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Trump voters: As whiny and self-pitying as Men’s Rights Activists?

Right back atcha, you pieces of crap

Anyone wbo has read this blog for any length of time is well aware how adept Men’s Rights Activists are at convincing themselves (if not necessarily anyone else) that they are the true victims in any given situation.

Indeed, writer and workshopper Warren Farrell, whose books have provided much of the intellectual underpinning of MRA ideology, has argued in complete seriousness that men are victimized by women’s butts. A shapely posterior, you see, has such a hypnotizing power over your typical horny man that young women have what he once called “miniskirt power” over their male bosses at work.

An article in today’s New York Times suggests that many Trump voters are equally adept at painting themselves as the victims — in their case not of butts but of liberal meanies.

It’s an absolute must read. Not because it’s a good article — it’s terrible — but because it is so revealing, not only about Trump voters but also about the strange reluctance of so many in the supposedly liberal press to hold Trump voters accountable for anything they say or do. Indeed, the basic thesis of the piece — titled “Are Liberals Helping Trump?” — is that liberals are being so mean to Trump voters that they’re pushing them even further into Trumpland.

The piece starts with a brief portrait of Jeffrey Medford, a South Carolinian who voted “reluctantly” for the most dangerous man to ever occupy the Oval Office. Trouble is, when he brings this up in any venue also frequented by liberals, they’re like all mean to him.

Mr. Medford should be a natural ally for liberals trying to convince the country that Mr. Trump was a bad choice. But it is not working out that way. Every time Mr. Medford dips into the political debate — either with strangers on Facebook or friends in New York and Los Angeles — he comes away feeling battered by contempt and an attitude of moral superiority.

“We’re backed into a corner,” said Mr. Medford, 46, whose business teaches people to be filmmakers. “There are at least some things about Trump I find to be defensible. But they are saying: ‘Agree with us 100 percent or you are morally bankrupt. You’re an idiot if you support any part of Trump.’ ”

He added: “I didn’t choose a side. They put me on one.”

Uh, dude, you put yourself on the side of an unstable, authoritarian bigot by voting for him. If you didn’t know what you were getting when you voted for him, then you weren’t paying attention. Trump started out his campaign with an explicitly racist attack on Mexican immigrants, and it pretty much went downhill from there. During his campaign, he revealed himself to be a bully and a chronic liar with no understanding of the job he felt he deserved, a man morally and practically unfit to be president.

And now Trump is making good, or at least trying to, on his terrible promises. His only redeeming feature is that he is so ignorant and inept that he’s fucking it up.

Oh, and did I mention that he’s hellbent on taking away the insurance I and literally millions of other Americans depend on for necessary treatment for the chronic health issues that insurance companies like to call “ongoing conditions?”

So, yeah, some of us are a bit testy.

The article’s author, Sabrina Tavernise, sets forth a thesis that more or less mirrors Medford’s self-pitying “argument.”

Liberals may feel energized by a surge in political activism, and a unified stance against a president they see as irresponsible and even dangerous. But that momentum is provoking an equal and opposite reaction on the right.

“Provoking.” I don’t want to sound, you know, mean here, but this is the logic abusers use to blame their victims for their own abusive meltdowns. It’s a kind of argument that seems to come naturally to MRAs, Trump supporters, and Trump-supporter enablers.

In recent interviews, conservative voters said they felt assaulted by what they said was a kind of moral Bolshevism — the belief that the liberal vision for the country was the only right one. 

Assaulted? You know who else feels assaulted? The longtime residents of this country who have been arrested and deported by ICE, including one woman picked up at a courthouse after she complained of domestic abuse. The Muslims held for hours in airports as a result of Trump’s profoundly un-American executive order.

Is it “self-righteous” for those opposed to Trump to point out the actual effects of his bigoted policies?

Protests and righteous indignation on social media and in Hollywood may seem to liberals to be about policy and persuasion. But moderate conservatives say they are having the opposite effect, chipping away at their middle ground and pushing them closer to Mr. Trump.

Again, it’s the logic of an abuser: “You made me hit you!”

