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It came from the comments: Artificial wombs will turn straight men gay because women suck

Makin’ babies

Another day, another drive-by misogynist commenter who ends up being even more terrible than the terrible people I wrote about in the post he’s commenting on.

Yes, it’s time for another episode of The Comments I Don’t Let Through. This time, it’s a guy calling himself DownWithWomen, commenting on my post about the lonely incel who wants a nice woman to pay attention to him — while at the same time he openly advertises his belief that women “deserve the rope.” That is, a good hanging.

DownWithWomen, by contrast, thinks that men won’t have to kill women, because women will kill themselves once the men of the world discover how awful they really are. The catalyst? Artificial wombs.

When artificial wombs are invented men won’t even have to do it, women will rope themselves as their sexual market value plus power that comes alongside it is completely destroyed.

Yet another creepy dude obsessed with (cis) women’s fertility.

But then the argument takes a somewhat unexpected turn:

[W]hen [women] start to diminish men will most likely find it viable to cross the x-y line in order to flock to cute-boys to settle down with, and marry whom don’t have the hypergamous instinct of biological females.

Incels and MGTOWs often joke about turning themselves gay in order to avoid the dreaded girl germs, but this guy is serious — if a little confused as to how sexual orientation actually works.

As soon as [artificial wombs] are invented we don’t have to put up with the bullshit of women anymore, cute-boys are more feminine than western females and always eager to please/available for sex to a partner.

Hate to tell you this dude, but I’m pretty sure the twinks of the world aren’t going to want to have sex with you either.

They are more of a woman than any western whore and at the same time if you pursue them now there is no trouble, and also no ridiculous laws on what rape is(Which is everything nowadays) protecting them.

Wait, your argument is that straight guys will turn to twinks because, hey, you can just rape them with impunity? 

Rape laws protect men too, you piece of shit.

The commenter then trots out the sad old argument that women only want macho “bad boys.”

Even if one marries a nice-guy he will only get used for his money, while she will continue to sleep around with the alpha male bad boys. The beta male nice guy will be forced to pour his resources into raising his child, which should be the responsibility of the other man and not him.

Never mind that this is not actually how the world works, and that the guys making this argument have zero proof that women routinely cheat on “betas” with “alphas” and use their allegedly superior sperm to make babies that the betas think are their own.

Women are biologically hypergamous, will always date and marry up, and even if in a relationship, a woman will immediately leave the man for a higher guy if she thinks she can land him.

And men sometimes leave women when they think they could “do better.” There’s no evidence that women are less loyal partners than men.

Women also sexually desire men who have a violent criminal record(Especially murder/assault/robbery/drugs/gangs being the top most “hot”) and wear tattoos/piercings on them. The jerks and badboys half of which being criminals, sometimes fresh out of prison/jail or bullies in school are straightforward about their sexual intentions; and masculine enough to press for it.

Well, first off, this is a giant pile of bullshit. And second, DUDE YOU JUST BASICALLY ANNOUNCED THAT YOU THINK IT WOULD BE OK FOR YOU TO RAPE GAY MEN.

You’re one of the “bad boys” you’re lambasting women for dating. Except even creepier.

But hey, thanks for sharing, I guess.

UPDATE: DownWithWomen has sent along an update of sorts:

We are talking about fem-boys you idiot. To sum things up here is a post from the 8chan /cuteboys/ section: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0R9eccUgEoH

As far as I can tell the board is devoted to young, femme gay men and crossdressers.

Fact is they are more of women than you, some claim to be straight but can be seduced still. They don’t complain often, and if they do try to cause an issue out of nowhere the gynocentric court won’t take them seriously.

So, doubling down on the rapey shit.

Women are not logical by biology, and 30% of babies born are not the husband’s baby but of alpha males.

This is not of course true. The 30% number gets bandied about because there was some study somewhere that found 30% of the time when the husband was concerned enough to demand a paternity test it turned out to not be his child.

