With a self-professed “pussy grabber” now living in the White House, you’d think the reactionary douchebags at reactionary douchebag central, Return of Kings, would be feeling pretty chuffed.
Not so much. While Trump signs anti-abortion executive orders and talks about gutting the Violence Against Women Act, the fellas at RoK are worried that feminists are coming for their balls. Chemically speaking, that is.
In a recent post, regular RoK contributor Corey Savage takes a wildly paranoid look at what he calls “10 Feminist Fantasies That Could Become A Reality In The Near Future.”
Ignoring standard feminist fantasies like, let’s say, “getting through a day without some dude on the internet threatening to rape you because you won’t agree that rape culture is a myth” or “setting aside a weekend to binge-watch the 4th season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer for the third time,” Savage decides to treat us to what seems to be a trip through his weirdest fears, some of which might actually be repressed desires.
So what is Savage worried about? Everything from polyandry to “consent forms” for sex. And did I mention chemical castration?
Here are some of the highlights from his list.
Helping women will become a hate crime:
After complaining about a UK law that supposedly bans men from trying to pick up women in public (it doesn’t, actually), Savage warns his readers, based on absolutely nothing, that such laws
might spread to the rest of the West and expand to include other misogynist offenses including: looking at a woman (what feminists call “stare rape”), calling a trans-woman a he (there’s already a similar law in New York), arguing with women online, manspreading, mansplaining, helping a woman, and so on.
Government-Sponsored Feminist Tribunals
It might be a little tough to convict men of such offenses as manspreading or aggravated woman-helping in a regular court. Savage concludes that the government will therefore set up a whole new court system just to screw over men, a system of feminist “tribunals similar to the kangaroo courts in universities and HR departments at workplaces, all in the name of creating a harmonious society free of hate.”
Non-contact Sex
Consider that we already live in a world where walking past some deranged woman will get you accused of sexual assault. In the future, all physical contact with women may become sternly discouraged or even forbidden that more men will retreat to porn and sexbots as alternatives.
I’m pretty sure that quite a few men (and plenty of non-men as well) already use porn and a wide assortment of sex toys. Also phone sex, sexting, their own vivid imaginations, and so on and so on. “Non-contact sex” has been around as long as “contact sex.”
Bachelor taxes:
An old Men’s Rights favorite boogeyman!
With the drop in number of men who are [marrying] that coincides with the rising number of single mothers who need to leech the welfare state, it’s not too unreasonable to expect a push for bachelor tax that will penalize men who refuse to put a ring on an aging, post-slut sow.
Castration:
Well, “castration” of a chemical kind.
[D]ocile and compliant dogs are the ideal that feminists aim for in their efforts to domesticate men.… If all men are violent hooligans and rapists as some feminists claim, then the next logical step is to let the government control men’s testosterone levels to an “acceptable” level.
And then we come to the camps, and not the fun kind.
Feminist Re-Education Camps:
[I]t won’t be long before men who have been found guilty of misogynist hate crimes to end up in re-education camps. We already have sensitivity training in jobs while colleges are adding courses on toxic masculinity to re-define what it is to be a man on feminist terms. It probably won’t be long before “toxic masculinity” is added to DSM as a mental disorder (in place of homosexuality) and treated like a disease in mental health institutions.
I have to admit that I’m pretty impressed with the way he slipped a little gratuitous homophobia into that last sentence.
Now, if men resist all these evil feminist initiatives, Savage warns, they may well find themselves in even worse kinds of camps. Namely, concentration Camps
No man, no problem! If you’re wondering how feminists could even achieve this, know that there is already an army of goons called the police who will gladly do as they’re told to maintain the gynocentric order.
It’s hard not to wonder if Savage and his Manospherean pals actually live in the same reality as the rest of us.
Here for example, is a piciture of Donald Trump signing an executive order imposing a “global gag rule” that will cut off funding to international organizations that evenso much as mention abortion.
I’m having a little trouble finding the “gynocentric order” in this picture.
@kupo
You’ve done nothing wrong, and the logical response is to just unfriend the non-friend and let him not talk about politics in his own space to his heart’s content.
I used to be on Livejournal (yes, I was) and it never ceased to shock me when someone would go onto someone else’s journal and tell them what to talk about/not talk about. Facebook works in a not-dissimilar way – your Facebook is your space, and it’s beyond rude for someone to come into your space and lecture to you about how you are using it.
You’re using your space correctly, and your non-friend was out of line. You would be within your rights to laugh in his face, tell him not to let the logoff screen hit him on the ass on his way out, and defriend him immediately after.
@kupo
You’re not in the wrong, it’d be best to unfriend a person who does not respect your boundaries.
@David, that must have been after I fell face-first down the Tumblr hole.
@kupo, I am going to nth what others have said. You did nothing wrong. An unfriending is in order.