“The name calling from the left is crazy,” said Bryce Youngquist, 34, who works in sales for a tech start-up in Mountain View, Calif., a liberal enclave where admitting you voted for Mr. Trump is a little like saying in the 1950s that you were gay.

First, it’s not “a little like” that at all. Second, are you seriously complaining that the left is … calling you names?

I mean, you do remember all of this, don’t you?

I feel just terrible for these people.

Mr. Younquist wasn’t quite so open about his Trump support.

“The only place he felt comfortable wearing his Make America Great Again hat,” Tavernise informs us,

was on a vacation in China. Even dating became difficult. Many people on Tinder have a warning on their profile: “Trump supporters swipe left” — meaning, get lost.

POOR BABY

“They were making me want to support him more with how irrational they were being,” Mr. Youngquist said.

I hate to tell you this, Mr. STEMLOGIC, but that’s not a very rational response at all.

Tavernise weighs in again with her equally stupid opinion. Which is pretty much the same opinion as all the Trump supporters she interviewed.

[I]f political action is meant to persuade people that Mr. Trump is bad for the country, then people on the fence would seem a logical place to start. Yet many seemingly persuadable conservatives say that liberals are burning bridges rather than building them.

How “persuadable” is someone who gets so mad that some women don’t want to date guys they violently disagree with politically that he decides he’s just going to SUPPORT TRUMP EVEN HARDER SO THERE TAKE THAT!!!1!!

But no Trump supporter may have suffered more for her beliefs than Ann O’Connell, a “retired administrative assistant in Syracuse who voted for Mr. Trump” despite being a registered Democrat. (She apparently liked Trump’s promise to build a big old wall to protect her from all the evil Mexicans who are creeping over our southern border and then I guess for some reason creeping all the way up to Syracuse, NY, not far from the Canadian border, where the percentage of Hispanics is far below the national average and which is actually a really terrible place to look for jobs right now.)

Anyway, Ms. O’Connell has suffered mightily for her beliefs. For she can no longer enjoy Meryl Streep movies! You know, because that mean actress lady gave that speech about how shitty it is to mock disabled people.

Mrs. O’Connell feels hopeless. She has deleted all her news feeds on Facebook and she tries to watch less TV. But politics keeps seeping in.

“I love Meryl Streep, but you know, she robbed me of that wonderful feeling when I go to the movies to be entertained,” she said.

BOO HOO HOO

Here’s my question: is it possible that these Trump supporters are feeling so defensive about their vote for president because on some level they know what they did was indefensible?

Or am I just being mean for even asking that question?

H/T — @ParkerMolloy, who posted a couple of the pics I used on Twitter.

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Kat
Kat
3 years ago

@LindsayIrene

While looking into that little scandal, I found something even worse. If these stories get traction, they could seriously hurt Milo’s career(fingers crossed, knock on wood).

I had heard nothing about this. I worked all night on Sunday and then dropped by here, landed on your comment first, and clicked through. Wow!

I told my boyfriend, “Milo is ruined. CPAC will uninvite him. Much, much worse, Simon & Schuster will refuse to publish him and demand to have the advance returned. But I don’t know if Breitbart will fire him. They might say he was just joking.”

I went to bed and woke up to hear that CPAC had uninvited him, S&S won’t publish him, and Breitbart is . . . thinking it over. No doubt they will discuss their high editorial standards and their awesome responsibility to their readers deep into the night. Snurfle. Nah, they just wanna see which way the wind blows on child molestation.

And poor Simon & Schuster:

The decision is likely to be a costly one for Simon & Schuster, which may not be able to recover the portion of the reported $250,000 advance it had already paid to Mr. Yiannopoulos. “Dangerous” had sold just under 50,000 copies, according to his literary agent, Thomas Flannery Jr., who said he planned to find another publisher.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/20/us/politics/cpac-milo-yiannopoulos.html

Instant (or maybe it’s just quick-cooking) karma gonna get you!

If I were going to bet, I’d say that the Breitbart employees’ threat to walk will make them cancel Milo. And I can’t imagine any reputable company publishing Milo’s steaming pile of crap now.

