. It’s not like business will grind to a halt without someone doing all the unheralded but vital behind-the-scenes work that keep them functioning, oh wait. A closer look at the data also shows that women make up more than half of all accountants and auditors, so clearly there are more than a few women who know something about math.

Also, I don’t see a listing for “modeling,” so apparently this option for taking advantage of what Clarey thinks is women’s primary economic asset isn’t available to quite so many women as Clarey seems to think.

Women make up nearly half of the work force. You’d think that someone claiming to be an economist — or even someone who just “walk[s] in the public” — would have a slightly better understanding of what women actually do for a living. But that would require looking at data from places other than his posterior.

Clarey also takes aim at those who suggest that maybe men should learn to think of women as more than just sex objects. As Clarey sees it, this is RANK TYRANNY and he won’t stand for it!

No, seriously, he uses the word “tyranny.”

Do not men have the right to like what they like? Are they not allowed to be free to have tastes and preferences?

The problem in thinking there’s something wrong with men for being attracted to female youth and beauty (as they have been since time immemorial) is that it is women forcing their desires on other people. It is telling them, nay, demanding others want what they want them to want. Not what the individual wants. And you can call it whatever euphemistic phrase academia has concocted to make it sound valid, good, and noble, but when you boil it down, it’s nothing more than rank tyranny

Clarey really isn’t very good at this whole economics thing. Or the whole blogging thing. Maybe he needs to take advantage of an entirely different career option.

Take a look at this video below (and yes, I know I posted it yesterday as well). Clarey is the guy wearing the oh-so-styish “I [heart] NY” t-shirt. Watch him walk. Do you think he’s got what it takes to be a runway model?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YkWvIkED0s

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Laugher at Bigots, Mincing Betaboy

And the reason why is that half the world’s population (the would be men) demand it. And not only do they demand it, they demand it highly. They demand it so much that they built civilization to afford it win it over, so much so to the point we could say nearly all of human civilization and global historical GDP was created to get it.

WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH to bang HB10s!

Ashara Payne
Ashara Payne
8 years ago

Funny how these manospherians feel the need to vehemently defend men’s preference for good-looking women yet are foaming at the mouth when women prefer good-looking men (Chads). Maybe it’s because women actually get to choose to have sex with men of their choice whereas most of those men would like to have sex with women of their choice but can’t.

Maximilán (they/them)
Maximilán (they/them)
8 years ago

it is quite showing ,how people like Clarey don’t think women have sexual preferences. it is like ,we have commodified women, and don’t see them as full people.

I wish more hetero women realized that they are allowed sexual desires, and demanded their needs to be met. or women’s money is too icky?
I understand that in a heteronormative society, men preforming sexiness and sexual availability, is seen as “feminime” and “gay”, and hetero women are often just as invested in upkeeping this system as hetero men are.

So I will be deprived from men running around in joga pants and croptops in the future. Or male flight attendants serving people in speedos. As an enthusiastic conosseur of male beauty I am appaled by the lack of freedom men have in this aera. where are the MRAs standing up against this injustice! :”(.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Does the popularity of Chippendales, Thunder Down Under and the Magic Mike movies mean men are valuable for their abs and pecs?

Latte Cat
Latte Cat
8 years ago

Generally speaking, real economists don’t consider “a simple walk in the public” to be a substitute for actual data.

THIS. This is basically the crux of it; for all the pretentiousness and insistence that they know what’s best for the world, they never actually act on it themselves, and what they actually do does not reflect what they think other people should be doing. They’re pathetic.
Also – the “Alt Right Dogs” trailer will always be a classic display of their incompetence. Incompetence by their own standards, that is. Look at them – do you really think they reflect the ideal of the Non-Cuck Manly Masculine Man they constantly rave about?
It would be so interesting to see the world from such a screwed perspective. It takes a LOT of bitterness to view society in such a way. Not surprisingly, a lot of Nazi ideas and policies we studied for GCSE are very similar to the general “manosphere” outlook. Not an exaggeration. Their ideas about men and women and the roles they should fulfil are pretty much indistinguishable. Not to mention the views on racism, immigration etc., which may as well have been copied word for word from Mein Kampf into these clowns’ blog posts.

