Another day, another drive-by misogynist commenter who ends up being even more terrible than the terrible people I wrote about in the post he’s commenting on.
Yes, it’s time for another episode of The Comments I Don’t Let Through. This time, it’s a guy calling himself DownWithWomen, commenting on my post about the lonely incel who wants a nice woman to pay attention to him — while at the same time he openly advertises his belief that women “deserve the rope.” That is, a good hanging.
DownWithWomen, by contrast, thinks that men won’t have to kill women, because women will kill themselves once the men of the world discover how awful they really are. The catalyst? Artificial wombs.
When artificial wombs are invented men won’t even have to do it, women will rope themselves as their sexual market value plus power that comes alongside it is completely destroyed.
Yet another creepy dude obsessed with (cis) women’s fertility.
But then the argument takes a somewhat unexpected turn:
[W]hen [women] start to diminish men will most likely find it viable to cross the x-y line in order to flock to cute-boys to settle down with, and marry whom don’t have the hypergamous instinct of biological females.
Incels and MGTOWs often joke about turning themselves gay in order to avoid the dreaded girl germs, but this guy is serious — if a little confused as to how sexual orientation actually works.
As soon as [artificial wombs] are invented we don’t have to put up with the bullshit of women anymore, cute-boys are more feminine than western females and always eager to please/available for sex to a partner.
Hate to tell you this dude, but I’m pretty sure the twinks of the world aren’t going to want to have sex with you either.
They are more of a woman than any western whore and at the same time if you pursue them now there is no trouble, and also no ridiculous laws on what rape is(Which is everything nowadays) protecting them.
Wait, your argument is that straight guys will turn to twinks because, hey, you can just rape them with impunity?
Rape laws protect men too, you piece of shit.
The commenter then trots out the sad old argument that women only want macho “bad boys.”
Even if one marries a nice-guy he will only get used for his money, while she will continue to sleep around with the alpha male bad boys. The beta male nice guy will be forced to pour his resources into raising his child, which should be the responsibility of the other man and not him.
Never mind that this is not actually how the world works, and that the guys making this argument have zero proof that women routinely cheat on “betas” with “alphas” and use their allegedly superior sperm to make babies that the betas think are their own.
Women are biologically hypergamous, will always date and marry up, and even if in a relationship, a woman will immediately leave the man for a higher guy if she thinks she can land him.
And men sometimes leave women when they think they could “do better.” There’s no evidence that women are less loyal partners than men.
Women also sexually desire men who have a violent criminal record(Especially murder/assault/robbery/drugs/gangs being the top most “hot”) and wear tattoos/piercings on them. The jerks and badboys half of which being criminals, sometimes fresh out of prison/jail or bullies in school are straightforward about their sexual intentions; and masculine enough to press for it.
Well, first off, this is a giant pile of bullshit. And second, DUDE YOU JUST BASICALLY ANNOUNCED THAT YOU THINK IT WOULD BE OK FOR YOU TO RAPE GAY MEN.
You’re one of the “bad boys” you’re lambasting women for dating. Except even creepier.
But hey, thanks for sharing, I guess.
UPDATE: DownWithWomen has sent along an update of sorts:
We are talking about fem-boys you idiot. To sum things up here is a post from the 8chan /cuteboys/ section: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0R9eccUgEoH
As far as I can tell the board is devoted to young, femme gay men and crossdressers.
Fact is they are more of women than you, some claim to be straight but can be seduced still. They don’t complain often, and if they do try to cause an issue out of nowhere the gynocentric court won’t take them seriously.
So, doubling down on the rapey shit.
Women are not logical by biology, and 30% of babies born are not the husband’s baby but of alpha males.
This is not of course true. The 30% number gets bandied about because there was some study somewhere that found 30% of the time when the husband was concerned enough to demand a paternity test it turned out to not be his child.
Should I even bother explaining to you that hypergamy (which is marrying up in socioeconomic status. It does not mean fucking “alpha” males) is more common in a highly patriarchal culture because when women can’t support themselves, their fathers need to marry them to the richest man they can?
Really though I just wondered in what culture do you think women were distributed equally among men? A citation would be preferable, but I’ll accept a country and era instead. I can’t think of a single time that being male guaranteed you a pretty and fertile young wife but I’m no historian. Please enlighten me!
I know an older woman whose father was Serbian mafia (in Ohio during the middle of the last century). He was high up enough in the hierarchy to be followed around by the FBI, but her mother had to sometimes work as a maid to bring in extra money. The woman told me that money was never steady or predictable, and she has hoarding issues that stem back to her economically uncertain childhood.
‘Stephen Twindale’: Oh, the fat women aren’t women ‘argument’?I am pretty sure you have never been praised for your faultless logic.
