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Women don’t belong in nerd-friendly “male spaces,” because nerd girls are ugly, MGTOW explains

Pew! Pew! Pew!

We’ve been treated, over the years, to endless misogynist manifestos declaring that nerdy hobbies like comic books and video games should be kept free from pesky females, for all sorts of ridiculous reasons that usually come back to some allegedly innate characteristics of males and females that show that only men can appreciate said hobbies and that all of the women who claim to like them are only pretending, because really what they want is endless attention from nerdy dudes.

I recently ran across one of these manifestos in the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit. While it was full of the same tired old BIOTRUTHS as most “male space” manifestos — only dudes “are wired to be adept at tasks with inanimate objects,” only dudes have the necessary “diligence” to be true fans — this manifesto offered another powerful(ly dumb) anti-nerd-girl argument I don’t think I’ve encountered before: Nerd girls should be kept out of male hobbies because they’re a bunch of icky uggoes, “sub-4 at best.”

Let’s let the somewhat ironically named NuclearTruthBomb explain this particular “truth.”

The simple fact of the matter is that most women are not, and never will be, into the activities of low-status, but intelligent males. Yes, a few exist. My sister loves drawing, animation, and even video games. But she’s also on the upper end of the autism spectrum, and pretty unattractive.

Dude, really? She’s your SISTER.

Women have status simply by existing. There is only a very small number of girls who are so hideous, no man will show interest in them.

Empathy, not a big thing amongst MGTOWs.

Being a nerd if often considered a sign of low status. Trust me, none of us got laid for being on the chess team. Because women are so concerned about appearences, they will refuse to associate with nerds by default.

So that means, natch, that the only “females” who want to have anything to do with male nerds will be the ugly uggoes.

Male nerds tend to range from perfectly average to the bottom of the barrel. Female nerds however, are sub-4 at best, genetically cursed at worst. They were rejected by the popular girls a long time ago, and will wear a shirt that screams YAOI FAN for a modicum of attention.

These discrepancies cause female geeks to be not only low in number, but of poor quality in general. 

And now a cameo appearance by Chad Thundercock, or at least his brothers Brad, Joe, and Darren Thundercock, as well as their cousin Bill BigDick and his friend Tyrone.

Ironically, while women will forever flock to the sports stadium of Brads and Joes, nerds will spell the future for the human race. The guy who gets shoved in the mud by Bill BigDick this decade will be inventing the technology of the next one. The quirky glasses wearing freak will create that game Darren plays after Daisy gives him a rimjob. And all those countless code monkeys will be responsible for the social media websites she meets Tyrone on.

To do list:

  1. Shove nerd in mud
  2. Rimjob w/ Daisy
  3. Vidya Games

Only when these nerdy dudes get super rich will the hotties have any interest in them.

Once she realizes that these men are making bank, she’ll try to swing branches. And many simpanzees will takeher anyways. Us on the other hand, can enjoy our own specific tastes without worrying “Buh-buh-buh, what would Sally think of this!?”

MGTOWs have turned “stewing in your own bitterness about women possibly giving other dudes rimjobs” into America’s fastest-growing hobby. This is a male space no one should want to invade.

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PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

Ah, the Batman/Joker Great Boner War of ’51.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

🎶Boner boner boner boner boner chameleon

🎶You come and go, you come and go

Matchstick
Matchstick
3 years ago

@BoinkBoink

Is part of the problem a mistaken belief that the statements
“X is an legitimate art form”
and
“X can portray material I find problematic”
are mutually exclusive ?

BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
3 years ago

Yes…it’s like how I don’t like caramel flavor in ice cream and coffee, and I hate how caramel candy sticks to my teeth, but that doesn’t mean I believe caramel isn’t a legitimate flavor, or that it’s an inferior flavor and shouldn’t be allowed to be mixed into anything for anyone, or that it should just be wiped from existence, or that caramel is a ((((Jewish)))) conspiracy to erode the teeth of the white man.