ETA from the same NYT article:

In a statement released through his agent, Mr. Yiannopoulos said: “The people whose views, concerns and fears I am articulating do not sip white wine and munch canapés in gilded salons. And they will not be defeated by the cocktail set running New York publishing. Nor will I.”

Oh no, not canapés! Not white wine! And publishing is a notoriously underpaid business. Not so much for the big-wigs, of course. But most of the people who work in publishing do it because they love books.

Kat
Kat
3 years ago

Damn you, blockquote Mammoth! Damn you to hell!!!11!

Also, Milo’s statements about pedophilia seem to have doomed him.

But it’s President Trump who was sued by a woman who claimed that he raped her when she was 13 (but later dropped her case due to what she said were threats):

Donald Trump Is Accused Of Raping A 13-Year-Old. Why Haven’t The Media Covered It?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-rape-case_us_581a31a5e4b0c43e6c1d9834

Christina Nordlander, Emperor's White Knight
Christina Nordlander, Emperor's White Knight
3 years ago

@Moggie: I’d already heard that Horowitz’s film was misleadingly edited, so I’m 100% unsurprised (but happy that the Swedish police officers are speaking up).

Unfortunately, the people who go around screaming “evil Muslims raping our white wimmin!” aren’t going to be convinced by mere paltry facts.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

As you may know the UK parliament debated yesterday about whether Trump should be accorded an official state visit (as opposed to an official visit). Here’s a link to the proceedings that should work for Mamotheers even outside the UK. The actual debate starts at around 1:28:30 on the video link*.

http://heavy.com/news/2017/02/watch-uk-parliament-debate-live-donald-trump-state-visit-britain-video-videos-petition-queen-online/

It’s well worth a watch. Some poignant stuff, some fascinating stuff and some pretty funny stuff.

(*The first hour and half is the Article 50 debate, then it switches over)

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

White wine and canapés in gilded salons?

No Milo, you’re articulating a viewpoint that could be more accurately described as white whine.

Okay, okay. Too easy. But I couldn’t let that joke so sit there untold, could I?

Anyways. I wish the right would make up its mind. Are liberals all jobless moochers who are jealous of the money that real Americans have and only advocate for progressive economic policy to punish success? Or are liberals all rich snobs who are out of touch with real Americans and want to ruin their whole lives by making them abide black and brown people?

I usually hate autocorrect but today it’s winning my heart. When I started typing brown it suggested brocialist to me.

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
3 years ago

I keep finding myself quoting the Pro-Left podcast whenever I post here. 😛

Fran “Bluegal” Langum had a great response for the Trump supporters upset that they keep getting called names for backing him:

“I can grant that you personally might not have done anything racist, but I can’t take away the fact that you voted for the candidate endorsed by David Duke and the Ku Klux Klan. I simply can’t take that away from you.”

It’s rather ironic in the historical frame. A decade ago, I’m sure you could find some of these people calling liberals and progressives “traitors” and “un-American” for not supporting Iraq, but the minute they’re taken to task for voting for the Klan-backed candidate, they throw a petulant fit.

For the party of “personal responsibility,” they seem pretty adverse to the idea.

Kat
Kat
3 years ago

Here’s a different point of view about Trump voters and an interesting one:

Outside coastal bubbles, to say ‘America is already great’ rings hollow
Beyond successful neighborhoods in DC, New York City and elite college campuses is an America that has been on a downward trajectory for decades

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/feb/21/outside-coastal-bubbles-to-say-america-is-already-great-rings-hollow

And the Russia thing isn’t going away:

Trump and Russia: Beyond Putin
Deeper and deeper: Congress wakes up as Trump’s ties to Russia look more tangled, and more troubling, than ever

http://www.salon.com/2017/02/21/deeper-and-darker-trumps-unknown-financial-connections-to-russia-may-hold-the-key-to-the-widening-scandal/

Skiriki
Skiriki
3 years ago

WWTH:

White wine and canapés in gilded salons?

You mean, like in Trump household?

Dalillama, Shepherd of Demonic Crocodiles
Dalillama, Shepherd of Demonic Crocodiles
3 years ago

@Kat

Also, Milo’s statements about pedophilia seem to have doomed him.