Jayne
Jayne
8 years ago

I have heard that people tend to have romantic/sexual relationships with people of a similar level of attractiveness to themselves.
This would be a problem for a bunch of guys who think they are the paragon of manly attractiveness and also think that any lady who isn’t a D-cup with a teeny barbie waist and perfect hair is too ugly to look at.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
8 years ago

What’s a woman? (a woman, a woman, a woman)
What’s a woman? (a woman, a woman, a woman)
I ask and ask again but you look right through me
Seems I’m not the kind of woman you see

I came up on the side out of curiosity
Askin’ around to know
How deep does the rabbit hole go?
And folks quite your type I believed were the key
To probing the depths of the den
But here we go again

What’s a woman? (a woman, a woman, a woman)
What’s a woman? (a woman, a woman, a woman)
Try to grab your attention for quite a spell
Don’t even have the mind to tell me to go to hell

I’m coming to a conclusion, if you can’t tell
‘Bout people with your eyes
There’s nothing to disguise
The info’s coming to me as clear as a bell
I could go on and on
But that wouldn’t make a very good song

What’s a woman? (a woman, a woman, a woman)
What’s a woman? (a woman, a woman, a woman)
To you, a vacant piece of eye candy
Standin’ around and lookin’ awful pretty

Now, I don’t exactly fit that model of thinkin’
So it’s no wonder you won’t look me in the eye
I’m guessin’ if an a-fab, feminine-presenting fella doesn’t please your [BLEEP], then
You pretend not to notice, whistlin’ Dixie as you pass by
Because where do we fit in your…very strange worldview?
We ain’t gussied up sittin’ round like Peach or Daisy
Your fantasies are such that we can get by with a pretty pout or two
And hence, by that logic, we’re willfully lazy

But the truth is we’re not all conventional, you’re staring at the sky
Letting the blazin’ rays of the sun bleach your virgin eyes
Blindin’ yourself to us by your side, tryin’ to ask somethin’ on a whim
You’ve allowed your view of the real world to become frightfully dim

Stop starin’ at the big burnin’ orb in the sky
Don’t think about askin’ the big fella “why”
Just let your eyes adjust, and look around you, please
The women that you speak of are these

Not conventionally attractive
Varying levels of active
Just like your XY (though that don’t mean a guy), we try and we try, yet the bar’s set so high, to get past it some die, others merely cry, not all see eye to eye…yet we’re human, is our existence subtractive?

What’s a woman? (a woman, a woman, a woman)
What’s a woman? (a woman, a woman, a woman)
A human female (as one identified)
But you can’t see it ’cause your eyes are fried

What’s a woman? (a woman, a woman, a woman)
What’s a woman? (a woman, a woman, a woman)
A person not wholly unlike me
But you’ve sealed off your ears now, apparently

Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

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I’m going back to the articles with all the cool music recs ‘scue.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
8 years ago

During my hospitalization last year, I had a number of nurses looking after me. (ICU nurses are the best!) One of my favorites was one who was in her 50s and would be scorned by the MRA/MGTOW contingent for not only being past the wall but not pretty enough.

Lemme tell ya, when you’re on oxygen and scared you might not live through the night, the sexual market value of your nurse is the least of your concerns.

PS – And just to be fair, I had male nurses on my medical team. None as cute as my husband, but valued all the same.

Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
8 years ago

Hmmm… has Clarey considered what the reign of his idol trump (ok, I don’t KNOW if he’s a trumpling, but I’m willing to stick my neck out on that one) is going to do to all those STEM jobs the hot babes are supposed to be studying for??

ETA; Troubelle, good stuff!

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
8 years ago

This guy is a complete and utter moron.

I have nothing else to say about that.

HeinzDoof
HeinzDoof
8 years ago

The sheer incompetence of that trailer is killing me.

1) If you’re gonna rip off a classic film, lean into that fucker. Those guys need to be the in black suits with skinny ties. They need to be shot in slow motion. They need to all walk with authority.

2) It’s called depth of field, look into it.

3) It’s called composition, look into it.

4) Cut to the tempo of your music.

5) Stop editing with a potato.

LindsayIrene
8 years ago

I’ll be damned if I let a man wearing a tucked in ‘I heart NY’ tee tell me what I should do with my appearance.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
8 years ago

Troubelle, did you write that??

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

So, what’s with these dudes and their obsession with engineering? It’s always one of the manosphere approved occupations. Half the trolls we get here claim to be engineers.

I think it’s because law and medicine have become so much less male dominated as of late. So they pick the most stereotyped as male job they can think of and worship it.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
8 years ago

@PeeVee

Yup. There’s a reason I’m a Bard. I’ve been writing lyrics on here since, oh, about December 10 of last year. Weird Eddie can tell you all about it. I’ve gone up and down in production, but…that right there is all me.

Kivutar
Kivutar
8 years ago

Engineering student about to graduate here: the guys in my class aren’t this kind of dumbass, because they have better things to do with their time. Bet these guys only claim to be engineers because they are misinterpreting “stripping column”, “orifice”, “thrust shaft coupling”, etc.

Engineering is fun if you are mentally thirteen years old, though.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
8 years ago

Troubelle, I know you have been writing lyrics; I’ve even heard dlouwe’s melody put to your lyrics…I know the reason you’re called a Bard.

You’re very talented. I just wanted to make sure before I started Googling YouTube for the song, lolol. Because it’s glorious!

