So another YouTube videogamer dude with a ludicrously enormous number of subscribers has started talking like a Nazi.
Jon “JonTron” Jafari built up his fanbase — he’s got more than 3 million subscribers on YouTube — with videos big on jokes and light on politics. But in recent months he’s started talking politics, and of course, this being 2017, it turns out that his politics are pretty terrible Trumpian/alt-right garbage.
OPPRESSION TEST: Can you drive to McDonalds not in hijab and get biggest Big Mac value meal? If yes: Not oppressed
— JonTron (@JonTronShow) January 24, 2017
Wow, how scandalous, Steve King doesn't want his country invaded by people who have contempt for his culture and people! NAZI!!!
— JonTron (@JonTronShow) March 12, 2017
If a nation cannot decide who to let in, or remove, it is not a nation at all
— JonTron (@JonTronShow) March 13, 2017
I wonder if they came back to life and saw a man marching on DC wearing a pink pussy on his head how fast they would eat cyanide pic.twitter.com/wMRcwNCfXh
— JonTron (@JonTronShow) January 24, 2017
Dude, take another look at the picture you just posted. The Founding Fathers wore leggings and powdered wigs. I don’t think a man wearing a pink hat would really faze them. But I digress.
Even some of his most devoted fans began to worry a little when, late in January, JonTron appeared on a 5-hour livestream with reactionary YouTube blabber Carl of Swindon Sargon of Akkad and basically came out as an alt-right fellow traveller.
This Sunday he managed to top even this with a surreal two-hour online debate with fellow YouTube videogamer dude Destiny. It did not go well for him, debate-wise, and over the course of the debate he revealed just how much of a racist idiot he really is.
In the JonTron subreddit, because of course there is such a thing, most of his fans seem to be a bit alarmed by his terrible opinions; he’s also lost more than 10,000 YouTube subscribers.
One industrious Redditor transcribed a number of JonTron’s more, well, colorful statements. Here are a few of them. (I haven’t gone back and checked these against the video because, well, life is short, but I believe these are mostly accurate.)
- “Wealthy blacks … commit more crime than poor whites, that’s a fact.”
- “What is so offensive about white people saying they’d like to preserve their demographic majority?”
- “It’s clear that whites are not allowed to speak up against their demographic um… oblivion.”
- “[Whites] are not being killed, they’re being displaced. You are the same guy who says that Europeans displaced the native Americans but apparently, when other people do it to white Americans, it’s okay because fuck white people.”
- “Why is it when the chinese were trying to colonise tibet, why was that a save tibet situation but when it’s white people… I’m using an analogy to try to give a parallel situation so you can see the hypocrisy.”
- “There is an absolute disproportionate of crime committed to whites by nonwhites. There’s no arguing that, that’s just FBI statistics. But white people are not allowed to address this because it’s called racist by people like you.”
- “I don’t recall Trump ever saying anything explicitly racist.”
- “Nobody wants to become a minority in their own country. Why is it bad if they (whites) remain a majority?”
- “Not all Mexicans are going to go on welfare but a lot of them are going to commit crimes. The El Salvadoreans are going to create the MS13 gangs.”
- “These days the confederate flag has been banned, they’re burning american flags in the streets. … And I think immigration policies that haven’t been the smartest are partially to blame for that.”
- “We’ve gotten rid of discrimination in our western countries. If you don’t think we’ve gotten rid of discrimination, you’re living in a fantasy land.”
- “This oppression in America, it doesn’t exist.”
Though JonTron likes to present himself as a champion of Truth and Reason, most of these are alleged truths are not in fact true, and most of his opinions are decidedly unreasonable. Adding to the surreality: the earnest defender of all things white is himself half Iranian.
I think this calls for the infinite facepalm.
If god forbid you want to listen to the whole damn debate, you can find it here, all 2 hours of it.
I tried to find a watchable video with some excerpts in it, to no avail; the only ones that did contain actual clips tended to be by pasty white dudes more or less defending JonTron.
This video doesn’t have any clips in it, but it summarizes the whole JonTron mess in a relatively non-annoying way, which is really the best you can hope for on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R02k1sQpc2k
The only good thing that could come out of this is a new HBomb video.
Technically Iranians are “aryans”, so it’s not that far out.
Not that most racists care.
Not mentioned here, but he is of Iranian descent, (I believe his father is an Iranian immigrant) so the people he supports would walk over his dead body to keep this country “pure.”
