Men’s Rights Activists, and anti-feminists generally, are forever warning anyone who will listen that excessive feminism could, any day now, bring about the end of western civilization itself.
This is not a terribly new or original idea. And a post on Nazified pickup artist blog Chateau Heartiste today reminds us just how old and unoriginal this notion is.
The proprietor of that blog, James “Heartiste” Weidmann, brings his readers’ attention to a lengthy quotation from a 1911 book by a fellow named Octavius Beale.
[U]nreasonable demands for exaggerated “rights ” of women will always find a limit in the fact that the majority of men will constantly prefer for wives those who do not claim such rights, but who rather seek their happiness in cultivating and developing their specially feminine virtues and attributes, apart from any aim at equality with men.
Take that, feminist cat ladies with no husbands!
These attributes will also therefore be preferably inherited, whilst the extreme tendencies of the women’s rights movement will usually not come into heredity, but will constantly tend to die out.
Well, he was half right. Feminism did die out, for a time, but then it came back.
Notwithstanding, should woman-rule —contrary to all expectations— become so strong in any single State that it will be able to enforce all its demands, even the most extreme, that result could only be possible where the men are completely degenerated.
Degenerated, huh? Can you see where this is going?
Such a nation would soon be supplanted and dissolved by healthier peoples, who might, perhaps, stand on a lower scale of culture.
I believe he is referring to what the Nazis of today like to call “white genocide.” Back in 1911, Beale called it “Racial Decay” — which was in fact the title of his book.
Amazing how quickly and easily Beale slid from antifeminism to white supremacy. Just as so many antifeminists do today.
Heartiste follows up Beale’s dire, racist warning with a dire, racist warning of his own.
After declaring “equalism” to be “a corruption of civilized man’s soul,” he tries his best to rally the troops in defense of their white “tribe.”
[F]emcuntery will only achieve wrecking power in a nation of degenerated men unable and unwilling to act to preserve their culture and protect their tribe. Women are followers and will follow their nation right into the abyss if it guarantees their social standing among peers; as I’ve been saying, it’ll take shitlord men with big balls to bring their women to heel and their nation back to greatness.
Heartiste, seriously, no one wants to hear about your balls.
Butt in? Fuck off with that. Chiomara is a valued regular here and a decent person. You’re an asshat and a troll.
Don’t tell her she’s butting in. I think I can speak for everyone here. We’d rather hear from her than you.
Go ride a mechanical bull that is suspended over a pit of Legos.
ooglyboogly
Here is another report by the labour department
http://www.hawaii.edu/religion/courses/Gender_Wage_Gap_Report.pdf
with a forward written by the dept of labor secratary himself.
Which says the opposite.
weir
She should have read my previous comments then. I clearly said I was talking about the western world. Stop behaving like a child.
According to you guys, anyone that disagrees with your opinion “is a troll”.
First of all, it wouldn’t be, second of all, us, because of salesmanship. I was a seller myself (I started working at 16! That’s how lazy I am), as was my mother (for 30 years, remember?) and we both know it goes a long freaking way. I worked at a bag store in a mall by the side of the metro station. This metro station had a bag store. The store in the metro station would sell the same crappy Chinese store that you could find by grabbing the metro to the commercial center of the city, only twice as expensive. We in turn would sell the same bag as the one in the metro station, only 2 or three times more expensive. How? The same way everyone who works with this does. Setting the right atmosphere, good lip service, selling strategies. Its okay not to know that, because you are an engineer and not a salesman nor a marketeer, but how about you don’t try to teach people their own jobs? You’ll sound as stupid as I would sound trying to teach you yours.
Yeah, what I said is not “find workers who are so terrible at their jobs that it messes up with your quality”. I mean, you understood that point, you even talked about quality in your last question, are you willingly trying to pretend you didn’t?! I meat disabled people, old people, single mothers, who do a great job but usually aren’t hired because they have different needs or people are just bigoted. If you hire those, they will be loyal, hard working, demand less, and are less likely to fuck you over.
I am sorry, but how are you even telling me this shit?! I am the one with experience running an actual company here. You just talk out of your ass.
Oh, very relevant.
No. Everyone who is a troll is a troll. Shouldn’t you be going to bed? I thought you were a hard working engineer. It’s about to be Monday.
oogy I thought she lived in the US you dumbass. Again quote me on all the bullshit, I supposedly “said”. Ive said the same thing 3 times now, its getting annoying.
weir
You do realize that developers can work remotely right? If you dont know what that is, you should google it.
Chiomara you do have experience running a company in a third world country, I give you that. Didnt I tell you I was talking about the western world. I know more thank you about this cause I live in the USA I have friends that are in the USA and I have angel invested in a company so I had to research this. As Ive said before, multiple times I also have banking friends who has knowledge about business, cause its their freaking job to give business loans. They need to evaluate the company to see if its eligible for funding.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA YES, I HAD TO BUTT IN! THATS WHAT WE DO, EXIST AND HAVE A VOICE WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT! BOOOOO! I is scary Latina!
