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Sick and tired of being sick and tired

Hey, folks. Just a note to let you know that I’m still, you know, alive. So, alas, is my flu.

That said, I do seem to be getting a bit better, day by day. I’m hoping I’ll be back posting again pretty soon.

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Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

alive. So, alas, is my flu

Ooh now we can have a discussion about whether viruses are in fact ‘alive’. See, even when you’re poorly you give us stuff to chat about. Cheers.

And hope you’re back to full health soon.

Elizabeth Regina
Elizabeth Regina
4 years ago

Get better soon, David.

Internet hugs.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
4 years ago

It’s good to hear news, and I hope you get well soon.

Also I hope your cats are giving you some comfort and not, y’know, acting like assholes about they hungry when you need to lay down or something like that.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
4 years ago

All the best to you, David; get better soon!! <3

Bina
4 years ago

Ugh, flu sucks…I’m over my latest chest cold, but my phlegm has yet to get the news. Feel MUCH better soon.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
4 years ago

Virtual Nice Cups of Tea and/or chicken soup ad libitum. Hope you feel alltheway better soon.

Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
4 years ago

Here’s to a quick recovery.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
4 years ago

Don’t overdo it, David!

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
4 years ago

@Alan
If they can be killed, are they not alive? *looks philosophically into the middle distance*

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

Get well soon, David.

@Alan

I fall on the side of virus particles being alive.

JoeB
JoeB
4 years ago

I found just what you need to get back up and posting David!

I guess juice sales were lagging…

Jules
Jules
4 years ago

Take your time, man. Don’t feel like you need to keep on top of updates here while you’re sick.

LeftWingFox
LeftWingFox
4 years ago

Hope you feel better soon. ๐Ÿ™

Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
4 years ago

I don’t want to make this thread all about me, but I am for realz, actually engaged!

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
4 years ago

@Viscaria

I donโ€™t want to make this thread all about me, but I am for realz, actually engaged!

This thread is now, officially, all about Viscaria and Visfiancรฉ until further notice. Alsocomment image

Ooglyboggles
4 years ago

@Viscaria
Oh my gawd congratulations!
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Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
4 years ago

Thanks friends ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@Viscaria
Conga Rats!

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

@David
Take it easy and get plenty of rest. Here’s to your (just-around-the-corner) return to good health!

@Viscaria
Visualize another super cute kitten wishing all the best to you and your new fiance.

@Bina

Iโ€™m over my latest chest cold, but my phlegm has yet to get the news.

So I’m not the only one! Feel better.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
4 years ago

That’s wonderful, Viscaria! Congratulations! ๐Ÿ’

gijoel
gijoel
4 years ago

Maybe this will make you feel better. Someone was handing out Russian flags with Trump in gold embroidery on them at CPAC.

Otrame
Otrame
4 years ago

@Viscaria

Congrats and all best wishes.

Re: It’s Alive!

Or at least it is if it maintains homeostasis, is composed of cells, undergoes metabolism, can grow, adapt to the environment, respond to stimuli, and reproduce. It has been argued that a virus is not alive since it does not have a metabolism and can only reproduce with the help of processes found in living cells. It has also been argued that using external sources for metabolism and reproduction is still metabolism and reproduction.

As no more than an interested layman, it seems to me that since viruses are known to evolve (change over time), the very definition of evolution suggests that viruses are alive. Sort of.

Are the retroviruses that have been inserted in your genome over time alive? Did they only become alive when they joined the human genome? Are viruses only alive while attached to a cell, hijacking its metabolism in order to reproduce a bunch of young viruses which in turn will not be alive until they, too, attach to a host cell?

There does not seem to be a large consensus on this. It looks like there is a lot more to learn on the subject.

EJ (Marxist Jazz Weasel)

There does not seem to be a large consensus on this. It looks like there is a lot more to learn on the subject.

Based on recent experience, I imagine that if biologists tightened up their definition of “life” to provide a definite answer on this one, they would run into a wall of public dissatisfaction and ill-informed calls to change it once again. My heart goes out to them; it’s a tough situation.

On the other hand, Viscaria’s engagement is not a tough situation, and congrats! YOU HAS THE SPARKLY!

Monzach
Monzach
4 years ago

Get well soon, David! ๐Ÿ™‚

Congratulations, Viscaria!

