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Is confessed racist killer James Jackson the first MGTOW murderer?

Timothy Caughman: Murdered by a MGTOW?

Hate speech has consequences.

The Daily Beast suggests that accused killer James Jackson — who told police and the New York Daily News that he stabbed an elderly black man to death as a sort of “trial run” for a planned terrorist massacre of black men in Times Square —  was radicalized, at least in part, by watching alt-right and white supremacist videos on YouTube.

As the Daily Beast notes, in recent months

Jackson’s YouTube page, where he had previously listened to the Final Fantasy soundtrack and liked a British royal family video, lit up with likes on videos about white superiority and “black on white crimes”.

He subscribed to dozens of YouTube channels heavy on alt-right propaganda and conspiracy theorizing, ranging from well-known names like Alex Jones and  Stefan Molyneux to obscure characters with names like CYBERNAZI and Alt-Right Andy. He also told the Daily News he was a reader of The Daily Stormer.

His statements to police and the media seem to reflect a man steeped in the toxic ideology of the alt-right, and obsessed with the alleged danger of “race mixing.” Angered by seeing black men with blonde white women, Jackson told the Daily News that he hoped that his planned Times Square massacre would somehow convince white women to reconsider dating black men.

But a closer look at his comments — and his YouTube subscriptions — suggests that Jackson may have been influenced as much by the Men Going Their Own Way movement as he has been by the alt-right.

Indeed, his YouTube subscriptions are heavier on MGTOW channels than on explicitly alt-right ones, including relatively well-known MGTOWs like Bar Bar and Sandman as well as lesser-knowns like Angry MGTOW and MGTOW is Freedom.

The MGTOW movement is an angrier and more nihilistic cousin to the now-languishing Men’s Rights movement. While MRAs like to at least pretend they want to do something about real issues affecting men (circumcision, workplace safety and of course the alleged epidemic of false rape accusations), MGTOWs feel no such compunction, devoting themselves wholeheartedly to misogynistic ravings about the alleged evils of women.

Like their close cousins the Incels (INvoluntary CELibates), MGTOWS are obsessed with, and furious over, the penchant of women to date men other than them. They complain endlessly that women throw themselves at the mythical alpha male known as “Chad” and his black “thug” counterpart “Tyrone.” (Yes, they’re that blatantly racist about it.)

Jackson’s post-arrest comments echo these obsessions using similar language. He told the Daily News that he regretted killing an elderly homeless man, wishing that he instead had killed “a successful older black man with blonds” or a “young thug,” one of “these younger guys that put white girls on the wrong path.”

Like many MGTOWs and alt-rightists alike, Jackson is also obsessed with female fertility, telling the Daily News that “good white women should have as many children as possible.”

With MGTOWS becoming more explicitly racist and antifeminist alt-rightists attempting to draw members from both the MGTOW and Men’s Rights Movements, it’s becoming harder to tell the difference between MGTOWs and neo-Nazis. As I pointed out in a recent post, “many … lady-hating MGTOWs are turning to the more comprehensive bigotry of the alt-right.”

Jackson’s vile actions — seemingly motivated equally by alt-right racism and MGTOW-style sexual envy —  shows what this sort of convergence can look like.

He was charged today with “murder as an act of terrorism” for the killing of Timothy Caughman.

H/T — @TakeDownMRAs

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Rob
Rob
7 years ago

MGTOWS are obsessed with, and furious over, the penchant of women to date men other than them. They complain endlessly that women throw themselves at the mythical alpha male known as “Chad”

This entire statement is false. You’re confusing PUA and some Red Pill guys with MGTOW, which is a totally different thing.

MGTOW at its core is about opting out of certain aspects of society in a peaceful way.

Like many MGTOWs and alt-rightists alike, Jackson is also obsessed with female fertility

MGTOWs are completely indifferent to female fertility.

Do your research before spreading misinformation. It almost seems as if this was intentional with hidden agenda.

dlouwe
dlouwe
7 years ago

Molyneux is intelligent.

[citation required]

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
7 years ago

Molyneux is barely more articulate than the standard everyday-use alt-righter, that’s about the only difference. Doesn’t mean more intelligent, and it doesn’t mean he isn’t a standard everyday-use alt-righter.