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Cat Mara
7 years ago

Re: the “overweight as moral failing” idea, this article I read recently I thought was very interesting: https://medium.com/athena-talks/on-trusting-your-fat-friend-c1eae6750c1#.yhe55o2ig

(Disclosure: I’m overweight, been that way most of my life. It’s definitely had an impact on my self-image)

Chiomara
Chiomara
7 years ago

@Alan

Aaaah. I see ^^ That’s cool.
He is actually German (I am marrying him for the EU greencard, you seriously think I’d marry a Brazilian, gee! Should know me better by now) and doesn’t teach anymore, now he works as a private security. If you ever are in Germany or Brazil, though, give me a heads up! I know I will be in London soon enough, in a year or two (my gringo beta bux knows it’s my dream, as as it’s affordable for him as a German, he intends to make it come true soon), and maybe we can have a tea or whatever you brits do for fun :p

Warning for literal people: this comment contains a lot of joking, as does my last one)

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
7 years ago

@Schnookums

And nothing ever gets old enough that they’ll let it die already. Though in this case, well there ain’t a single Pinocchio over 40 yet, so I guess it is pretty new, considering.

@Chio

I only got one superpower but it’s the coolest ever : cats absolutely love me, for some reason. Like, at first sight, even if they don’t know me. That goes for domesticated cats but also strays and even the wild ones.

Y’know cats in the streets ? The ones sitting on fences watching you from afar that rush back inside soon as you get close. I can sit down and extend a hand and just look them in the eye for a few seconds and they come straight to me and headbutt my hand while purring.

Guess I smell nice or something.

Other than that, just a bunch of physical and mental birth defects. My bone structure’s an absolute mess and the only way I can look even remotely human is by wearing ample clothes, and the insomnia’s had time to wreck every last part of my brain since I was born – the result is more mental illness, of course.

So much for all the selection of embryos that occured during the IVF process.

Still, ’tis all worth it if I smell nice to cats.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ chiomara

I am marrying him for the EU greencard

Heh, I’ve had a few interesting post Brexit conversations with some (non UK) old flames, so I wholeheartedly approve. (I thought my Irish eyes were my best feature, but it turns out to be my dual nationally) 🙂

I’d love to meet you one day. I really enjoy your posts. They’re so stream of consciousness but very easy to follow. I love the way you think.

Be interested to meet your chap too. Krav is my main (non donkey related) passion and I know a lot of people in CP work so we could have a good goss.

Chiomara
Chiomara
7 years ago

@John

Of course cats love you. Don’t you know, they are the spawn of Satan too, especially the black ones. Mental illness is also a sign of Satan. See how mental illness was treated through history. See? Definitely the spawn of Satan. (obs:those jokes are not hurtful, are they? I am sorry if they are, it’s not the intention).

About the cats, though, it happens to me, (though I never interacted with any wild cats, except some baby tigers when I was seven, who I assumed enjoyed my petting, but again, I was seven. It was a magical experience) to a lesser extent. Yesterday, for example, there was a street cat where I worked we have tables at the sidewalk and she came straight to me and stopped by my side to ask for food. Then she went to my friend, who was a client there.

My theory is they can sense that you love them, you know. Perhaps in our tone of voice, or the kindness in your eyes when we look at them. I mean, identifying humans who like you then charming them is probably THE MOST important ability for a domestic cat, so it’s not a stretch to think they can do it. About wild cats, maybe you just know how to act around cats, like, their non verbal communication, and the wild ones can feel this too? I don’t know, it’s a theory. Maybe you have a cat at home and smell like cats, too. Go figure.

zaunfink
zaunfink
7 years ago

@Pie

Im just suggesting your name makes me hungry, everything else is your imagination 😉

@sinkable John

That does sound like the origin story of a superhero. All you need is a bit of radiation or perhaps a cat bite? You could be catperson!

On the topic of porn and expectations:
Somehow that didn’t happen for me. I was always very aware that porn was fake and in fact consumed documentaries about that and loads of other information about Sex and there was no “oh, this isn’t like porn” at all, when I finally got around to the real thing. But then again, I’ve always been into the rougher things and they often include interviews, so the fact that it’s just for show is kinda in your face.