Sorry, my existence as a relevant human being doesn’t fit your narrative?! I am so so sorry!
I will go back to only existing when you tell American feminists that they don’t care about me, okay?! I am sorry for getting on the way of your argument with the other actually relevant people, Mr not privileged at all.
Can you believe this guy?!
If youre going to butt in atleast read what I said so you dont sound stupid.
The sarcasm is not helping.
Oh, now he is going to begin with the “you’re not American, nothing you say is relevant for us.”
Alright, sweety. We are clearly savages when it comes to business. I mean, Victoria’s Secret, Tommy Hilfiger, Chanel, they are all tiny shitty companies, because they sell overpriced stuff. They attempt to win by offering quality and marketing, don’t they know the only way to win is selling cheaper than Chinese shit at alibaba? Tsk Tsk. Idiots. They don’t know business in the first world. They should have asked you before doing that.
Is “working remotely” supposed to be some fancy jargon that silly lady brained people don’t know?
The one thing that keeps me from requesting that Bedsores be banned is this kind of unintentional hilarity.
Especially since he did kind of reveal himself. I though engineering was a brutally demanding job that lazy females can’t do. Now all of a sudden it’s the kind of gig that lets you be so footloose and fancy free that you can spend hours upon hours trolling with no clients or bosses being any the wiser.
Im sure its funny. Many people find things they dont understand to be funny.
fancy free? When have I ever said it was footloose and fancy free. Just because I dont physically go to the workplace doesnt mean I dont work. What are you on? I do have a boss and shit I just meet with him on skype or on teamviewer, or through the ticketing system.
Since youre a lazy female please create a sales order report for me.
@Brad see
Oh yes a study from a conservative think tank that not only alters the pool from full time female workers and full time male workers and then includes part time workers in there to when literally every other study does not do this. Or how it completely ignores occupational segregation in how the labor market operates and makes the assumption that pay only is the deciding factor for gender gaps in the workplace. Or how the study ignores selective hires, training. Or that if you actually care for facts you’d know that this study kind of is disproven by mass, what mass? This mass
I find your google fu lacking. And that’s not even getting into how after you couldn’t use Chiomara as a stepping stone for your platform you ditched the American Dream rhetoric and go straight to racism.
@Chiomara
Seriously what a blowhard. “Oh women from other countries are involved in this discussion?! Why I never!”
-Thinks “working remotely” is fancy jargon
-“It’s difficult! I have a boss and shit! I just meet him at Skype!”
-Thinks creating a sales order report is also something difficult and outlandish
I mean, I don’t know about you guys, but I am tempted to ask what did he study because that sounds like a dream job.
But don’t forget, sitting on your own living room in your jammies making a sales order report while commenting on a blog is more demanding than building roads or taking care of children. Alrighty.
No chiomara, sweety. Let me explain to you, so even you can understand.
The business landscape in america and third world countries is different especially with the size of the company you have. The way funding is achieved(the number of sales, capital, the growth percentage that needs to be hit), the start to launch process etc everything is different
The type of competition is different. The rules and regulations are different.
What are you talking about? What does that have to do with anything. Your company is nowhere near the level of Hilfiger, Ralph lauren, Versace etc. When your company gets to that size the process is almost the same worldwide. Its not the same for small businesses or even midsized businesses. Thats why I am saying you dont know what youre talking about.
This douche does realize when they get old, they may want people to take care of them, right? Maybe those kids they’ll probably never have or something? Will those people that take care of them be “lazy” then still?
Yeah, 80 hours a week of studying and working for four years to fill out reports. They’ve made such good life decisions.
@Chiomara
People already were able to call out Trump on his doublespeak BS, what makes people like him think he’d get away with it, on a forum with text and an id that anyone can check back on.
@Brud
Matey it has “CONSAD research center” on the cover. You fail reading.
Ooglyboogles
What conservative thinktank? Its by the government of labor lmao. Dude did you even read the fucking thing?
Chiomara not as big a blowhard as you. Atleast I didnt claim to run a company. Lmao.
Fine dont believe me I really could care less feminists arent known to believe anything that goes against their narrative. Fuck intellectual honestly and debate.
You can ask me literally anything regarding my field of study or work and I can answer it.
How much does your company make you pay for the carpal tunnel you got pushing buttons for a living?
“This douche does realize when they get old, they may want people to take care of them, right? Maybe those kids they’ll probably never have or something? Will those people that take care of them be “lazy” then still?
I mean, I don’t know about you guys, but I am tempted to ask what did he study because that sounds like a dream job.
Yeah, 80 hours a week of studying and working for four years to fill out reports. They’ve made such good life decisions.”
Jack, my friend this was why you were a disappointment to your parents.
You dont study in college for any specific tasks you study to get generalized knowledge on your future field of work. You dont have that when you study gender studies, so I understand why you dont know this fundamental fact.
I dont fill reports, I create them from scratch.
Jack thats a good question. 80 grand starting salary. I dont have carpal tunnel cause I use an ergonomic chair and table. Its worth its weight in gold.
Wait I realized you typed make me pay. What do you mean jack?