Sarity
Sarity
8 years ago

“[T]here’s a very valuable economic lesson here that all women, but especially western one’s need to learn,” Clary mansplains. “And that is what determines their economic value.”

Oh make no mistake asshole, most women are well aware of your and other like-minded knuckle draggers’ ideas for where our roles and values lie. We just reject them for being entirely full of shit.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
8 years ago

@PeeVee

Hyeh, sorry about that. I’d rather make sure you know than leave you high and dry.

Feel free to cover it, if that’s your jam. Just lend me credit…and royalties, if it gets to that point.

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@WWTH

So, what’s with these dudes and their obsession with engineering? It’s always one of the manosphere approved occupations. Half the trolls we get here claim to be engineers.

I think it’s because law and medicine have become so much less male dominated as of late. So they pick the most stereotyped as male job they can think of and worship it.

I think it’s got more to do with the ‘we built everything’ routine. Their thinking is that Engineer=Dams, bridges, computers, guns=civilisation. So engineers are therefore the most important people in the world, and are (supposedly) all men, therefore men built everything significant, QED. It really demonstrates the utter paucity of their understanding of history, sociology, economics, or indeed anything to do with human societies whatsoever.

Moggie
Moggie
8 years ago

WWTH:

So, what’s with these dudes and their obsession with engineering? It’s always one of the manosphere approved occupations. Half the trolls we get here claim to be engineers.

Leaving aside the 329-year-olds, what proportion are software “engineers”, though? Scare quotes because it’s not really engineering if you don’t need to wear PPE.

Patricia Kayden
Patricia Kayden
8 years ago

Thank goodness we live in a world where men like Clarey don’t get to determine how women are valued. We are much more than our looks and Clarey cannot stand the fact that women are able to survive without depending on men like him.

Paradoxical Intention - Leader of the Deathclaw Damsels

And the reason why is that half the world’s population (the would be men) demand it. And not only do they demand it, they demand it highly.

Well, if I fill one hand with men’s “demands”, and the other with shit, guess which one I’ll fucking care about first?

Look, I’ve already piled up all the fucks I give about what men demand and would pay for!
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Being the most demanded commodity in the history of the world is an added bonus and additional choice conferred upon pretty, young women in addition to the same career choices men have.

Because it’s not like men aren’t models and are in high demand because of their smokin’ good looks.
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Poor thing must be crushed that he can’t be a model!

Based on declared college majors and a simple walk in the public [sic], the majority of women are neither majoring in STEM nor maintaining their beauty. They are instead opting to major in the liberal arts and eschewing the gym, neither of which are in demand in the real world. And the reason why is very simple. Hitting the gym and studying math is hard.

Or it could be that women are pressured against going into STEM fields because of sexism and many of us realize we weren’t put on this earth to be your pretty little commodities, but facts have obviously never stopped you before.

To maintain your physical beauty you have to diet, eat right, run, work out and exercise. Additionally for women they must comport themselves accordingly, wear the right fashion, all of which is an effective and taxing part time job.

Well, brownie points for at least admitting that putting on a nice outfit isn’t as easy as some dudes would like to think it is.

You may find this insulting, you may find this offensive, but the real world of economics does not care about your feelings or what you’d like.

Funnily enough, the real world doesn’t care enough to conform to your boner feelings faux-economics either!

The real world demands engineers, computer programmers, doctors, accountants, plumbers, and electricians.

As a graphic designer: You better pray you don’t ever need a logo.

Or a package. Or a branding scheme.

Or anything designed involving colors, type, or images.

Do not men have the right to like what they like? Are they not allowed to be free to have tastes and preferences?

Oh, absolutely! Men are free to like what they like and have tastes and preferences!

However, the flip side of that is I’m free to not give a shit about them.

Which is where we find the source of the issue. Clarey seems to think that only women have to conform to this “economic plan” of his. Not a word about what men have to do. Just that women have to all be pretty eye-candy and work in STEM or snag a rich husband.

See, I’m also free to like what I like, and have my own tastes and preferences, and men are free to not give a shit about that either.

Glorious things, free will and individuality.

The problem in thinking there’s something wrong with men for being attracted to female youth and beauty (as they have been since time immemorial) is that it is women forcing their desires on other people.

Yeah, how dare we tell men that we don’t want them to judge us for not being an effortless HB10, and wanting to do something with our lives that they don’t personally approve of!

And how dare we tell men that women aren’t theirs to ogle as they please!

And you can call it whatever euphemistic phrase academia has concocted to make it sound valid, good, and noble, but when you boil it down, it’s nothing more than rank tyranny

Women not wanting to be pretty eye-candy STEM scientists is tyranny! Tyranny I say!

LindsayIrene
8 years ago

Musing to myself: Huh. When I’m out in public, all the people that catch my eye are women. Maybe I should just start considering myself a lesbian? [sees a pic of Jason Momoa] Hold up.

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