@Resistance
Sure, but why do we need everything (read: feeemales) to be evenly distributed to us? Just gonna leave that axiom dangling, are we?
High school does eventually end, ya know?
These… are not separate things…
What’s that, Gaea? You hear racism? Good girl *pets coat*
@Stephen
As I mentioned above, I don’t think DownWithWomen has ever actually had sex with another human.
Not that I disparage those, who by choice or not, are limited to their own devices–so to speak. I am an old woman and I have limited myself to myself for quite a few years (I know, I know, TMI). At my age relationships can be more trouble than they are worth. I still get hit on, in a mild sort of way, occasionally, but I enjoy my autonomy so any sex I had would be of the one night stand variety and, honestly, that sort of thing is boring when you’ve had a long sex life. Wild monkey sex is fine if you’re up to it, but I did that while I was young and could enjoy it without a backache later.
And looking at his updates, I think he is probably very young.
I am not anti-porn, not at all, but it does create an image of sex that is completely unrealistic. The false image is countered by real life sex for most people, but for the very young and those that, for what ever reason, haven’t had sex partners, it creates false expectations. Those false expectations are grist for the mill of those making money exploiting the poor idiots, and in the mean time making it pretty sure that they never will get laid because thinking women are all evil does not make finding a sex partner likely. I think most of them end up with a partner and find out that great sex doesn’t require some “pretty coed” and forget all the MGTOW nonsense. Unfortunately some will be stuck in their crippling misanthropy (I say misanthropy because their view of both women AND men is appalling.)
I’d like to make a suggestion to all the youngsters out there who haven’t had sex yet. Look into finding porn designed for women instead of porn designed for men. It is generally MUCH more realistic and you’ll get a much better understanding what a sexual relationship is all about.
@ zaunfink and Alan
Birnam Wood was pretty badass, too.
“Coed” is one of those antiquated words that’s right out of a 1950s Playboy anecdote, or a Cole Porter tune. What about the flappers? Are they all going steady with moonshiners?
@WWTH – Yeah, “hypergamy”, as they use it, seems to be shorthand for “all women are beneath all men”, so that ANY woman who ever dates a guy is dating up, by definition. Their model doesn’t accommodate for highly accomplished and wealthy women.
I don’t even know why it’s something to tsk-tsk over that women avoid bad environments and are drawn to better environments, like everything else in the entire goddamned animal and plant kingdom. This should not be news to people who are superior at biology. But apparently, it’s news to people who are offended that women have choices.
Yeah, I’m with Paradoxical here. This is some horrific rapey shit you’re peddling. May your cloaca seal itself shut on five alarm taco night.
@ buttercup
You think those hypergamous witches were hitting on bad boy Macbeth?
(Must confess, with Bart Simpson on this one “How can a play where everybody gets murdered be so boring?”)
@zaunfink
Something something filling joke.
…what are you suggesting?
All the hardcore outlaws would be up in the grassy sheepy highlands, I’d have thought. So the coeds would be left with the ones that clearly weren’t the most alpharest. Alphine? Alphabest?
Probably totally OT but I feel like sharing the 8th or so page of the latest U.S.Avengers 🙂 :
No kidding.
“Ha, ha! You’ve only had sex with FAT women! BURN!”
Yeah, such a BURN that David would be happy fucking someone who was happy to fuck him, regardless of their weight.
I was actually thinking today about how being fat is somehow morally objectionable. I mean, there’s been a lot of talk about the subject from people who are a lot more intelligent and well-spoken than I am, but there’s still a whole lot I could say based on personal experience.
I mean, I’m fat, but I find that most people don’t just object to me being fat, they object even more to me being okay with that fact.
They’re just as, if not more, outraged that I’m perfectly happy at my size. Sure, I backstep now and again and get back into that self-loathing, but at the end of the day, I’m exercising, I’m eating healthy, I’m working to put myself in a less stressful environment, and despite chronic pain (that actually stems from a high-school leg injury that didn’t heal properly and NOT MY FAT like a lot of people like to assume), I’m pretty happy as I am.
And that’s what gets their goats. They don’t care if I’m fat, they’re mad I’m okay with it and still think I’m a human despite that and therefore their shaming tactics and diet bullshit aren’t going to work.
They’re mad they can’t force me to hate myself again.
I wonder why DownWithWomen can’t just skip having kids and start dating “fem-boys” right now. Unless gay sex happens to be illegal where he lives, there’s nothing stopping him.
DownWithWomen, when you force your dick into someone who doesn’t want it there, that’s rape. It doesn’t matter whether you’re forcing your dick into a man, a woman, or an enby, it’s still rape. I hope you have to go the bathroom in the woods and get smacked by a porcupine.
