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#ResistTrump today by calling about Sessions, DeVos, Russia, the Muslim ban

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Your mission today? More calls!

I know we’re all sick of making calls, but they make a difference. Republican members of congress are feeling besieged, and Democrats are standing up to Trump more directly because of pressure from their base. That is, from us.

There are a lot of things to call about. Here are a couple of ideas:

SAY NO TO JEFF SESSIONS

Is your Senator on the Judiciary Committee? Find out here. If so, call as early as you can to tell them to vote against Jeff Sessions for Attorney General — the committee is scheduled to vote on him this morning!

SAY NO TO BETSY DEVOS

Is your Senator on the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee? See here for a list of members. If your Senator is a Republican, tell them to vote against Betsy DeVos for Secretary of Education. She’s also up for committee vote this morning. If your Senator is a Dem, thank them for pledging to vote against her, as all Dems on the committee have done.

Also consider calling or Tweeting these Republicans, even if they’re not your Senators.

https://twitter.com/Diane_7A/status/826175944444542977

INVESTIGATE TRUMP’S RUSSIAN TIES

Congresswoman Maxine Waters has a plan:

Ask your congressperson to support her!

THE MUSLIM BAN

Check out 5calls,org for a handy script to use when calling about the Muslim ban, as well as ideas for other issues to call about.

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Weatherwax
Weatherwax
3 years ago

@Arctic Ape

And the furtherance of my knowledge continues. Thank you. How did I not know that those astoundingly yellow fields had swedes hiding underneath? (Because no one told me. But I think that’s because they didn’t know either.)

Keep the fascinating information coming, Mammotheers!

Jules
Jules
3 years ago

https://www.npca.org/articles/1462-house-moves-to-encourage-drilling-in-national-parks#sm.000096ye8o13gf0hq5v22mxr1mrh9

Because **** you, American people. Your land is OUR land. And there’s gold in them thar hills (for us—you’ll get free toxic sludge though).

Looking for some grim humor? Here is what I consider to be the Onion’s masterpiece:

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
3 years ago

Just to clarify, it’s not the same plants (same cultivars) producing oilseeds and fleshy roots. These are different cultivars representing highly differentiated growth forms within the same species.

The taproot of canola is about an inch thick at most, and the energy reserves in it are used to facilitate the growth of flower stalk. Swedes are harvested before they grow a flower stalk, because then the root would become very stringy and inedible. The seeds would be smaller than in canola and high in erucic acid.

dreemr
dreemr
3 years ago

Just want to add my encouragement, support, thanks, and empathy to everyone’s here.

For those of you in red states, don’t despair! I, too, am in a redder-than-red state, but I found when I started speaking up a little more on social media that there are a LOT more of us here than I thought. We were just all too intimidated to say much.

DO write, call, and otherwise contact your red state representatives – local, state, and federal. THEY STILL WORK FOR ALL OF US, not just the conservatives. Make your wishes and needs known. Make your community’s wishes and needs known!

I have encountered some of the most condescending, sexist garbage from my Congressman here, ugh. Now that I know what a tool he is, I tell everyone who will listen.

Women, even women in red states, have tended to be more supportive of what I’m saying, and more interested in listening/discussing civilly, so there’s that.

I have found that my own ideas and feelings about all this are becoming more refined and crystallized both through discussion and through reading and listening (here at WHTM for instance). Having even a small number of people support me has been very affirming and encouraging.

Only do what you’re able to do without driving yourself ragged! This is a marathon, not a sprint. TAKE THE TIME TO CARE FOR YOURSELF. David, that goes for you, too! I guarantee you we will hold your spot, and I ask you to internalize this message: every tiny bit of resistance helps, and you also have to be well to resist!

You’re doing GREAT! I’ve never seen something like this outside of the union strike lines in the 70s. I didn’t want to live through times like these, but since they’re here anyway, I will do what I can.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

Oh, it seems Michael Moore shares the Incel theory about why women voted for Trump:

The documentary filmaker said the reason that so many women voted for Mr. Trump over Mrs. Clinton could be blamed on the cliché that women prefer jerks over nice guys.

“One lament of the liberal, feminist, single guy is that women would rather date assholes,” Mr. Moore said. “I’d say, ‘Don’t say that. That’s not true.’ But every heterosexual guy has seen this since high school. Guys will say, ‘I’m nice. They don’t want nice.’ Listen, I don’t know the psychology of this, but men have been running the show for a few thousand years, and it’s not unusual throughout history for the oppressed to come to identify with their oppressor.”