You can dislike or complain about something aesthetically as your opinion, you can pick out it’s problematic elements (homophobia, misogyny, violence, etc.) that you think shouldn’t be there…but that’s NOT censorship. Censorship is what the alt-right wants: complete control over the mediums of expression they disapprove of, from music to interracial relationships. All while they accuse femizanis of being the censorship vehicles.

It would almost be funny if it wasn’t so damaging.

I’m also pretty proud of myself…I wrote all that before I’ve even had coffee or wine.

http://static.tumblr.com/9d292335bd9a18d44033adca11f58c10/xuvhb6g/Hcgnou1es/tumblr_static_a77m55etxts04ogckw8ksc8ck.gif

You’re welcome!

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

I am simply not surprised at all that Humbug doesn’t have a clue about women’s orgasms, being as he was simutaneously bragging about having the latest Iphone while blaming us because he’s too dumb to know how to use it.

ETA: BoinkBoink, thank you for the TH gif. PeeVee approved.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

Humbug’s decided to ignore anything related to his little alternative medical fact. Humbug, why do you ignore actual medical facts when you’re provided with them ?

Could it be that you don’t actually care about facts and just wanted bullshit proof for the bullshit speculation you’ve been making regarding a bullshit point ?

Could that denial of anything that contradicts your bullshit be the exact same thing you’ve been doing here for the last 2-3 days ?

In other words, you’re getting boring, troll.

Tahia
Tahia
3 years ago

Bit late, but about the “women can’t orgasm” thing… Years ago there was a troll on here (Arks?) who very confidently told us all that he had never seen a woman enjoy sex, so obviously all the women reporting positive experiences were wrong.

He did not seem to realise how much more that told us about him than about women.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

@Tahia,

Oh, Arks was truly a gifted wordsmith.

He is the one who gave WHTM such works of art as “slobbering crotch maws” and “hot buttered manatees.”

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

“Hot buttered manatees” sounds like a recipe that neural network would create. Goes well with Beef style salmon chicken bottoms.

Tahia
Tahia
3 years ago

Wasn’t there also something about a gleaming horse of opulent arian intellect? 🙂

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@Tahia

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This is a gleaming horse. I couldn’t find any “opulent aryan intellect” tho.

BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
3 years ago

Well thanks y’all, now my bowl of soup just seems super boring and unsatisfying. *spoons it mournfully*

Tahia
Tahia
3 years ago

@John

That *is* a gleaming horse. 🙂
Wouldn’t know what the other thing looks like, so your guess is at least as good as mine.

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@Tahia

Wasn’t there also something about a gleaming horse of opulent arian intellect? 🙂

I don’t think Arianism is really a thing anymore. The various inquisitions stomped that particular branch of christian theology awfully hard.

@Boink

rap, a musical genre generally known for it’s heavy misogyny,

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The claim that rap is notably more misogynistic than other popular* musical genres is based in racism.

*and for that matter less popular; folk music’s full of rapey shite.

Tahia
Tahia
3 years ago

@Dalillama

Wasn’t me talking about that shit! Just walking down memory lane to old trolls.

BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
3 years ago

I wasn’t declaring rap the Most Misogynistic of Them All, I was pointing out that Humbug’s assertion that we only support art if it’s matriarchal and anti-hetero and steeped in feminazi propaganda is ridiculous and ill-timed, because on another article we’re defending rap as legit music from a white supremacist.

So I’m not sure why you’re trying to prove I’m racist for noting that the rap genre has rampant misogyny in the context of the conversation? Thanks for playing though I guess?

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Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

@Dalillama

Considering the article covers pretty much just gangsta rap, I wonder how they’d feel about horrorcore? Whole genre filled with people pretending to be serial killers. Every song is like the rap from Scary Movie. The most well known name in horrorcore, I think, is the Insane Clown Posse. I haven’t heard anything about them being controversial since…the 90s I think.

People don’t even find Marilyn Manson that controversial anymore, but mainstream rap is always controversial.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
3 years ago

The claim that rap is notably more misogynistic than other popular* musical genres is based in racism.

While this is true, Boink didn’t say that it’s more misogynistic, only that it is misogynistic. Which is also true.

@Boink

Hey, it was just a misinterpretation, no need to be rude about it.