But it’s President Trump who was sued by a woman who claimed that he raped her when she was 13 (but later dropped her case due to what she said were threats):

Because Milo was talking about adult men and young boys, which, to the Right, is a whole different kettle of fish.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/feb/21/outside-coastal-bubbles-to-say-america-is-already-great-rings-hollow

And, as I pointed out last time this came up, the fault for that lands entirely at the door of the Right.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Yeah, maybe people outside of the “coastal bubbles” shouldn’t have kept voting for the party that stands for union busting, deregulation and low taxes on the wealthy so there’s no money left to invest in infrastructure or pay for social safety nets.

Although, I don’t live anywhere near an ocean and my Metro area has one of the lowest unemployment rates and highest quality of life. Doesn’t stop people from whining about the taxes here though.

Pie
Pie
3 years ago

maybe people outside of the “coastal bubbles” shouldn’t have kept voting for the party that stands for union busting, deregulation and low taxes on the wealthy so there’s no money left to invest in infrastructure or pay for social safety nets.

But what about brown people and abortions? The democrats never promised to get rid of those. Checkmate, WWTH.

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
3 years ago

In a statement released through his agent, Mr. Yiannopoulos said: “The people whose views, concerns and fears I am articulating do not sip white wine and munch canapés in gilded salons. And they will not be defeated by the cocktail set running New York publishing. Nor will I.”

Oh for goodness sake when will we see an end to the parade of charlatans these days pretending to be on the side of “average hard working people”?

(I hate to think it, but the answer might be “when that strategy stops winning them support.” x_x )

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
3 years ago

@WWTH

Nailed it exactly. They went all in on the casino economy and they lost. Liberals told ’em they’d lose, but they called us “big government tax and spend libtards” and proverbially spat in our faces with their votes for Reagan, Bush the Smarter and Bush the Dumber.

I really have no solution for somebody who punches themselves in the face and then blames the guy saying there’s an alternative to punching yourself in the face. Not only that, but they’ll follow up with “You’re the reason I’m punching myself in the face. And I’m going to keep doing it because eventually I’m going to collapse on a black person and injure them worse.” Of course that second part is subtext they’ll never admit to, but they creep ever closer to just saying it aloud.

Robert Sieger
3 years ago

Gussie Jives: “I can grant that you personally might not have done anything racist, but I can’t take away the fact that you voted for the candidate endorsed by David Duke and the Ku Klux Klan. I simply can’t take that away from you.”

Umm, Gussie — Trump did not ask for or benefit from Duke/KKK endorsement. A candidate usually cannot control who endorses him or her. George H.W. Bush recommended the area’s voters vote Democrat back when Duke was running for public office.

I am more likely to hold a candidate endorsed by teachers unions, BLM, “identity politics” advocates, and criminals (such as convicted murderers like Donna Hylton, an honored guest at the Womens March on DC).

It’s too bad you, Gussie, are less concerned about the abolition of the First Amendment on most college/university campuses, intimidation and harassment of dissenters by Soros or union-backed and funded “progressive” groups, politically monolithic arts (Hollywood), software (remember poor Brendan Eich), and mainstream media (I’m still waiting to read about Dianne Feinstein’s billionaire husband being awarded a near billion dollar transportation contract from the state of California).

Too bad when I read on Facebook about Trump supporters who have been, not only defriended but disowned by relatives and friends (even friends of many years).

But I am happy Trump won. I would rather John Kasich, Scott Walker, Mitch Daniels or Mitt Romney were POTUS (not that that woukl do anything to assuage the mindless, nihilistic, hypocritical hatred on the left). But he (or Pence) will have to do. To reward Evita Clinton for her decades of lies, sleaze, hypocrisy, and scandal, was a no go.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Gussie Jives,

Yeah, if people keep talking about how much better things were in the 50s and 60s but start ranting about socialism when you suggest the economic policies that were in place ( unions more encouraged, high taxes on the rich, big infrastructure spending, New Deal financial regulations still in place) should return, what else are we supposed to think you want besides everyone who isn’t white, Christian, cishet and male being put in their place?