ETA: @ dreemr – ooh that’s spooky cos I was just thinking of your post up thread when I posted this. *twilight zone music*

dreemr
dreemr
3 years ago

@Alan spooky!

I haven’t seen that interview with Michael Moore, but to me it reads like he’s talking about a kind of “Stockholm Syndrome” featuring internalized misogyny. I’m not sure that’s much better and YMMV but for what little it’s worth, I don’t think he’s saying that women actually secretly want to sleep with Drumpf.

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
3 years ago

Speaking of incels, SMBC today is about every incel-and-adjacent-ever

http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1485966981-20170201.png

Dalillama, Shepherd of Demonic Crocodiles
Dalillama, Shepherd of Demonic Crocodiles
3 years ago

@Arctic Ape

These are different cultivars representing highly differentiated growth forms within the same species.

In much the same way, broccoli, brussels sprouts, kale, kohlrabi, collard greens and cauliflower are, in fact, various forms of cabbage.

@Faerie Bard
Welcome in.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

But every heterosexual guy has seen this since high school.

Bullshit. What every heterosexual guy has seen since high school is the same thing anyone interested in a relationship with another human being has experienced: not everyone you want a relationship with will want one with you and when they do want one with someone else it hurts like hell so your brain labels that other person as a jerk because you don’t want to like them. But since men are taught they’ll get the girl if they’re “nice” enough, they blame everyone but themselves for their situation instead of being adults and accepting that not everyone they like will like them back.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ dreemr

He does seem to switch tack a bit half way through. Like he starts off ‘girls like assholes’ but arrives at ‘it’s yer classic false consciousness of the proletariat mate’.

ETA: not quite sure why I’m imagining Moore as a 1970s cockney there.

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
3 years ago

Steve Bannon Is Making Sure There’s No White House Paper Trail, Says Intel Source

The Trump administration’s chief strategist has already taken control of both policy and process on national security.

http://i.imgur.com/VNHIV1M.jpg

dreemr
dreemr
3 years ago

kupo makes a very good point.

Thinking about it more, it’s likely that Mr. Moore started out trying to say “chicks dig assholes” but realized it sounded quite awful for a Famous Liberal (TM), so tried to walk it back a bit, rather weakly.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

Every speech this abomination of a swiffer-in-chief makes sounds like a five-year-old trying to tell you about this new thing they learned but they don’t actually understand yet.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ddale8/status/826822342961745922

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
3 years ago

Dalillama:

In much the same way, broccoli, brussels sprouts, kale, kohlrabi, collard greens and cauliflower are, in fact, various forms of cabbage.

Indeed, the species Brassica oleracea is amazingly variable. BTW, can you use “cabbage” as collective English name for all these?

Also, isn’t kale same as collard greens?

Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
3 years ago

It was only white women who voted for Trump in any large numbers, so… do only white women prefer assholes? Or is it that white women the only women for whom their whole identity and every decision is centered on which man gets to touch their genitals, whereas women of colour are capable if making decisions based on such factors as knowledge, self-interest, or compassion? Or could be that some mysterious other, non which-man-gets-to-sex-me trait is shared among a group of white women that might have influenced them, and only them, to vote for a man who proposed a wall between the U.S. and Mexico, called Mexicans rapists, and promised a Muslim registry?

I guess we’ll never know.

LindsayIrene
3 years ago

@ kupo

Reading Donnie’s MLK Day speech made my brain cry.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Arctic Ape

BTW, can you use “cabbage” as collective English name for all these?

No, cabbage means the specific variety that looks like iceberg lettuce. It can refer to the green or purple variety, though. The only collective name I know for them is cruciferous vegetables.

isn’t kale same as collard greens?

No, those are different. Kale is tougher and has more of a cabbage-like flavor.

My favorite is the romanesco cauliflower, for its looks, not its flavor:

http://parade.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/romanesco-ftr.jpg

Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
3 years ago

My edit spun and spun and then didn’t appear, which I guess means I missed the edit window. I just wanted to express my curiosity as to which of Mr Moore’s m/f couple friends are together because the man is an asshole, and which are together because the woman was desperate and couldn’t do any better for herself.

