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It came from the comments: Artificial wombs will turn straight men gay because women suck

Makin’ babies

Another day, another drive-by misogynist commenter who ends up being even more terrible than the terrible people I wrote about in the post he’s commenting on.

Yes, it’s time for another episode of The Comments I Don’t Let Through. This time, it’s a guy calling himself DownWithWomen, commenting on my post about the lonely incel who wants a nice woman to pay attention to him — while at the same time he openly advertises his belief that women “deserve the rope.” That is, a good hanging.

DownWithWomen, by contrast, thinks that men won’t have to kill women, because women will kill themselves once the men of the world discover how awful they really are. The catalyst? Artificial wombs.

When artificial wombs are invented men won’t even have to do it, women will rope themselves as their sexual market value plus power that comes alongside it is completely destroyed.

Yet another creepy dude obsessed with (cis) women’s fertility.

But then the argument takes a somewhat unexpected turn:

[W]hen [women] start to diminish men will most likely find it viable to cross the x-y line in order to flock to cute-boys to settle down with, and marry whom don’t have the hypergamous instinct of biological females.

Incels and MGTOWs often joke about turning themselves gay in order to avoid the dreaded girl germs, but this guy is serious — if a little confused as to how sexual orientation actually works.

As soon as [artificial wombs] are invented we don’t have to put up with the bullshit of women anymore, cute-boys are more feminine than western females and always eager to please/available for sex to a partner.

Hate to tell you this dude, but I’m pretty sure the twinks of the world aren’t going to want to have sex with you either.

They are more of a woman than any western whore and at the same time if you pursue them now there is no trouble, and also no ridiculous laws on what rape is(Which is everything nowadays) protecting them.

Wait, your argument is that straight guys will turn to twinks because, hey, you can just rape them with impunity? 

Rape laws protect men too, you piece of shit.

The commenter then trots out the sad old argument that women only want macho “bad boys.”

Even if one marries a nice-guy he will only get used for his money, while she will continue to sleep around with the alpha male bad boys. The beta male nice guy will be forced to pour his resources into raising his child, which should be the responsibility of the other man and not him.

Never mind that this is not actually how the world works, and that the guys making this argument have zero proof that women routinely cheat on “betas” with “alphas” and use their allegedly superior sperm to make babies that the betas think are their own.

Women are biologically hypergamous, will always date and marry up, and even if in a relationship, a woman will immediately leave the man for a higher guy if she thinks she can land him.

And men sometimes leave women when they think they could “do better.” There’s no evidence that women are less loyal partners than men.

Women also sexually desire men who have a violent criminal record(Especially murder/assault/robbery/drugs/gangs being the top most “hot”) and wear tattoos/piercings on them. The jerks and badboys half of which being criminals, sometimes fresh out of prison/jail or bullies in school are straightforward about their sexual intentions; and masculine enough to press for it.

Well, first off, this is a giant pile of bullshit. And second, DUDE YOU JUST BASICALLY ANNOUNCED THAT YOU THINK IT WOULD BE OK FOR YOU TO RAPE GAY MEN.

You’re one of the “bad boys” you’re lambasting women for dating. Except even creepier.

But hey, thanks for sharing, I guess.

UPDATE: DownWithWomen has sent along an update of sorts:

We are talking about fem-boys you idiot. To sum things up here is a post from the 8chan /cuteboys/ section: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0R9eccUgEoH

As far as I can tell the board is devoted to young, femme gay men and crossdressers.

Fact is they are more of women than you, some claim to be straight but can be seduced still. They don’t complain often, and if they do try to cause an issue out of nowhere the gynocentric court won’t take them seriously.

So, doubling down on the rapey shit.

Women are not logical by biology, and 30% of babies born are not the husband’s baby but of alpha males.

This is not of course true. The 30% number gets bandied about because there was some study somewhere that found 30% of the time when the husband was concerned enough to demand a paternity test it turned out to not be his child.

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Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

I gotta think of something to scare them away for good.

Giant dildo bat a la Saint’s Row.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
7 years ago

Hey, look!

http://jezebel.com/scientist-prove-that-your-cat-probably-likes-you-a-lot-1793679254

Those dog people who claim our kitties don’t really like us that much are wrong!

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
7 years ago

@Penny

Problem is, bread never goes stale here – doesn’t stay around long enough. Also I don’t get the link between bread and translating “travesty” ? Parody is a pretty accurate translation though, though.

@PI

That’s pretty much exactly what I used to do ! Wouldn’t work here though, they’d just come en masse to perform an exorcism. Coming to live here may have been a mistake.

Chiomara
Chiomara
7 years ago

I can’t recall the original author, but there was a tumblr post where someone said they dyed their hair rainbow colors because children look at them as though they’re a magical fucking creature, and grown men look at them with disdain and disgust.