Paradoxical Intention: Resident Cheeseburger Slut

Gussie Jives | February 22, 2017 at 8:48 am
I really have no solution for somebody who punches themselves in the face and then blames the guy saying there’s an alternative to punching yourself in the face.

That reminds me of that article someone linked around here a day or so ago, the one about the “liberals are being mean to Trump supporters, wahhh!” nonsense.

More specifically, it reminds me of how the author made it out like Trump was his only option (with that silly Jalopy metaphor), and then got upset when people called him out for taking that “only” option, when there were three other just as viable options.

So, to bring it back around, it’d be like if the person was punching themselves in the face, claiming there’s no other way to do things, and then nailing themselves to a cross and acting upset when someone else gets too exasperated, realizes there’s no talking to this person, and just said “You know what? Fuck you. I’m done with your bullshit., you refuse to listen to reason.”

LindsayIrene
3 years ago
Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@LinsayIrene
Eat a bag of snail dicks Maher you supporter of a more “gentle” form of white supremecy.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ lindsayirene

That first article had some stuff in that might be useful for my little project on radicalisation; so cheers for linking.

Rhuu
Rhuu
3 years ago

@Robert Sieger: It sure took him a while to disavow the support of David Duke and the KKK though, didn’t it? Just like it took him a while to denounce antisemitism? And his ‘disavowal’ is fairly toothless, as well.

What that means is that he’s winking at the KKK, racists, homophobes, transphobes, misogynists, antisemitics, etc etc etc. It means that he says “Yes, “””””””””don’t do that”””””””””””””””‘ *wink*

(Also known as a dogwhistle. He dogwhistles a lot.)

Then he gets all the grassroots support from various hate groups and online troll groups. He gets the memes, that put a loud and outsized presence online.

He gets all the fake news he can handle, which you coincidentally spent about half your comment spouting.

Please, explain one thing to me. I’m sure you’ve figured this out! How does a single fellow like George Soros pay for all the demonstration that’s been happening for months now?

You want us to feel bad that people are ostracised for their decisions to throw people under the bus? I don’t think that’s going to happen. I thought the conservative crowd was all about personal responsibility? This is the consequences of what these trump voters have done. Take some responsibility. Accept the consequences.

Makroth - Agent of the Great Degeneracy
Makroth - Agent of the Great Degeneracy
3 years ago

@Robert Siegler

What’s the problem with teachers unions, BLM, and “identity politics” advocates?

And are you really incapable of believing that people can stand up to these bullies who support a bigger bully(He STARTED his campaign by saying that Mexican immigrants are drug dealers and rapists, by the way) without being part of some shadowy conspiracy? Of course not. Because if you can convince yourself and others that none of them are genuine, you’ll feel less afraid. Well, i have news for you, shitstain. They ARE real. And you oxygen thieves will never be able to silence them or crush them underfoot. They’re tired of putting up with your bullshit. Be afraid, you petulant, vindictive little shit. Be very afraid.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Robert Seiger,

Trump may not have explicitly asked for KKK or Nazi endorsements (although as Rhuu pointed out, he effectively did via the dog whistle) but what does it say about him that all the worst people looked at Trump’s positions, listened to his rhetoric and liked what he heard?

It’s not just the racists that love him. So does the industry that brought down the economy 10 years ago. There was a huge pro Trump stock market rally. Why? Because these people know his administration will be corrupt in his favor. They’re dying to be deregulated so they can rampant until their greed crashes the economy again.

Your ignorant spewing of right wing conspiracy theories is doing nothing but proving our point for us. Keep talking, champ. You’re doing nothing but further embarrassing your side.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Makroth,

It always baffles me about the right that they think it would improve schools to make teaching a shitty impoverishing job. There’s already a problem with bright, talented younger people either being scared to go into teaching or burning out after a couple of years of doing it because it’s a difficult and stressful job that doesn’t start paying well until you have years of seniority. How is making it worse going to help?