Faerie Bard
Faerie Bard
3 years ago

AFAIK, kale and collard greens are not the same, but they are closely related. Collards are pretty popular down here where I live. Usually slow cooked with a ham hock or bacon, but you can use liquid smoke or smoked paprika or other spices for a similar flavor if you are vegetarian.

Middle Aged White Guy
3 years ago

@dreemr

DO write, call, and otherwise contact your red state representatives – local, state, and federal. THEY STILL WORK FOR ALL OF US, not just the conservatives.

Red state bastion for me, too. AZ, so in the thick of Immigration chit.

I’ve been figuring if I’m TOO anti-conservative, they’ll just ignore me as a lost cause, so I’ve been hammering them on Trump, telling them to defend Congressional Independence…. but not letting them know “I’d never vote for you anyway”.

Is that a good idea, or just go ahead and demand they move left?

By the way, Ruben Gallego, AZ District 7. Remember the name, real good guy.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
3 years ago

Thanks, Kupo and Faerie Bard.

Middle Aged White Guy
3 years ago

@Faerie Bard

A person doesn’t even have to go so far as any sort of recipe with the veggies, but this is the simplest, and in my opinion, best recipe.

1) Take any amount of any veg.
2) Add heat.

optional step 3) Sprinkle salt to taste.

dreemr
dreemr
3 years ago

@MAWG:

Well, I haven’t flown my liberal flag, exactly, but I haven’t hidden it, either. I’ve been respectful, and, hopefully, articulate. I’m not even sure they’re actually reading the things I send them, but I send them just the same. At the very least they take up a staffer’s time, and a drip drip drip from a hundred small liberal voices can still wear away at the establishment.

I’ve also found some success working more locally. I live in North Dakota, where the DAPL and Standing Rock crisis has been unfolding. As an example, there is a bill before our state House that will make it so that if you hit a pedestrian on a public road or highway, they and their family will not be able to sue, nor would it be a criminal offense – as long as it was an “accident”. The person sponsoring this bill has said straight up that it is in response to the protests going on in Standing Rock and is meant to punish and prevent protesting.

Of course I find this kind of sanctioned “accidental” murder horrific. But many of my conservative neighbors are of course on the side of the police – and when we engaged in discussion about this, they do have a valid point. That the resources for that town and area are being stretched beyond the limits, that the emergency and police services are fatigued, etc.

And I was able to convince a few that, okay, perhaps there do need to be some restrictions on protest – such as, not blocking emergency vehicles, etc. – but that this draconian bill proposed was WAY too extreme to be effective in any way, and also had far-reaching unintended consequences. Several people in our rural community run and bicycle along the side of the highways (our only paved roads). Just last year a woman, a beloved grandmother, was killed while riding her bicycle alongside the highway. I asked, do you think it’s right her killer should go completely unpunished because it was an accident? Is it right that her family is unable to sue the driver to get at least some recompense? Or if she’d been hospitalized instead of killed, should she not be able to recover some of the medical costs?

There’s also a bill proposing that first responders gain rights to collective bargaining. Being pro-union (I’m from the Rust Belt originally) I am stumping hard for this one, too. chip chip chipping away.

So anyway, long story long, I’ve had more success chipping away at local things like that. It’s a slow process, but I’m astounded I’ve even had as much success as this.

And I keep telling myself, every little bit helps, every little grain of sand we toss into the abyss eventually works to fill it in. Being polite and afraid to rock the boat no doubt was partially responsible for getting us to this state – I know that was my policy – and I’ve found that speaking up and speaking out isn’t as dangerous and scary as I’d feared. I’ve even found support that I wouldn’t have guessed what around.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
3 years ago

I fucking love broccoli.

Look, somebody mentioned brassicas and I’m hungry, sue me.

Middle Aged White Guy
3 years ago

@Dreemr

I’m getting “all circuits are busy now”, hope that’s a good sign.

I hear you on all that incredible BS…. some of them truly have sold their souls, eh?

I’m playing the long game. Probably move a few miles into Gallego’s District, and spend next two years doing what I can to get voter registration up.

Moggie
Moggie
3 years ago

LindsayIrene:

Reading Donnie’s MLK Day speech made my brain cry.