I read on… Somewhere once about a disabled woman (legs didn’t work) who died her hair pink. Once, a small child kept staring at her. The child said “why is your hair pink?”, and she whispered “can I tell you a secret?” the child approached her/his ear and she said “I am a mermaid in disguise! Sssssh!”. The child looked at her legs with the jaw dropped and got so excited (s)he almost cried out of joy. Every since then the woman decided to be a mermaid for a living, buy a costume, make pictures, and sell it (or something like that). It was a pretty cute story.

I for myself have very big curly hair, and decided to die it “natural red”/copper because I always found gingers unique and gorgeous and why not. It just so happens that it turned out great for me, it looked natural because I am pale with blue undertones and enhanced every feature of my face. Even the people of my family who knew me every since I was a baby either don’t notice I dyed at all or insist that was my color since always and I just brightened the tone a bit. Anyway, “Brave” came out just the same year I dyed my hair, and once I was walking around and an acquainted woman stopped to chat with me. As I mentioned, I am very tall, skinny-ish, big curly copper hair, baby face (I was 17), and I was wearing green. So, her 6 yo was looking at me with the weirdest shine in his eyes, jaw dropped and everything. I finally looked down to him, smiled and winked, his eyes went wide and he signed his mom that he wanted to tell her a secret. She came down and he whispered in her ear, she laughed and told me
“Oh, he told me that you are Merida. From that movie, you know, Brave.”
That was the most adorable thing to happen in the century for me. I asked “Wow, how did you recognize me without the bow?! It’s supposed to be a secret!”, then hugged him. Every time he saw me he was so adorably star struck, and I would say Merida-ish stuff around him to rile him up ^^. It lasted for 2 years or so, now he already grew out of it, meh. But it really was so so sweet.

Hambeast (fan of diversity)
Hambeast (fan of diversity)
7 years ago

Sinkable John – I was gonna say what Paradoxy said. But I’ve also been told by pagan friends that just wearing a pentacle is often enough to scare them off.

One time, when I was a teen, I’d been prepping salad for lunch to help my mom and answered the door to a Fuller Brush seller who skedaddled rather more quickly than normal. I didn’t realize until later that I’d probably forgotten to put down the butcher’s knife* I’d been using!

*Yes, I know! But my mom only owned one good knife, and that butcher’s knife was it. My only other choice was a cheapo freebie steak knife from the supermarket. Which was never going to work on carrots.

Paradoxical Intention: Leader of the Deathclaw Damsels

@The topic of making children awesomely happy:

One time, way back when I still had a good number of friends in the fandom I spoke to on a regular basis, I was talking in a Skype chat to some of my MLP friends. Jokingly, I did my best Pinkie Pie impersonation (which always got their attention because people say it’s apparently really spot on), and that gave one of my friends an idea.

He has a small daughter that he watches the show with and they bond over. So he asked me if he could put his daughter on the call, and I could do the voice for her.

Y’all.

Y’all.

The sheer JOY in that child’s voice added a whole decade to my life. She was just SO EXCITED to be talking to “Pinkie Pie”.

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She asked if “Pinkie Pie” could go to her cousin’s birthday party (that they were attending later that day), and sadly “Pinkie” had to decline because she lived in “Equestria” (the US), and this lovely, wonderful child lived in Australia, so she wouldn’t be able to make it in time.

Still one of the best examples of me using my powers for good.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

I dressed as Wanda from “The Fairly Oddparents” one year, as room Mom for my daughter’s 2nd Grade Halloween party. Temporarily dyed my hair pink, the whole nine yards…

I still have students from that party tell me how much they enjoyed that. (I work in my town’s library.) My daughter turns 23 in two days.

These things make a big impression on kids. I guarantee they will never forget any of us. ?

Chiomara
Chiomara
7 years ago

Awwwww, now I want to see/hear you guys doing your silly stuff.

Here’s a recent picture of me doing my silly stuff (aka being be with redhair). I decided to show my face after all this time because why the hell not, I am not even in Facebook anymore.

http://i.imgur.com/2Na0KaN.jpg

Hello guys! Das ist me! Doing my usual long faced gothy Merida Cosplay, how are you? :3

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
7 years ago

Hi Chiomara! You make a great Merida.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ Paradoxy

However, I AM TOO GODDAMNED SHORT TO USE IT A;KLSDFJA;SDLKJF

Aww, that’s one of the sweetest things I’ve ever heard.

@ chiomara

“Oh, he told me that you are Merida. From that movie, you know, Brave.”

A friend’s 8 year old was convinced I’m Gru from Despicable Me. In fairness I do have the same coat.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
7 years ago

Hello, Chio’s face! Your hair is very Disney Princess indeed 🙂

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@Chiomara
Very good Merida hair indeed.

Chiomara
Chiomara
7 years ago

Thank you for saying nice things about my hair ^^
I was self conscious of it for so long, only recently began accepting it.

@Alan
Hahaha, that’s so cute, did you do the accent? YOU GOTTA HAVE DONE THE ACCENT.

Bina
Bina
7 years ago

Okay, I’m a bit late here too, but here goes:

When artificial wombs are invented men won’t even have to do it, women will rope themselves as their sexual market value plus power that comes alongside it is completely destroyed.