I’m…also alive. It’s my birthday today, so I thought I’d come and check in with the Mammotheers. I’m still not exactly comfortable with being an active member of the community but I wanted to let everyone know that I’m doing comparatively well. Also, I’m 35 today so…yay?

ryeash
ryeash
4 years ago

@David

I think you caught the superbug my city accidentally created when we all decided to leave our houses and become activists at once. It’s a lovely combination of cold and flu symptoms, because we only produce the best death viruses! It took down all six people in my house and a good half of every activist group I was part of for a couple of weeks. Mint tea with generous helpings of lemon and honey was my best friend and the only thing that would turn off the faucet that was my nose for an hour at a time. Feel better!

@Viscaria

Hooray! Congratulations!

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

@Monzach
Happy Birthday! I hope you have a wonderful day.
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ETA: Maybe it’ll be a beach birthday!

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
4 years ago

@Viscaria

Congratulations, and best wishes for a long and happy life together!

Samantha
Samantha
4 years ago

David, you just get better. I know that it has been a while since I have posted here, but I read every day and send folk your way. I, too, have this lovely flu and am getting over it.

Take your time, watch some sunsets and some movies and cartoons, laugh as much as you can, and know we all love you.

Be well. Be safe.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
4 years ago

Congratulations Viscaria, and happy roundthesun day Monzach!

Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
4 years ago

Thanks, everyone!

YOU HAS THE SPARKLY!

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He’s not getting it back.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Monzach! Hope it was fabulous!

ramen
ramen
4 years ago

I “like” viruses as a reminder that even our most basic dichotomies usually turn out to be spectra. Wait, “spectra”? Yeah.

Otrame
Otrame
4 years ago

@ramen

Plural of spectrum. Those two years of Latin 50 years ago still serve me well.

And you make a good point.

Sarah
Sarah
4 years ago

Hope you feel better soon!

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
4 years ago

@David : get better soon.

@Otrame : there is several definition possible for alive. And several kind of virus. Depending on your definition, all, some, or none of the virus are alive.

The main subdivision who is important here is that some very big virus are A – the size of bacteria, B – a genome close in size to a bacteria and C – synthetize a lot more of their own machinery than usual. In other word, they highjack significantly less things than normal virus, and mostly are freeloader inside the cells instead.

Note that prions, the proteins responsible for some diseases (creuzfelt-jacob in particular) can be seen as alive for the widest definition, since they sort-of reproduce and sort-of evolve.

Another example of the grey area are thoses bacterias who have became part of another cell, namely the mitochondry and the chloroplasts (and maybe the nucleus ? I don’t remember). They can’t quite live alone, but yet are somewhat separated from the cells. Same thing for the various symbiote that live in our guts, who for the most part can’t live outside a living being (or a human for some), and have a lot of influence on our weight and behavior. Should thoses count as part of the human being ? Should they count as separate being ?

Also, it’s not a debate who is seen as extremely important by biologists, since it’s a label we put on things more than anything else. A virus being alive or not does not change our view of it much.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

Congratulations Viscaria!!!!

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Happy Birthday Monzach too!!!

*eats cake*

Scildfreja Unnรฝรฐnes
Scildfreja Unnรฝรฐnes
4 years ago

@David! Get your rest, feel better soon!

@Monzach! Happy birthday! You don’t ever have to post, but I’m always glad for your contributions when I see them.

@Viscaria, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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Rhuu
Rhuu
4 years ago

@Viscaria: Congrats! That’s wonderful!

@Monzach: BIRFDAY TWINS! I am one year younger than you as well, so very nearly for realsies birthday twins!

Jesalin
Jesalin
4 years ago

@Viscaria

*squee* OMG Congratulations!!

Monzach
Monzach
4 years ago

Thanks for the birthday wishes, everyone! ^_^ I got a very lovely birthday present from a family friend, namely a 20 Euro note which will come very handy for the purposes of getting some needed groceries. ๐Ÿ™‚

@Rhuu: Hippy burpday, birthday twin! Hugs if they’re welcome.

@Scildfreja: Thank you very much for your extremely kind words. ๐Ÿ™‚

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

@David: I just got over a flu a few days ago and I’m still feeling the negative effects of it. Feel better soon.