And as for the crime of being fat and not bothered by that – oh yes. I’ve had someone bring up my fatness as an insult recently and he was so very thrown by the fact that I just didn’t feel insulted. Yes, I’m fat. You’re not telling me anything new and lo and behold, my worth is not determined by whether or not you’d like to fuck me!
I would like to change my fatness, because I want to be able to do all kinds of workout related things that require me to be able to lift my own weight and I can’t (with my arms, that is), but that’s the only reason.

And somehow, weirdly enough, the fact that I am me is more relevant when it comes to love than my weight. Who would have thought.

Chiomara
Chiomara
7 years ago

@Alan

Heh. Sorry about that. I swear I can write very “goodly (:p)”, it just takes some time, an actual keyboard, and me being more mindful than I am here. I’m glad you like it, I’m even crazier in real life. I like you too.

And my beta bux, he’ll love you, he loves talking about fighting, Jesus, if you get him started he won’t stop. He studied Krav Maga in Israel, also, which apparently an important thing to mention, so you will have a lot to talk about.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
7 years ago

@Chio

It’s not hurtful to me, but I can’t speak for anybody else and I honestly don’t know what the consensus would be in this specific case. But as far as I’m concerned and especially if you’re mocking religion, fire away !

Besides I’ve always rooted for Lucifer ever since they introduced him to the series, which might be another reason why the fandom hates me.

Re : cats I think it’s the smell, and possibly they’re pretty good at sensing intent. I do smell like cat most of the time because I’m owned by one, but I’m pretty sure my natural scent also has something to do with it, seeing as it’s happened to me even after I’d been away from home a long time and had showered a lot in between.

@zaunfink

Weeell… Kat did suggest I be called the Cat Whisperer, in the event of an apocalypse. That’d be my main skill and purpose in Mammoth Camp, seeing as I can’t do anything else and someone needs to keep the big mean ones away from camp.

Also I’m a pretty decent bartender, I guess. That can be, like, my secret identity.

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
7 years ago

@ Sinkable John

Heh. My sister calls me the Cat Whisperer for my talent at turning feral cats into snuggle-bunnies.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ chiomara

Oh you write very goodly as it is. You’re very witty and bright and it’s great you just run with that. I especially like your mastery of the quintuple negative. I once had to scribble some plus and minus signs to work out whether you were agreeing or disagreeing with a point; but that’s all part of the fun. Don’t ever change.

He studied Krav Maga in Israel, also, which apparently an important thing to mention

Indeed it is. I’ve got an invite to the Wingate Centre. That’s like the Krav equivalent of the Shaolin Temple. They sent me a vid of the course though and I just went “Ouch, that looks painful”. I will get round to it one day though. And gawd I too love jabbering on about fighting as you may have noticed. So definitely want to meet your beau now.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
7 years ago

@Alan

Krav is my main (non donkey related) passion

Eh, phrasing ?

@Chio

I’m even crazier in real life

Eh, comments policy

@zaunfink

On the topic of porn and expectations:
Somehow that didn’t happen for me

Me either. Most of my bad expectations came from non pornographic TV and movies. Ya know how long it took for me to realize not everyone does it missionary, under 3 layers of covers, and in a slightly moonlit room? I’ve learned pretty much everything I know about how sex actually works from porn. And my girlfriend seems to think I have the general gist of it, so…

PaganReader - Misandrist Spinster

I only got one superpower but it’s the coolest ever : cats absolutely love me, for some reason. Like, at first sight, even if they don’t know me. That goes for domesticated cats but also strays and even the wild ones.

Y’know cats in the streets ? The ones sitting on fences watching you from afar that rush back inside soon as you get close. I can sit down and extend a hand and just look them in the eye for a few seconds and they come straight to me and headbutt my hand while purring.

I am so jealous of you right now, I’m not kidding. It makes my week when I can get a cat to come over for some lovings. My neighbor cat knows and loves me…when he sees me with my bike. Any other time? Scary stranger, run away!

Chiomara
Chiomara
7 years ago

@Axe
Sorry, you’re right, I thought that as I was referring to myself it would be fine.

