Men’s Rights Activists, and anti-feminists generally, are forever warning anyone who will listen that excessive feminism could, any day now, bring about the end of western civilization itself.
This is not a terribly new or original idea. And a post on Nazified pickup artist blog Chateau Heartiste today reminds us just how old and unoriginal this notion is.
The proprietor of that blog, James “Heartiste” Weidmann, brings his readers’ attention to a lengthy quotation from a 1911 book by a fellow named Octavius Beale.
[U]nreasonable demands for exaggerated “rights ” of women will always find a limit in the fact that the majority of men will constantly prefer for wives those who do not claim such rights, but who rather seek their happiness in cultivating and developing their specially feminine virtues and attributes, apart from any aim at equality with men.
Take that, feminist cat ladies with no husbands!
These attributes will also therefore be preferably inherited, whilst the extreme tendencies of the women’s rights movement will usually not come into heredity, but will constantly tend to die out.
Well, he was half right. Feminism did die out, for a time, but then it came back.
Notwithstanding, should woman-rule —contrary to all expectations— become so strong in any single State that it will be able to enforce all its demands, even the most extreme, that result could only be possible where the men are completely degenerated.
Degenerated, huh? Can you see where this is going?
Such a nation would soon be supplanted and dissolved by healthier peoples, who might, perhaps, stand on a lower scale of culture.
I believe he is referring to what the Nazis of today like to call “white genocide.” Back in 1911, Beale called it “Racial Decay” — which was in fact the title of his book.
Amazing how quickly and easily Beale slid from antifeminism to white supremacy. Just as so many antifeminists do today.
Heartiste follows up Beale’s dire, racist warning with a dire, racist warning of his own.
After declaring “equalism” to be “a corruption of civilized man’s soul,” he tries his best to rally the troops in defense of their white “tribe.”
[F]emcuntery will only achieve wrecking power in a nation of degenerated men unable and unwilling to act to preserve their culture and protect their tribe. Women are followers and will follow their nation right into the abyss if it guarantees their social standing among peers; as I’ve been saying, it’ll take shitlord men with big balls to bring their women to heel and their nation back to greatness.
Heartiste, seriously, no one wants to hear about your balls.
@Blegh
So huh… what are ya doing here exactly ? What do you think you’re doing ?
Amazing us with your masterful debatorz skill ?
’cause if so, nope.
I mean, you tell me. You’re the dude coming to a feminist blog spewing the most typical (and boring) PRATT bullshit, entirely ignoring the rebuttals, and making weird accusations. You tell me what this is then.
I apologize I did seem to have missed that white paper I went back and I saw it now.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/seagulls-are-delicious-says-osborne-2012092041759
Holy shit I’d promised meself not to stay up late to chew on trolls again. Gotta sleep some time.
Actually, I neither made claims nor called you a chewtoy, I’ve mostly just been lurking. But anyone who can dismiss 50% of the population of the world as inherently lazy really isn’t worth arguing with – hence why me and mostly everyone else are just making fun of you. 😉
How have I ignored teh rebuttals I have replied to each and every single person. What?
I am not making accusations I am literally going off of what you guys told me. Lindsay told me that women work less hours cause they are taking care of children at home, I used that point to call them lazy and not to expect companies to pay her for not working(no matter how good the reason for not working is), some dude here literally called me a chew toy, another guy said that I am not qualified on talking about something just cause Im male.
Not to mention the weird accusations about laissez faire capitalism and Ayn rand ideas. I dont know where they came from?
The only person I havent replied to properly is Policy. I am reading through his white paper.
I am here cause I wanted to hear the other side. I like learning about things and debate, Ive been reading this website for a few days and it was a lot more impartial and logical than sites like jezebel and buzzfeed.
You already admitted to being a sock, dude. You can’t walk that back.
Is this MRAL? I was so sad because he seemed like he was soooo close to a breakthrough at one point, and then, flounce.
We are not here to debate you. We are not here to entertain you. We are not here to educate you. And being as you have called an entire gender lazy and told us that we don’t have to take care of the helpless and deserve to be economically penalized if we do, we don’t have to be polite to you. And you don’t deserve us being polite to you.
It’s the 329-year-old engineer who thinks a person can live on seagull alone. I know some thought he was MRAL but I am personally skeptical on that point.
@Lindsay
Well I thought I was going to have a reasonable debate here. Proven wrong again.
It’s the 329-year-old engineer who thinks a person can live on seagull alone.
No no, I like eating mammoth hunters.
“Is this MRAL? I was so sad because he seemed like he was soooo close to a breakthrough at one point, and then, flounce.”
Damn it isidore. You got me, yes I am MRAL. Howd you know?
Ugh this guy’s formatting is terrible. Is it that hard to put the title of whoever he replies to? Or putting his words in less textboxes? He has 5 minutes each to edit them.
@Bradley Shore
Women are slothful
With their excuses of kids.
This isn’t sexist /s
@Axecaliber–That’s one of my favorite songs, actually!
And he’s still all “I wanna have a debate!!!!” Bite me, you clownshoe.
It’s because formatting and making things easily readable is a basic level of respect owed to anyone engaged in a text medium. Not-Brad is expressing his disrespect in a non-verbal, shall we say passive-aggressive manner.
Lindsey I apologize for calling you lazy but you are. You can give the reason as childcare but raising a child is nowhere near as hard as working for a living.
Are you saying that companies should give you free money? How about actually earning it? Money doesnt grow on trees. You need to give something to the company to get something from a company. Or you can go on welfare and take care of the child, the government will give you money, and I am fine with that cause your taxes go towards it so you wont be negatively affecting anyone else.
The more you work the more money you get the less you work the less money you get its simple.
“Ugh this guy’s formatting is terrible. Is it that hard to put the title of whoever he replies to? Or putting his words in less textboxes? He has 5 minutes each to edit them.”
I am way too lazy to.
OMG “raising a child is nowhere near as hard as working for a living” lol okay then
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md9aoasQJP1rdutw3o1_400.gif
“Actually, I neither made claims nor called you a chewtoy, I’ve mostly just been lurking. But anyone who can dismiss 50% of the population of the world as inherently lazy really isn’t worth arguing with – hence why me and mostly everyone else are just making fun of you”
Im not saying just women are lazy, most people are lazy and greedy and stupid. Thats the reason why the middle class is shrinking. IQ levels are the lowest they have been in the last 70 years and consumerism is at an all time high.
OMG “raising a child is nowhere near as hard as working for a living” lol okay then”
You know how many men would love to stay at home and raise their kids and watch breaking bad for the rest of the day instead of working their asses off? I know I would too bad society looks down upon such people and most women dont want to be the breadwinner.
Also I apologize Isidore I thought you were the one that first called me a chewtoy along with Axe. Also nice name axe, did you get that from your world of warcraft account?
lol no
The Flynn Effect
You said a dumb thing, and now you are trying to backpedal by saying more dumb things.
I go away for an hour to watch Big Little Lies and Bedsore is still wanking on and on and on and on and on…
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/2248587/seagulls-flying-o.gif