Why is he so goddam lazy? The Frederick Douglass bit! He just bluffs his way through everything, doesn’t he? You can imagine him, before the event, asking an aide for ideas:

Trump: Hey, I gotta do this Black History Month thing, apparently. Give me the names of some blacks who aren’t MLK.
Aide: Well, there was Rosa Parks-
T: Yeah, the bus lady, I can use that. Anyone else?
A: What about Harriet Tubman? She was enormously-
T: Right, right, the $20 bill lady.
A: Well, that’s… never mind. And there’s Frederick Douglass. Very important. Without Douglass, we wouldn’t-
T: Yeah, yeah, don’t really care who he is, I’ll just throw him in there, they’ll know anyway.

It’s so transparent, and so fucking insulting.

Middle Aged White Guy
3 years ago

fucking love broccoli.

I KNEW there was a reason you opposed Bush.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@SFHC

https://youtu.be/-mXIL_LKvvI
Choppin’ broccoli

eli
eli
3 years ago

Boycott Orange!

http://parade.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/purple-yam-ftr.jpg

I’m about to make West African ground nut soup with these guys. I’m hoping the color isn’t atrocious. Usually I’d use collards, but I don’t have any, but I do have some kale. So weird you guys are talking about this.

Tovius
Tovius
3 years ago

Speaking of broccoli: Tell me I’m not the only one who imagined being a dinosaur eating trees when eating broccoli as a kid.

Singerdog
Singerdog
3 years ago

gijoel , I clicked on the link fully expecting to see pics of trump eating babies!

Falconer
Falconer
3 years ago

And now Sean Spicer is just backing Trump up on Frederick Douglass.

I don’t know why I’m so shocked that this administration doesn’t know who Douglass is. I need to stop expecting them to know anything.

I think I might have to resort to emailing my representatives using the Senate and House web pages. 5calls wants me to call my Senators over and over on every issue and I just feel like I’d get chucked in the green-ink bin if I do that.

Falconer
Falconer
3 years ago

@Singerdog, me too. Spent too much time on Sadly, No! during the Bush years, I guess. They loved them this pic they’d shopped up of Pammy Atlas devouring a puppy.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ tovius

I still make mashed potato islands in an ocean of gravy and chomp the broccoli trees whilst roaring. I’d like to think everyone does that, but judging from some of the looks I get in restaurants it’s just me (bet everyone else secretly wants to though)

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ moggie

That’s very funny. Unfortunately it’s also completely plausible. I’m just amazed he didn’t give an inspirational tale of a young black man who escaped the mean streets of West Philadelphia and ended up living in a bell air mansion.

dreemr
dreemr
3 years ago

@Middle Aged White Guy:

Since you’re in AZ, you might try letting Senator McCain know you would like him to vote against Betsy DeVos’ confirmation as Secretary of Education. 2 other Republican moderates have changed their vote and we only need one more Republican to cross the line to stop her.

Betsy DeVos is a bona fide disaster when it comes to education. An uber-wealthy fundamentalist Christian who loves to steal money from public schools in order to fund charter schools – private Christian charter schools.

McCain has been identified as a Republican who might be swayed on this, so maybe give his office a call and let him know?

dreemr
dreemr
3 years ago

From an article on Vox

‘When senators described the response to DeVos’s nomination at a committee vote Tuesday, they didn’t mince words. “Bombarded,” said Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC). “Avalanche,” said Connecticut’s Murphy. “Inundated,” said Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA). “My wife gets calls,” said Richard Burr (R-NC). “My son gets calls on cellphones to deliver a message to me.”

So Democrats from even Trump-friendly states lined up against DeVos, including West Virginia’s Joe Manchin, who supports other Trump nominees, and North Dakota’s Heidi Heitkamp. ‘

So our calls and letters ARE working. Take heart.

Link to original Vox article.

PaganReader
3 years ago

I’m trying on Toomey. Two numbers are busy, the other has a full voicemail. I’ll call the two busy numbers again in a minute.

Faerie Bard
Faerie Bard
3 years ago

Ugh, yeah like he couldn’t even be assed to take a few minutes to look Frederick Douglass up on Google, let alone read a book now and then. I feel brain cells melting away. I give him an F- for his lack of effort.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
3 years ago

Well, we can safely say that Trump doesn’t watch Epic Rap Battles.

Middle Aged White Guy
3 years ago

@dreemer

Since you’re in AZ, you might try letting Senator McCain know you would like him to vote against Betsy DeVos’ confirmation

Did that literally first thing after seeing it was 50/50. LOL, have McCain and Flake on speed dial, cause I think I’m gonna be needing it.

Saw a new play about Malcom X today… wonderful line in it. Can’t remember the exact wording, but it was “Love, AMBITIOUSLY.”