@Viscaria: Congratulations! May your lives together be blessed with good fortune, lots of communication, and as much love as you have in your heart.

Off topic, but I did hurt my leg this morning, possibly because all this walking I’ve been doing to get back and forth to work/internship, which may have aggravated my old muscle injury that I got in high school (ironically by doing this same kind of shit: School/work, no days off, walky walky walky everywhere, on my feet 8 hours a day at work, etc.)

I got a really bad cramp in it as soon as I woke up, and it kind of hurts to walk on. I took a hot shower and it helped a bit and it feels better now.

Luckily, I have today off, so I’m going to favor it as much as possible and stay off of it so (hopefully) it won’t be as bad tomorrow when I go back to my internship…which I have to walk 20 minutes, take three buses, and climb a flight of stairs to get to. And then I have to do the same thing on the way home, but walk an extra twenty minutes for the last stretch, because bus schedules around here are wonky af and the last bus I’d need to take would require me to walk five minutes to get to it, but it doesn’t run around the time I would get there.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
4 years ago

@Paradoxy
Yooo, fuck buses down south tho! Schedules don’t make no sense, routes make even less. I can either take a bus and then walk 20 min to work, or take 2 buses. By some fuckery, both take the same amount of time. By even more fuckery, it’s a 7 min drive from my house
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Sympathies and feel better <3

Rhuu
Rhuu
4 years ago

@Monzach: Hugs are always welcome! Hugs back, if you’d like. Or cookies! Or a slice of the japanese sponge cake I’m going to (try) to make! (We’ll see how it rises, me and beating eggs have a complicated relationship.)

Or all three? For all? ๐Ÿ˜€

@Paradoxical Intention: I FEEL YOU ON THE BUSES. Transit can be ridiculous! When I was still living at home (many, many years ago now) I had to take two different bus systems to get to college. Every day I would pull into the station and watch my bus (that comes every twenty minutes) pull out. Every day I could just watch it go.

I hope the day off helps you feel better.

;___;

I am in need of some help. Someone posted a link to a ridiculously detailed post on making perfect potatoes. I wanted to print it today, but do you think I can remember the site, the author, or any more key phrases than ‘scientifically tested perfect baked potatoes’? NOPE.

Could I get that link again, please?

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
4 years ago

Congrats, Viscaria, Monzach, Rhuu.

I’ll be 35 late this year. On some other progressive US blogs I read, there’s also a regular commenter who’s a thirtysomething Finnish guy. We are apparently a legion.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
4 years ago

EJ:

Based on recent experience, I imagine that if biologists tightened up their definition of โ€œlifeโ€ to provide a definite answer on this one, they would run into a wall of public dissatisfaction and ill-informed calls to change it once again.

Well if Pluto the cartoon dog wouldn’t be alive anymore…

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ rhuu

And happy birthday to you to.

Re: public transport

We were once hiking in the Yorkshire Dales. It started pelting it down so we asked a friendly local what time the next bus was.

“Wednesday”

(and this was on a Sunday)

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
4 years ago

Happy roundthesun day to Rhuu too, to you too Rhuu! (it kind of sounds like a fanfare ๐Ÿ™‚ )

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
4 years ago

Happy Birthday, Monzach and Rhuu! ๐ŸŽ‚

(Monzach, I know exactly how you feel.)

Hambeast (fan of diversity)
Hambeast (fan of diversity)
4 years ago

Monzach, Rhuu – Happy Birthdays!

Viscaria – Happy Engagement!

Bina – I “got over” my cold a week and a half ago and am still phlegmmy.

Ohlmann said

A virus being alive or not does not change our view of it much.

That view being “It needs to die!” right?

re: bus schedules – Alan’s story wins, but it’s so bad where I live, an ex-roomate had to go to a town (that was a 20 minute car ride) on the horribly scheduled bus and it took her 4 hours. I popped down to pick her up when I got off work* because it was such ridiculous fuckery. Just another way the poor get screwed!

*The reason she had to bus it; she had an appointment to continue her food stamps (this was 2003 before SNAP cards) and I had to work. I live in a suburb that I like to say ‘doesn’t allow poor people’ because *none* of the social safety net gov’t offices are local except for WIC.

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