@Kupo: They got mad over that? It’s not even inflammatory! And using cancer as part of their argument is both a massive overreaction and inconsiderate on their part. Unfriend their ass, or even block them.
@P.O.C.:
It happens to me plenty on Facebook and what makes it more frustrating is that the people complaining don’t even read the post. Sometimes they’ll see just one word and flip the fuck out, or start a seemingly casual conversation before making absurd claims that prove they only haphazardly skimmed what you said and projected whatever they wanted onto the rest.
Someone defriended me recently because…I said I didn’t like Luke Cage’s superhero name, “Powerman.” Why? Racism, apparently. Nevermind that I said I liked the character otherwise. I had to block someone else one time because, after going on tirade after tirade about what I was posting (it was in relation to Islamophobia) – he demanded we set forth rules on what I post and what we talked about, wherein I defriended him. He then decided to try stalking me through other friends’ posts or messaging them about me. He barely interacted with them before, but now he was showing up whenever they posted and one told me he contacted him through the instant messenger function. It was really creepy…
I really hate social media but, at the same time, it’s something that’s hard to quit entirely – especially when you connect with so many people that way and don’t want to sever that.
@Dalillama, that was you, and I went out and bought the darn thing. Thank you for reminding me! Memetic research is fascinating stuff – sadly it’s suffering some of the problems that Evolutionary Psychology is suffering, along the same axis. S’what you get for being attached to Richard Dawkins, Memetics!
@kupo, <3
You didn't deserve that treatment, and that other person is terribly, awfully insensitive. What a shameful thing they've done. Whether you unfriend them or not, I support your resolution to the problem, whatever it might be. There's no wrong answer to the issue.
Also, good on you for sharing with them! It's important to do it. It's gonna make people uncomfortable, but that's sort of the point. Make them uncomfortable, make them question. You did good.
@NickNameNick, the simple fact that you're questioning whether you're as good a person as you could be is ample evidence that yes, you’re far better. Shedding the defensive impulse is so crucial in being good, and it sounds like you’re aware of that.
Also, I got your steam invite! I think that was you at least 😮
@wwth, I agree! I have to occasionally remind myself that there is no bright dividing line between that the MRA’s believe and what society at large believes – the MRA’s are just more loud and explicit about it.
(Or, more accurately, I don’t remind myself, but life finds a way to remind me.)
@Brony, ooof, that’s a complex topic, and well outside of my proverbial wheelhouse. I’m of the opinion that small differences like that are largely environmental factors, but that’s just sort of a gut instinct – I don’t have any papers behind it. I do know that women and men (and boys and girls) express social dominance behaviours differently, with men/boys more prone to overt physical displays while women/girls express them through social behaviour (Largely, I imagine, because society frowns on physical displays from girls so heavily).
I don’t have a whole lot of experience digging through that literature – I mean, I could talk about it from a functional level I guess, but that seems pretty basic and I’m sure the ideas wouldn’t be new to you.
@everyone
Thanks, I just needed to vent. It was really upsetting to me, especially coming from him because he’s part of a marginalized group though he does have white male privilege blinding him. I don’t think I’ll unfriend him, but it really is a good example of a) why I usually just delete negative posts rather than trying to engage, and b) how women aren’t allowed to get even a little bit uppity.
@Scildfreja Unnýðnes:
Don’t worry, it was me. 🙂
This world needs more uppity women, and needs to support those it does have.
Thank you for being one.
I understand. I don’t think it’s an accident that he’s concerned about you hurting the feelings of others, but didn’t think twice about brutally hurting yours.
Women. Enjoy. Sex. Too.
WHY ARE SO MANY MEN INCAPABLE OF WRAPPING THEIR HEADS AROUND THIS CONCEPT
@ hashtag ravenclaw
Possible selection bias in the survey?:
“Every random woman walking past that I’ve propositioned for sex has said ‘”No!” So I guess they don’t like it.”
“No woman I’ve ever had sex with has enjoyed it. Must be them.”
Etc.
“Also, the women in the porn I watch don’t seem happy.”
@Moggie
I feel you are attributing a level of attention and empathy to them that there is no actual evidence for.
@Hashtag Ravenclaw
He’s heard this tale.
He’s also heard of dragons — but has yet to see one.
So until he has proof that even one woman likes sex, he’ll have to stick to his original theory.
Oh God, i never thought i would agree with that dirtbag RooshV.
I need to take a shower, again.
Women like sex.
Just not with these dirtbags.
And since we won’t lower our standards to fuck them, then that must mean we just plain don’t like sex, since we won’t take it from anyone who offers!
That’s like saying children don’t like candy because they won’t (and shouldn’t) accept it from strangers.
Or that people don’t like money because most people won’t accept money from someone who claims to have counterfeited it.
Or that dogs don’t like treats because they won’t take a treat from someone they don’t like.
Bina said
And Joaquin said
Interesting, Joaquin. And do you have a followup report for us yet on your law professor and the Swedish ELEVATORS ?!!?