Also, can we start calling people out who claim that homogeneity has led to the great empires of the world. Its so untrue, and whenever anyone is arguing with these fools, no one pushes back on them with the facts.
Opps it is mentioned here. Get it together with your reading comprehension, lady.
Maybe this isn’t just me, but does this asshole actually own a Nazi costume?
You should check his youtube metrics dropping like a stone. Also in a fit of irony he shut down his subreddit because he couldn’t handle the fact that alot of his fans actually don’t like fascists.
I’m with Scented. Bring on a new Hbomb video! Sometimes it’s just better to openly mock and giggle at these dudes rather than seriously rebut them, because all that does is grant their bullshit legitimacy. Hbomb has even said that in the past; that he wondered if he should address their claims, but then he came to the conclusion that all he can do is laugh at all the skullmen on Youtube.
If people want to poke fun at old sci-fi movies I don’t see how that’s a threat?
Pewdiepie, markiplier and now this a**hole.
Peanutbuttergamer, Projared and Cryaotic. Don’t fail me now.
What did markiplier do?
From the video: “virtue signalling is a term that assholes use to make people feel bad for having empathy”.
@Fruitloopsie
What did Markiplier do?
EDIT:NInja’d
Fuckin, Sarjon of ECHad, man. He’s legitimately hilarious in his videos and now all this? Bleh, fuck him.
@Scented Fucking Hard Chairs . I can’t wait for the HBom vid. He “loves” Sargon too, and probably sustains himself on alt-right nonsense. Love that man.
Y’know, for whatever reason, I never liked most gaming youtubers ’cause I actually operated under the assumption that they were racist asses.
I have no clue where I could’ve got that idea so long ago, but now I know that it’s true. And I’m getting the weirdest, strongest déjà-vu of my life.
Of course this is happening just when the industry at large is starting to make some real progress, so I think it’s super important to adress their bullshit, if only to make said industry aware that any attempt at pandering to gators and fascists based on popular youtubers’ opinions is not gonna go well.
@Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Speaking of which TotalBiscuit with his chronic dickhole behaviors decided to defend Jontron on his nazi antics. This asshole was the biggest propogator of GG and never took responsibility for it. Of course he would say something like this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/5z82wk/destiny_debates_jontron/
https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/gizmodo-planet-of-hacks
https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/the-maddening-crowd
@Jesalin
“I mean I only wanted to make Trans Jim Crow Laws a thing. That doesn’t mean I’m a bigot.” If only every other bigoted governor and poltician got the same treatment.
OT (but I found it kind of amusing):
http://the-daily.buzz/a/former-nc-gov-who-passed-anti-trans-law-cant-find-work-because-people-think-he?utm_content=inf_10_1163_2&tse_id=INF_42f97ef0098f11e79b1a07d5f3e08d7d
*dies laughing*
I don’t understand this quote. Native Americans got killed A LOT. It’s a massive atrocity. And the ones that got displaced were forced into Indian Territory by the government, the Trail of Tears is just one of the best known times.
(I know the quote doesn’t make sense bc it’s racist trash but usually I can see the logic they’re trying to use)
I remember when a former friend showed me some Jontron videos as an example of a “reasonable” Gamergator. Well well, look how that turned out.
Yeah, somehow I kind of doubt that’s actually happening. It sounds more like he’s applying for Wingnut Welfare – aka, getting a bunch of dumb-ass conservatives to give him lots of money and shit.
@Oogly
“I just wanna play games, not hear about politics !”
@Jesalin
Read about that yesterday and laughed my ass off.
Seriously, I mean, the dude is actually whining about not having access to crank welfare anymore.
That’s some bulletproof irony right there.
ETA : ninja’d by Gaebolga, but please mind the comments policy. “Crank welfare” is the viable alternative that I personally use, but if you’ve got a better one I’m listening.
@Gaebolga
Comments policy. Thanks
Edit: ninjad by John
@Jesalin
Yes. Yes you are. Enjoy the free market avoiding you like the plague, asshole ?
And some of his fellow YouTubers (Totalbiscuit/Boogie) are coming up to his defense, or more to the point, they are defending themselves as fellow travellers. Sad, really sad!
First, this:
Nobody wants to become a minority in their own country. Why is it bad if they (whites) remain a majority?
We’ve gotten rid of discrimination in our western countries. If you don’t think we’ve gotten rid of discrimination, you’re living in a fantasy land.