Viscaria the Cheese Hog
Viscaria the Cheese Hog
3 years ago

Hey, the troll started putting paragraph breaks in! I can read his stuff now!

“Diversity”, eh ? Considering, the current puritanical prudishness among the millennial sjw feminazi tumblrinas and their white knights, as reflected in the “sexing-down-and-out” of popular culture in the mass media in the West recently, this would be the specific “diversity” of that certain sexaphobic demographic that gave us burqa, the hijab, the niqab, and the burkini, eh?

Huh. It’s… It’s not an improvement.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
3 years ago

Hey, it was just a misinterpretation, no need to be rude about it.

*Misunderstanding, that’s the word I was looking for. I can’t brain before coffee.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

Can we resolve misunderstandings among ourselves in a friendlier manner and keep the sarcasm and gifs for trolly if and when he comes back ?

Dali simply pointed something out, and perhaps it didn’t actually require pointing out. But what goes without saying goes better when you do say it, and it’s not like Boink’s phrasing was exactly unambiguous.

Would be cool if we all refrained from jumping at each other’s throat like tigers on cocaine. That’s what trolls are for.

@Jack

What if I told you there’s a French feminist dude who does horrorcore.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
3 years ago

@Jack

I kinda liked Ganksta N-I-P. 🙂

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
3 years ago

jumping at each other’s throat like tigers on cocaine

That was ONE tiger, ONE time! As if you’ve never done cocaine and bit someone in the neck, hypocrite! 😉

Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

What if I told you there’s a French feminist dude who does horrorcore.

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French horrorcore you say?

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@Imaginary Petal

As if you’ve never done cocaine and bit someone in the neck, hypocrite!

The worst part is when I realize that yeah, I might actually have done that.

@Jack

It’s a thing, and it’s actually pretty good. Here’s an example, though it’s not the aforementioned feminist – though at least one of these three guys (first voice) is usually regarded as an ally.

Nothing to do with those clowns y’all got over there.

BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
3 years ago

@SFHC

Hey, it was just a misinterpretation, no need to be rude about it.

No it wasn’t. I don’t assume Dalillama ever addresses me in good faith. They’ve proven that in the past. So no, considering the source, it wasn’t a “misinterpretation” or whatever. Completely ignoring the entire fucking context of a conversation to call someone racist isn’t a “whoops har har!” kind of conversational misstep.

Guess they’re the only one allowed to be deliberately rude?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@SJ

keep the sarcasm and gifs for trolly

I use sarcasm and gifs on almost every post, trolls or arguments with regular posters or not. It had nothing to do with trying to be extra special rude to Dali.
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Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

Yeah, I can’t think of a right way to respond to that, just gonna shut up now. Just, please, don’t escalate this.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
3 years ago

Being deliberately snarky with regular posters is a surefire way to cause drama. Just saying. #hashtag

Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

Nothing to do with those clowns y’all got over there.

You say that like I ever cared about them lol.

Horrorcore is something I’ve had trouble getting into because it seems like it’s comprised almost entirely of white men. I mean, so is nerdcore but most nerdcore I’ve heard is pretty benign PLUS you got duos like Soup or Villainz (who I super recommend). And like…I don’t need to hear all these white men talking about only feeling rage and stalking and murdering, if you understand. It kinda makes me pretty uncomfortable.

*coughdylanroofcoughcolmbinecoughelliotrodgerscough*

I should check out Ganksta N-I-P, though.

EDIT: ALSO what you linked was really good, and I wish I was better with French. I can read it alright but listening is another story.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

Tahia, I’m not sure if that was Arks or Monsieur Sans Nom. (Om nom nom.) Could even be Antz…

Probably Arks, though. They all blend together, really.

BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
3 years ago

@SJ

Just, please, don’t escalate this.

Are you kidding? Why is the burden of all this on me? We were having a perfectly fine conversation until Dali DELIBERATELY MISINTERPRETED WHAT I SAID TO ACCUSE ME OF RACISM. I mean…seriously??? Am I not allowed to respond to defend myself from that kind of shit? And she gets a pass for that kind of duplicitous bullshit just because…why? I’m genuinely curious as to the exact thought process behind all this.