If this troll’s just gonna do random drive-bys with different names and not even pay attention when we call ’em out on it, should we just ask David to not let them through moderation at their next name change ?

’cause I dunno about y’all but I think the entertainment value in that kind of troll is pretty damn limited.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
7 years ago

Molyneux is barely more articulate than the standard everyday-use alt-righter, that’s about the only difference.

… And considering that the standard alt-rightist thinks “LIBT**D CUCKS DAY O FROP” is a sentence, that’s really not saying much.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
7 years ago

Yeah, Molyneux understands grammar, if nothing else. Doesn’t make much of a difference since he still doesn’t understand what words mean. Or how anything else works, really.

Fuckin’ magnets.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

’cause I dunno about y’all but I think the entertainment value in that kind of troll is pretty damn limited.

I KNOW!! He’s not even trying. Sigh.

Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

This entire statement is false. You’re confusing PUA and some Red Pill guys with MGTOW, which is a totally different thing.

MGTOW at its core is about opting out of certain aspects of society in a peaceful way.

Do your research before spreading misinformation. It almost seems as if this was intentional with hidden agenda.

http://static.tumblr.com/647ca0ced3a990bb406ce44b8369c68c/nefefsv/yIJo0bfoy/tumblr_static_ab06lnt15qg44s04kgkg4c8gw.jpg

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
7 years ago

@Handsome Jack

my throat is sore why must you make me laugh so

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
7 years ago

@Rob

Oooh, hello.

It’s been a while since I’ve heard the “peaceful MGTOW” thing. This should be interesting.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago
Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

my throat is sore why must you make me laugh so

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I’m not here for your entertainment

(I hope your throat gets better, though. If you don’t know but gargling with warm salt water will numb your throat if it’s strep or cold or whatever related. Just tossing that out there.)

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
7 years ago

This makes me think if fertility rates could be considered a “thermometer” to measure how many Mgtows there are in a country. Because if more and more men become MGTOWs, I think that less and less children will born, since one of our advices is to avoid children. Of course, this is not an exact and precise thermometer, but there are some influences between fertility rates and men avoiding marriage.

This is beautiful.

Pure, unadulterated stupid. Crystal duh.

Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
7 years ago

The best thing about the links you just posted, Allan, is that the first reply in the “birth rates” thread also mentions Chad.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ viscaria

I aim to please. 🙂

ETA: being me of course the most annoying thing I find about the comment John referenced is the use of ‘less’ rather than ‘fewer’ 🙂

Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
7 years ago

I spelled your name wrong again. Damn it. Sorry.

IgnoreSandra
IgnoreSandra
7 years ago

“peaceful MGTOWs” are like non-threatening tanks: They don’t exist, the concept of their existence is ridiculous, and if they existed they would directly eliminate the POINT of their own existence.

Tanks are war machines, intended to destroy and dominate, the threat is built into them as much as their armor and weapons. A tank that wasn’t threatening would defeat the point of tanks existing because it would be incapable of accomplishing it’s reason for being.

MGTOWs are the same, and anyone who’s been paying any attention at all to the reactionary assholes who call themselves mig-toes can see what I’m getting at here.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ viscaria

No worries. My mum gets my name wrong all the time and I’m an only child.

“Hi Mum”

“Hello, who’s that?”

??!!

“Oh hi Harry”

“That’s your brother”

“Sorry; Owen”

“That’s your other brother”

Etc.

😀

(my mum’s lovely and very smart but the name thing does seem to run in the family)

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
7 years ago
IgnoreSandra
IgnoreSandra
7 years ago

@Sinkable John

I don’t really know to react to that. Tanks can go their own way too. So can most modern weapons.

Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

“peaceful MGTOWs” are like non-threatening tanks: They don’t exist, the concept of their existence is ridiculous, and if they existed they would directly eliminate the POINT of their own existence.

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Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
7 years ago

@IgnoreSandra

That’s just how I like to see them treated. A wreck with naked folks dancing on it.

Incidentally, I don’t really have anything kinder to wish Miggy here.

@Jack

Okay, you win.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

@Rob, if you don’t even know what your own goddamned movement posts about, maybe you should “do your research before spreading misinformation.” Because your post “almost seems as if this was intentional with hidden agenda.”

@Alan: ?

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@Alan
Is your mum the eldest by any chance?