I guess it goes back to that puritan Calvinist influence on American culture. Make people suffer until they reach purity and perfection.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ Robert

lies, sleaze, hypocrisy, and scandal

Yeah, but Trump can manage all that with one 140 character Tweet.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@Robert
Nothing like a nazi supporter spewing right wing conspiracies in an afternoon net romp. You advocate hatred, genocide, economic evicercation by elites all in the name of thinking yourself a hero of the white man’s burdens. How laughable.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
3 years ago

How does a single fellow like George Soros pay for all the demonstration that’s been happening for months now?

Maybe Trump pays him government subsidies for creating jobs?

Steph
Steph
3 years ago

God these Trump voters are a whiney lot.

Or “Snowflakes” as they prefer to be called…

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

Shorter Robert Sieger:

WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Dalillama, Shepherd of Demonic Crocodiles
Dalillama, Shepherd of Demonic Crocodiles
3 years ago

@Robert Seig Heil-er:
If you’re just a threadshitter, I’m not gonna wast much effort on you. If you come back, then I’ll put together a proper telling off.

dlouwe
dlouwe
3 years ago

@Robert

I don’t have much to add beyond what’s already been said, but I just want to ask about this:

I am more likely to hold a candidate endorsed by teachers unions, BLM, “identity politics” advocates, and criminals (…).

Did you just like, forget about the beginning of the sentence when you were finished with the parenthetical? You’re more likely to hold a candidate… in what way?

EJ (Marxist Jazz Weasel)

I’ve been on three demos now and George Soros hasn’t paid me once. He never even offered to do so.

I might have been the only one, of course. It’s entirely possible that everyone else went because they were paid and I was the only person doing it because of my convictions.

What do you think the chances of that are?

Laugher at Bigots, Mincing Betaboy

I for one could use some sweet Soros shill money.

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

No shit. Where do I apply for some of that shill money? I have student loans, man…

PaganReader
3 years ago

One of my state’s reps refused to attend a town hall because of ‘paid protestors’ and another (or maybe the same one? They’re both old rich white guys, it’s hard to tell them apart, honestly) refused to attend because of ‘preplanned protests.’
And, on the state level, my local rep is either unable to comprehend how raising the minimum wage will increase state revenue through (state) income taxes and sales tax, or he’s pretending to not understand. I’m not sure which would be worse, really.
Frickin’ Republicans.

PaganReader
3 years ago

@Laughter at Bigots, PI
I, too, could use money for protesting Trump. Granted, I don’t attend marches and the like, but I still protest by pestering my elected officals.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

Man I’d love some of that shill dough. I really could use my own place and be able to pay off college without shanking other students for scholarship grant money.

Simon Hales
3 years ago

Re: “Paid Protestors”

Nearest thing I have ever come to this is being given Ben and Jerry’s ice cream vouchers for stewarding, not just attending, a “Solidarity for refugees and migrants” demo.

I must be missing out on an awful lot of cash, the amount of demos I have either attended or stewarded over the past few years 🙂

Tinkiegrrl
Tinkiegrrl
3 years ago

Hello! New here. Just found this blog via Rafional Wikki as I was researching the neo reactionary movement. That led me to the men’s rights movement, which led me here and I must say I’m glad to be here after reading all of that insanely scary stuff. Gotta hand it to Trump, he certainly sparked interest in learning about the enemy. Figured I should brush up on what the fuck I’m dealing with after several debates with Trump supporters went off into what I consider to be authoritarian lalaland.

THANK YOU for this post. These people are already gone. Long gone. I have zero desire to try and play nice with white supremacists and misogynists. Nice doesn’t work anyway. Once someone believes in something, they double down on it when faced with overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Trying to convince them of anything, even politely, will get you the same reaction you’d get for telling a deeply religious person that their god was make believe. Even something as simple and petty as the size of the inauguration crowd. There have been numerous articles beseaching liberals to play nice with these hateful mental midgets, and they’re disgustingly off the mark on what we are dealing with here.

Catalpa
Catalpa
3 years ago

Back when there were protests against Milo speaking at Berkley, my facebook feed was full of people (read: brocialists, mainly) wringing their hands about how we shouldn’t impinge on Free Speech, even if Milo is a dickhead.