@IP

Being deliberately snarky with regular posters is a surefire way to cause drama.

I had a feeling you based it more on longevity than logic.

Considering she was deliberately snarky once with PeeVee, also a regular poster, and that was apparently hunkey dorey, my hypothesis has been confirmed.

(Look ma, no gifs! For now….)

Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

…ANYWAY

Some Soup or Villainz. A masterpiece.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@Jack

it seems like it’s comprised almost entirely of white men

It does. I’ve got so few counter-examples it’s fucking ridiculous.

I don’t need to hear all these white men talking about only feeling rage and stalking and murdering, if you understand.

That’s what I meant when I said “those clowns”, heh. The French ones rather tend to point at and denounce white male rage, rather than take it as a mantle or something. The general themes are also pretty different.

Like, I dunno, when it comes to hip-hop I’m pretty sure the only thing we do about the same way as Americans is gangsta rap. Everything else has major differences and though it bears the same subgenre label it just sounds nothing like. Guess that’s why we so insistently make the distinction between US rap and French rap ?

Here‘s a feminist Lebanese-Swiss woman who often works with the guy I linked to above. She often wanders into territory that is more often associated with French horrorcore (which at this point should be referred to as francophone horrorcore). Also she’s a fucking genius with words, it’s just ridiculous at this point. Like, can you stop making the rest of us sound like grossly inadequate cave-dwellers ?

So yeah teal dear, I think I had a point about themes commonly associated with horrorcore but then I forgot.

ETA : @Boink

Ehh… I was talking about precisely this. Please don’t do this. I’m gonna stop responding now, until this whole thing is defused. Don’t take it as me ignoring or dismissing you, I just don’t want to contribute to more acrymony.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

DAMN, that’s a brilliant vid, Handsome Jack.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
3 years ago

I had a feeling you based it more on longevity than logic.

Oh God, you’re not seriously pulling an “ALL FEELZ, NO REALZ” on IP, are you?

Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

@John

Yeah, I used to be more into French rap when I was in high school but I kinda fell out of it since it isn’t as readily available. I’d probably get more into French horrorcore if I can find any good peeps to listen to.

DAMN, that’s a brilliant vid, Handsome Jack.

Listen, they haven’t produced anything together in 5 years and their videos barely have 5,000 views each, both official and not.

They are HIGHLY underrated.

And, just tossing this out there but all their albums are free and they offer open source tracks to remix.

The world is too good for Soup or Villainz but we need them, desperately.

Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

Fuck, I meant Soup or Villainz is too good for the world. Fuck.

In my defense, I have a caffeine headache.

guest
guest
3 years ago

‘The only thing that I think is in a slump is the Hollywood movie.’

True, but Arrival and Hidden Figures! (I can’t remember the last time I went out of my way to see a movie, and there’s two within a couple months of each other.)

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

Fuck, I meant Soup or Villainz is too good for the world. Fuck.

I knew exactly what you meant without your clarification.

GMTA?

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
3 years ago

@Boink

I probably haven’t seen the comment you’re referring to. I don’t read 100% of all comments here. Having said that, two wrongs don’t make a right. Y’know, since we’re on the topic of logic and all. Also, why are you trying to bait me? I’m not biting, but just stop it. It’s kinda annoying.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@Jack

Do you have any idea how long dj dude and I have had a whole instrumental based on sampling precisely that Harry Potter soundtrack, just sitting there waiting for the day we actually write lyrics for it ?

Guess at least now it won’t bother us anymore, heh. Dj dude and I have a thing for that kind of piano*. Like, we’ve used the Gwyn, Lord of Cinders theme from Dark Souls. Then the person the lyrics were about turned into a fucking nazi and we swore never to speak of this shit again. Or at least we’ll swear next time I see him.

On French horrorcore, I wanna recommend VII. Just, all the trigger warnings ever. Not for all songs, actually that’s about a third of them, but that third is real nasty if you’re not prepared for exactly that. The dude has all the morbid fascinations one can have. On the other hand, the other two-thirds are far removed from anything you could call horrorcore. There’s of course the political stuff, but what’s more unique to that guy are the very personal ones that go into themes like mental illness and alienation.