@Pie
That’s a popular place for such folk, but it wasn’t the case in Britain, because up in the Highlands there was King and Law. Down in the borderlands, the English and Scottish crowns both laid claim. The Larristons and Elliots and the other reiver clans would ride north and south, commiting all manner of violent crimes, before heading home with the loot, and in those lands the only law was what you could personally enforce with sword, pike, or musket. Those were definitely the hardest of hard men in that time and place.
@MrsObedMarsh
Probably because they don’t want anything to do with him either.
Imma just say it’s okay to be a virgin or not have sex very often. The amount of sex you have doesn’t determine your worth.
This chuckle fuck DownWithWomen is a terrible human being regardless if they’re getting any. And I hope they get a good face full of mace from anyone, woman, man or whoever, they get near.
I also hope their words are hollow because it would be horrifying if they’re talking about this shit through experience.
I show up all eager to greet our new trolls and…that’s all they’ve brought? I got out of bed for that? Sheesh, the worst crime of all for trolling too: being boring.
*de-lurks…don’t worry about welcome packages, I lurk on here all the time but this one kind of feels like it’s aimed at me*
OK, speaking for the cross-dressing femboys (or at least that’s how they’d perceive me), NOT IN A MILLION FUCKING YEARS.
(at least out of the transfeminine folk I know, there is a much higher than average likelihood of us being feminist, left-wing, etc…they’d certainly find that this queer, polyamorous, Marxist, feminist would ‘complain often’ if one of these alt-right wastes of space tried to ‘settle down’ anywhere within a continent’s distance of me)
I guess he assumes there must be some kind of forced monogamy going on too? Either that or he hasn’t read up on these guys:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_boys_(Mormon_fundamentalism)
As for sex with fat women:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6zHHn7JMKg
Apologies in advance for the OT rant.
Fucking Christian came to my door again to pontificate about Satan’s latest plot. Walking, talking abominations passing as humans, except they don’t have souls and they aren’t God’s children.
I knew where this was going the moment he said “abomination”, really. IVF-born folks. That would be me. And it ain’t even the first time it’s happened, actually there seems to be a lot more of those assholes at my door these days.
@Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Condolences, those zealotrous assholes are severely deficient in empathy, alongside living up to the expectations of their demi god. You don’t deserve that shit.
The majority of the population and therefore society is female so… Don’t you think they would be widely considered attractive if that’s what we thought? Or that at least the films/series/whatever targeted at women (and/or made by them) and what they supposedly like would have this kind of character portrayed as sexy and desirable? Did anyone here ever see a movie with a high end drug dealer that gets all the chicks that wasn’t a hypermasculine action movie? Me neither.
In strongly patriarchal societies women are not allowed to work or do anything that provides them with their own money or status. The highest a woman can achieve is not being a “x”, it’s being the “wife of a x”, so obviously they will seek a man with the highest status possible. Patriarchy leads to “hypergamy”, not the opposite, people only started marrying for love and not resources very recently in the story line. But you don’t even have to know history to know that, you just have to think for like, 10 seconds.
Just to be sure, by betas you mean unfit men who don’t even have economical/societal power so they can’t even buy guns or, I don’t know, control an army? Wow, I am sure that the men who, according to your ideology, own all the power, resources and women of the world, and who are also cruel, hardened criminals, are terrified.
What are you? A pitiful troll who doesn’t have even the slightest notion of history or logic? You’re right, no one will ever love you for who you are.
Yeah? Well, I suppose you are right, my fiance has served in the military and is a Krav Maga instructor. But he also studied philosophy and art history! And is poor as heck! And treats me extremely well! It’s almost like people don’t fit your little boxes and are capable of falling in love and having relationships without material interest.
@Oogly
Thank you.
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/19/19c937ffd4a65c27832576a0e17e5d89c568c488e2bf018267465dd5a95f3b39.jpg
(By the way, those pics were more than adequate, and you are forgiven.)
@Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
That’s STILL a fucking thing? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. Nothing new under the sun…
@ chiomara
Does the name Guilherme ring any bells?
@John
Cool! Does being the spawn of Satan give you any superpower? Making things burn? Can you frighten children with your stare? Or at least some telekinesis? Come on, there’s gotta be something. Did you at least give him the “spawn of Satan” stare and say hebraic-sounding things? Or act frightened by any crosses he might have brought? Come oooon.
Pictured: The spawn of Satan stare.
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Seamus+Davey+Fitzpatrick+Fuse+Fangoria+Chainsaw+g_Q9kfYK70Rl.jpg
@Alan
Erm, several, too many, even, it’s a very common name here. Why, can you be more specific?
@ chiomara
It’s when you mentioned the Krav thing. I do a bit of teaching and I know a few of the Brazilian guys. G trained under my old instructor so wondered if it was him.