A lovely little MGTOW meme for Friday night. Inside of every Man Going His Own Way is a delusional doofus who fantasizes about society collapsing in a heap so that he can say “told you so” to all the women he’s ever had an unrequited crush on.
Now, I’m no expert in post-apocalypse survival, but I’m pretty sure that if (when?) society collapses no one will be feeling particularly cocky. And that it will be the people who cooperate with one another who will be the most likely to survive, not the prickly MGTOWs still holding a grudge about the girl who turned them down in 8th grade.
EDITED TO ADD: I found this meme on a MGTOW Facebook page here. Lots more ridiculousness there.
EJ- Pretty much, yeah, they do.
And yeah, resources would be king and that’s something Mad Max: Fury Road got very right. The only chance of the type of fever dream they imagine being established would be bases on rare resources like water or consistent stable food. And then, it would be like most cults, one person benefitting, the rest conscripted to protect them in exchange for scraps. They are very unlikely to be the “one person benefitting” and that “one person benefitting” will always be looking behind their back for the person tired of dealing with their shit and willing to take out their oppressor for a bit of peace.
If they can’t survive, thrive and get love in a society which is pretty geared towards them doing just that, why do they think things will be different in more brutish environment?
They’ll just fail harder, more often and this time with no ‘civilisation’ to blame.
For men who are happy to be going their own way, they certainly do fantasize about women paying attention to them an awful lot.
You guys are making me want to play http://apocalypse-world.com/ again
The funny thing about this is, in order to be an “Alpha” warlord or whatever, you’d actually need skills and strength to do it.
I highly doubt that any of the Miggy-Toes here would be up for the challenge, and would, very likely, be in the same situation they wish women were in.
Crawling to the other encampments begging for food and medicine because they have no skills to speak of, outside of being a wannabe-pretentious jackass.
You people make me want to play http://apocalypse-world.com/ again
Whoops sorry double post
In my childhood I was better at the spy game than the neighbourhood boys. Why do they think that they’d suddenly have the creeping, hiding, and climbing skills that they didn’t have then?
I would probably die pretty quick in an apocalypse. I wouldn’t have much to contribute in that scenario. Nevertheless, I don’t feel that this means I should be forced to have sex with men that hate me.
Whenever we have an MGTOW apocalypse post, I always wonder what kind of apocalypse they’re actually envisioning. In a zombie scenario, than violence skills would be very important. I’m not sure how much time you’d have to set up a system of sexual slavery when you’re constantly trying not to be bitten by hordes of the undead though. Even in a zombie apocalypse, working together would be necessary however. You can’t fight off a thousand zombies alone.
If the apocalypse was some sort of plague that killed off the vast majority of people, like in The Stand, strongmen would be fairly useless. With the population depleted but little environmental damage, there’d be plenty of canned food and bottled water just lying around and not much competition for it. It would be all about banding together to form new communities.
In a nuclear apocalypse, there wouldn’t be too many hot babes around. The effects of radiation poisoning aren’t terribly attractive.
I think what they’re imagining is that right wing fantasy where governments spend too much money and it somehow causes them to completely collapse. I’m not sure how this would happen though. If the population and infrastructure were still intact, a new government would form pretty quickly and I have no reason to think that MGTOW would be in charge of it.
Really, I can’t think of a single apocalyptic scenario that would actually put them in charge. Even if there was a community that was run by a brutal and misogynistic strongman like Negan’s group in TWD, why are the MGTOW the leaders? It takes charisma to become a dictator. We know the average MGTOW doesn’t have any because they’re constantly whining about how alphas are getting laid and they aren’t. Why would they want a society in which the alpha male runs things and takes all the conventionally attractive women for himself? Wouldn’t betas such as themselves be even worse off? Or is it just that they want women to be raped and enslaved and which men are doing the raping and enslaving matters little? Oh. That’s what it is.
Ick.
Gerbils. Lots of gerbils.
Heh. I’m imagining MGTOWs after the apocalypse, pestering women who are far too busy for their shit.
“Helpless woman, by accepting this can of peaches, you consent to join my harem.”
“Dammit, Jerry, you just trampled my tomato seedlings!”
The people who fantasize about being powerful in a society with broken down institutions should stop watching Mad Max and instead watch City of God.
Everyone should watch City of God.
Cerberus: part of their fantasy is that they’d be able to practice the kind of alfalfa brutal dominance display they view themselves as having within them, but our “liberal feminazi society” is preventing them from actinf out (because you know, laws and shit). That’s why they imagine themselves at the top of the pyramid – all those betas and women who are too soft and sensitive to fight them will be slaves! Slaves I tells ya! Hahahaha!
Except that it’s a fundamental misunderstanding of how social creatures, like us, function. Good leaders are the ones that will rise to the top. They win respect, prove their worthiness by successful effective decisions and above all make those “underneath” them feel taken care of. Meanwhile, as history as shown, dictators are almost always toppled by force (if their regimes don’t collapse under their own weight). Migtows forget the power of a united mob. Good luck taking on the rebellion, idiots.
@Matteo Suppo
that’s the RPG I’m currently running! best post apocalyptic RPG there is, for my money.
OT: Final Season of Samurai Jack premiers tonight. Fans will finally have some closure on Jack’s story.
Ah, so they will finally get women to sleep with them in post-apocalyptic America.. Because of the “implications.”
This seems as good a place as any to put a Margaret Atwood reference:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/books/review/margaret-atwood-handmaids-tale-age-of-trump.amp.html
Apocalypse World is very good. Did you know there’s a hack that does cyberpunk a la Shadowrun. (But without the magic bits)
This Apocalypse World has my interest. what kind of mechanics does it use?
@Flora We’ve been discussing it in the comments here and there. Thanks for the latest update. 🙂
@Fabe
Class-based, pretty rules light, very narrative play style. I’m not personally a fan.
It’s not just MGTOW that fantasise about this stuff.
Conspiracy theorists have been harping on about it for ages, and the internet is bursting at the seams with posts from NWO-obsessed libertarian/survivalist misanthropes, that have been stockpiling guns, dried goods and water for years. They eagerly await the collapse of society. In part that’s because they believe they’ll finally get the kind of access to women that has been denied them up to this point.
Anybody here seen the dreadful post-apocalyptic Kevin Costner film, The Postman?
The villain of the piece is essentially an embodiment of this kind of fantasy. Pre-apocalypse, an unpleasant but mostly harmless copier salesman. Post-apocalypse, he’s become a feudal warlord, roaming from settlement to settlement, demanding tribute and female flesh in equal measure.
OT:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/10/us_legislation_forcing_employees_genetic_info/
@Andy Cooper
The book is much better, and makes that point much harder. While it’s never specified what the original apocalypse was, it is shown that recovery would have already happened if it weren’t for the violent shithead survivalists who took it as license to run rampant, thereby fucking everything up way worse than it already was.
(Spoiler: In the end, it turns out that the reason the survivalists are pushing north deeper into Oregon is because the Republic of California has rebuilt a civilization, and their army is coming for these fuckers who’ve been raiding them ever since the fall of the old world.)
Jesalin,
My God. Suddenly The Handmaid’s Tale looks even more prescient.