Look at the kitty, by the way, everyone! I will probably take her home next week and be her godmother until she finds a family.

http://i.imgur.com/vSvBzEO.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2CNOElqb.jpg

@Alan

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD, I AM SORRY. It’s supposed to avoid repetition. Oh gosh, hahaha

Kat
Kat
7 years ago

@Sinkable John
Brush up on your (native) French, and you can teach us
French.

Looking forward to it! (But not the apocalypse.)

Sorry to hear about those door-to-door peddlers of hate. I don’t know if you believe in souls, but from my point of view you’ve certainly got one.

The people who don’t seem to have souls are in the Trump administration. They’ve got souls too but decided that the soul is irrelevant when you’ve got a chance to hit the Big Time. Of course, the Big Time has Hit the Skids but whatevs.

Kat
Kat
7 years ago

@Chiomara
That kitty is so adorable. I think you’ll have fun with her.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

D’aww kitteh.

I love it when animals look at the camera. Sas was rubbish at that.

“What? There’s something behind me? I’ll take a look”

I was very impressed with a friend’s ability to take brilliant photos of her dogs. Then I found out she just put cheese on her head.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
7 years ago

My cat will always stare directly at your face, unless you’re taking a picture. Boggles me.

He’s a super nice cat though, and always wants anyone around to sit or lie down so he can climb on them and show some proper affection (and if someone’s got an allergy, you can be sure he’ll rush them and ignore everyone else, ’cause he’s a bastard and apparently knows that somehow, probably senses they’re uneasy). That, or food, or open the door plz. He always expects something from you at any given time, I guess that’s why he always stares at your face. But if you so much as make a gesture toward a phone or camera, he’ll turn around.

@Kat

I dunno about souls but I know about human decency, and they lack any sort of it. I guess the irony is that you’d think they’d be aware that their God knows that. But they also lack the self-awareness for that.

Waaaait… self-awareness…

HOLY SHIT THEY’RE THE ONES WITHOUT THE CLOSEST THING TO A LITERAL SOUL THAT WE KNOW OF !

Chiomara
Chiomara
7 years ago

@Alan

My technique with both pets and babies consists of making them calm and still then making really weird loud noises with my mouth. So the expressions you see in my pictures usually mean “What? What the heck?! Are you OK?!”, but sometimes I get lucky and get a “Hahahahaha my aunt sounds like a parrot in pain!!!!!”

Case in point:

“What?! What the heck?! Are you OK?!”

http://i.imgur.com/gMsnzhy.jpg

“Hahahahaha, my aunt sounds like a parrot in pain! ”

http://i.imgur.com/wCdG4rL.jpg

(yes, this was an excuse to post pictures of my niece who, as she likes to point out when you ask” How old will you be soon?! “, will be one in a week!)

EJ (Marxist Jazz Weasel)

Ohmygosh your niece is gorgeous.

ScarlettAthenta
ScarlettAthenta
7 years ago

Anybody want to look at something interesting and not contemplate the manurosphere, I just discovered this website “30+ Honest Illustrations That Show What Women do when No One is Judging Them”

http://upshout.net/women-life-honest-illustrations-sally-nixon/?utm_content=inf_10_3298_2&utm_source=TSE&utm_medium=CPC&utm_campaign=tse&tse_id=INF_0d50ef30116011e7af245d7f4020bc76

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Chiomara, your niece is absolutely beautiful!

Chiomara
Chiomara
7 years ago

@EJ

Yep. Thank you. And so very smart and charismatic. She has been my main source of happiness every since she was born. I love her endlessly. She will smash the patriarchy so hard :,)
I became her godmother for realsies (in the church and everything) just yesterday, btw!

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
7 years ago

This is a good niece, but as someone who has a niece, I have to say that my niece is best niece.

She will smash the patriarchy so hard :,)

This.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ chiomara

Aww, so cute!

I have no doubt you’re an amazing auntie. I can see you leading the revolution together in a few years time. In matching berets.

ETA: I’ll try out your parrot thing. If you read about me getting me getting mauled to death by a suddenly startled animal then you’ll know I didn’t do it right.

JoeB
JoeB
7 years ago

Caught most of Juice Bro’s appearance on 60 minutes. Agreed to an interview and got all dressed up to say “No YOU’RE Fake News.”

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