Actually, when artificial wombs are invented (IF that ever happens, which I somehow strangely doubt), men are still going to look for women to have sex with, because (a) women will still be here, and (b) straight men, in any event, will still be horny for them. Also, sexual reproduction will still exist, because it always has. And “market value” will, as usual, NOT exist, because it never has. Ditto for all this alleged “power” women have over men.

They are more of a woman than any western whore and at the same time if you pursue them now there is no trouble, and also no ridiculous laws on what rape is(Which is everything nowadays) protecting them.

Actually, wrong again! Male rape does exist, as MRAs are constantly pointing out (although they seem to think it’s the only kind that does, and that jail is the only place it happens, which is all bullshit). And male-on-male rape is explicitly a product of the patriarchy. Sexual assault IS illegal, regardless of the sex of who did what to whom.

As for gay men being “more of a woman” than women, that’s a straight-up laugh. Gay men are not women. As anyone who’s ever been one, or been with one, could probably tell you.

Women are biologically hypergamous, will always date and marry up, and even if in a relationship, a woman will immediately leave the man for a higher guy if she thinks she can land him.

Oh sweet fancy Jesus, dude…explain trophy wives to me, then. Because the last time I looked, that was a clear case of men marrying women who are out of their league, looks-wise. MALE hypergamy, in other words.

And I’m pretty sure the guys who do it will trot out all kinds of “biological” excuses there, too.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ chiomara

did you do the accent? YOU GOTTA HAVE DONE THE ACCENT.

Of course; you have to! I actually do it anyway. I like Gru and my mate’s kid wasn’t the first to notice the resemblance. A friend bought me the scarf. And when the second film revealed Gru’s girlfriend does Krav Maga she just went “Fucking hell, it is you”.

(My friend loves the Minions so when we’re in the pub I do Gru and she just mutters “Bottom” and titters)

Oh, and adding to the hair admiration. You’d make a brilliant Boudicca.

Chiomara
Chiomara
7 years ago

Dio describes her as “possessed of greater intelligence than often belongs to women.” He also describes her as tall, with tawny hair hanging down to below her waist, a harsh voice and a piercing glare.

Tacitus records that she addressed her army with these words, ” It is not as a woman descended from noble ancestry, but as one of the people that I am avenging lost freedom, my scourged body, the outraged chastity of my daughters,” and concluded ” This is a woman’s resolve; as for men, they may live and be slaves.”[25]

Gee! Sounds like me, alright. *throws hair back in smug confidence*

Hihihi, bottom.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Chiomara, you and your hair are beautiful. I see where your gorgeous niece gets her stunning looks from.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ chiomara

There’s a thing in British archeology called the “Boudiccan Destruction Layer”. Now that’s a legacy.

(It’s very useful because you know anything above it is post AD60 and anything below predates that.)

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@Chiomara

Thank you for saying nice things about my hair ^^
I was self conscious of it for so long, only recently began accepting it.

Your hair is amazing; I am deeply envious of it.

Chiomara
Chiomara
7 years ago

@PeeVee
AWWWWWWW! *hug* Thank you!

@Alan
Yissss, that’s amazing.

@Dali
Thank you ^^
But that’s unwarranted, and I don’t want you to feel like that, however your hair is. At worst, if your hair is curly, you probably are misguided on what to do with it because people act like curly hair DOESN’T EXIST. A few years ago my hair looked like… You know Hermione’s hair in the few first Harry Potter movies? Even the color was the same, it had that dry grass aspect. Because I was in denial and treating it like it was straight. It’s just a question of learning what to do with it and I would love you to give you tips if that’s the case! Every type of hair is beautiful, even “witch hair” like mine, hihi.

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@Chiomara

No, my hair is straight and fine and immune to styling. :p
http://i.imgur.com/MpA6EPF.jpg

Muddy Creaky
Muddy Creaky
7 years ago

@ Chiomara @ Alan She is pretty much a local hero here in Colchester; razing the Roman town to the ground was an impressive feat.

(Hi all. Long time lurker.)

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ dalillama

Every now and then the Grauniad does a thing where they have a word or phrase and they invite photos on that theme. You should send that in next time they do “pondering”.

Anarchonist
7 years ago

@Chiomara

At worst, if your hair is curly, you probably are misguided on what to do with it because people act like curly hair DOESN’T EXIST.

I have long, naturally curly hair that gets really dry really quickly and when wearing it in a ponytail to keep it out of my face, it gets really static and gravity-defying. Annoying as all hell.

I’m always curious as to what the heck I might be able to do to my hair. If anyone with experience with maintaining curly hair has any advice I’d love to hear it! The only advice I ever hear is using moisturizing shampoo (no shit).

Croquembouche of patriarchy
Croquembouche of patriarchy
7 years ago

@ Dalilama, your hair colours are gorgeous though, and probably work better on fine and straight hair. I’m seriously considering emulating you, though I’m usually too lazy a woman to bother with hair dye.