And then there’s the really unusual themes like paganism and all things remotely related. Some lovecraftian stuff too, and some satanism (not strawman satanism, more of the flavor that states that religion is obscurantism, and that it’s fitting to advocate against it under the name of the fictional demon that it depicts knowledge as). And sometimes he uses the unusual themes in a political point. Here’s one of those. It’s about witches and the way they were hunted down and murdered by fanatics. The title comes from a book written by a self-described witch who lives not far from my town and really isn’t worth mentionning beyond that book ’cause apparently it’s the only one she’s written that isn’t problematic as all fuck according to every pagan I know.

I’ve already talked about that dude here, but hey. One teal dear doesn’t cover it.

*ETA not a piano at all but I’m already high and it’s difficult to put thoughts into words when I dunno the relevant vocabulary in English. I meant that kind of something else but the edit window’s running out on me and I don’t have time to clarify.

Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

GMTA?

You could put it that way yeah.

@John

I just put YouTube on autoplay and Un singe en hiver? C’est exceptionnel. Of course I have a weakness for more dancey tracks, too, although I worry about what’s being said because I don’t know what is being said…

Do you have any idea how long dj dude and I have had a whole instrumental based on sampling precisely that Harry Potter soundtrack, just sitting there waiting for the day we actually write lyrics for it ?

Too long.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
3 years ago

Speaking of horrorcore, the artist called Tommy Lee (not the dick-honking Tommy Lee) got immensely popular in Jamaica a few years ago with his goth-ish horrorcore-ish dancehall style. I’ve probably posted some of his stuff before, but here are two examples in case Jack or John or anyone else would be interested:

His songs and videos started a national demon/devil panic in hyper-Christian Jamaica, when he was the most visible artist in dancehall for a short while in 2012-13. His relevance is not huge at this moment, but he’s definitely one of the most influential dancehall artists of this decade.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

Hol up. I don’t feel like getting into some shit… but I’m thinking I’m about to get into some shit

DELIBERATELY MISINTERPRETED WHAT I SAID TO ACCUSE ME OF RACISM

Uhm… Nah… On many levels
1)a call out isn’t an accusation. Or it needn’t be
2)unless you’re brown, and probably even if you are, being a smidge racist is more or less unavoidable
3)do chill. Having something you said called racist… Well, look what thread we’re on. It’s OK to discuss the potentially problematic elements of a person’s words, as with their hobbies, without it being a reflection of that person’s worth

In the parlance of my people (black folk on the interwebs):
Have a seat. Have multiple seats…

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

The gleaming opulent Aryan horse thing was Ideologue Review/Fact finder. He’s the troll who came up with a never developed video game called Preggo Punch out.

In other news, I just got my first catcaller of the spring.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
3 years ago

@wwth

I just got my first catcaller of the spring.

Congratulations! You saved an entitled dickbag from exploding by letting him blurt out some words at you! 🙂

Seriously though, I’m sorry this asshat was an asshat in your direction.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

WWTH: oh, that’s right, him!

He was…something else.

Have you any idea whatever happened to Owly? Shaenon’s Big Book ‘O Learnin never fails to make me laugh.

Or Meller and his dolls…

Remember Pell? Oh, lawd…

Them were de dayz.

(Sorry about your catcall.)

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@Jack

That’d be her first album’s DRUNK song. I think she’s planning on doing one every album. It’s less serious than the rest of her stuff but I think you can rest easy about what’s being said. Like, it’s just, booze – bar – punks – booze – are these dudes fighting outside ? – booze. Also as a general rule she don’t do problematic. She can get pretty violent, but she punches up.

Fun fact : the one time I saw her in concert, she drank me literally under a table afterward. Then carried my woozy ass somewhere safe and quiet so I could rest a bit. And that, kids, is why I can’t drink scotch anymore.

Look, just, all La Gale ever, everything. These days I’ve got this on loop.