And now that CPAC is stopping Milo from speaking there for his comments about pedophilia, I see none of the hand-wringing about how CPAC should let Milo speak regardless because Freeze Peach. Funny how that is.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@Tinkiegrrl

insanely scary stuff

these hateful mental midgets

these hateful mental midgets

Comments policy, give it a read. Thanks
And hiya, I’m Axe! I found the Mammoth thru RatWiki too. Welcome package on the right side, and don’t be a stranger 🙂

EJ (Marxist Jazz Weasel)

Hi Tinkiegrrl! Have a welcome package and make yourself at home. I’m the Other EJ.

As Axe mentioned, our comments policy asks people not to use casual references to mental illness. (It took me a little getting used to at first too.)

Tinkiegrrl
Tinkiegrrl
3 years ago

Sorry about that. I’m not quite sure how else to describe what’s going on, or the movement that is fueling the Trump presidency. It’s all just…. oh this is going to take some getting used to for sure. I get why it’s the policy though, and I’ll do my best.

I’ve seen increases in authoritarian bent comments throughout the web, especially after Obama became president, but I never imagined that it would grow large enough to elect a president. I had one friend in high school who started preaching about the freedom to oppress others, and how one doesn’t have freedom with it. He also backed the freedom of religions to force those around them into a theocracy of their religion demanded it. Of course, Islam was exempt. He justified it by saying Islam isn’t a real religion. I wound up having to ban him when he joined a local militia, and started playing with assault rifles. Before that, I liked to pick his brain to sorta see what the appeal was behind this thinking. My conclusion? Aside from bannable comments, I guess I’ll go with it being like a religion. A fundamentalist one, that allows for no dissent, and he defended it like it is. He’d post bogu stats on black on white crime, or false rape accusations, I’d counter with my sources and studies linked, and he’d claim that I was being offensive to his beliefs. There’s no being nice to that. Nice leant work when any and all dissent whatsoever is viewed as an insult. The journalists calling for nice are doing nothing but handing these people more justification to ignore the facts.

Tinkiegrrl
Tinkiegrrl
3 years ago

Meant to say one friend FROM high school. I’m not currently in high school. In my 30’s now. I post with my phone for the most part, so please forgive my typos.

Makroth - Agent of the Great Degeneracy
Makroth - Agent of the Great Degeneracy
3 years ago

@Tinkiegrrl

Some good adjectives to describe a lot of their rhetoric i think would be ”deplorable”, ”detestable”, ”disgusting” etc. Just words that start with ”D”

LindsayIrene
3 years ago

He’d post bogu stats on black on white crime, or false rape accusations, I’d counter with my sources and studies linked, and he’d claim that I was being offensive to his beliefs.

As the saying goes, “Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts.”

Jesalin
Jesalin
3 years ago

Hi Tinkiegrrl, nice to meet you!

Aside from bannable comments, I guess I’ll go with it being like a religion. A fundamentalist one, that allows for no dissent, and he defended it like it is.

If it walks like a cult, talks like a cult and acts like a cult, it’s probably a cult.

I’d counter with my sources and studies linked, and he’d claim that I was being offensive to his beliefs.

And yet, it is claimed that we are the ‘precious snowflakes’ who are always offended by everything. smh

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@Tinkie

It’s all just…. oh this is going to take some getting used to for sure

It becomes way easier over time. And the miracle of backspace has saved me on more than a few occasions in my early days 🙂

And seconding @Makroth, deplorable is a great word. Noun or adjective!

Lord Pabu
Lord Pabu
3 years ago

@Makroth

Words that begin with D? I wanna try. *cracks knuckles*

“Damnable”, “Despicable”, “Detrimental”, “Defiantly foolish”….okay, that last one was a reach, but I like this challenge. There’s some promise to this theme. 🙂

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

Dastardly, dickish, deleterious dumpsters of detritus

Rhuu
Rhuu
3 years ago

I like substituting ‘ridiculous’ or ‘unbelievable’ for ableist words when i’m talking. They match up pretty well for descriptions of just how extreme something/someone is.

Also the word ‘extreme’ is a good sub. U___U-b

Dratted, dogshit, drip.