Whether the hooker allegations are true or not, the most disturbing thing about it, to me, is that they’re believable.
JennyWren
7 years ago
Every major news source has said openly and loudly, “this report isn’t corroborated yet and does contain errors”, so for now I’d treat the waterplay allegations like #snoutrage: darkly comical, but probably not true.
I think it’s much more important to focus on how much Drumpf is in Putin’s pocket, and also on the Sessions hearing today.
Skiriki
7 years ago
I’m not drunk enough to deal with this right now.
Problem: if I start drinking, it will lead into peeing, and right now I’m sort of suspicious of doing that because…
*furious handwaving*
Well this.
(Yes this is a joke.)
Heather
7 years ago
Remind me, when did we start caring again about whether or not shit (or in this case, piss) was true?
Matchstick
7 years ago
Maybe what this does is persuade the news media to properly shine a light on Trumps and his upcoming administration’s cosy relationship with Putin and his inner circle.
Irrespective of whether or not the more lurid parts of the allegations are true the real dangers comes from Trump and Putin sharing a common authoritarian mindset.
Nequam
7 years ago
“The Micturian Candidate”.
Great nickname, or GREATEST nickname? (I wish I could take credit for it but I read it on another forum, and that person didn’t give the source.)
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
7 years ago
I wish the media cared about him raping children or promising to give Ukraine to Putin even half as much as they care about this. Oh well, I should stop grouching and take what I can get, I suppose.
I have no idea if the piss stuff is true, and I don’t really care, but the report talked in detail about collaboration between Trump’s people and the Russian government during the campaign. We need an independent investigation to see if there was collaboration and/or if Russia was blackmailing him.
Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
7 years ago
So I saw this tweet (please let this embed even though that never works for me XD)
And it’s just the funniest thing. “Free press? What kind of fascist totalitarian bullshit is this?” No, this isn’t Nazi Germany, Trump. If it was, the press wouldn’t be criticizing the soon-to-be leader of the country.
Also, it may not be Nazi Germany, but a lot of your most fervent supporters wish it was. Actual nazis think you’re the bee’s knees.
Nequam
7 years ago
@David: Oh, of course! But for some of us the piss stuff is the first real laugh (as opposed to a mirthless chuckle while twitching) we’ve had this year…
LindsayIrene
7 years ago
Donnie’s Twitter shitfit is making me think that there may be some truth to the allegations.
taiki
7 years ago
So when I read the report, I saw that it was claimed that Russia was using party insiders to disrupt the Democratic Party.
I live in Nevada, and the whole NVDems convention was a huge puzzler for me. I couldn’t understand why the Bernie folks would put up such a fight to gain so little ground.
Now I’m stuck in the land of conspiracy theory and conjecture. And wow does it suck out here.
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
7 years ago
All I’m hoping is that the press conference he’s supposed to give today is about actual things and not whether he paid someone to pee on a bed Obama slept in once, or whatever it was.
Fishy Goat
7 years ago
@SFHC No shit. :/
AltoFronto
7 years ago
PM on BBC Radio 4 right now is talking about his potential conflicts of interests with Russia, and his businesses.
He’s saying he’d be able to run his business and the country at the same time, “but I don’t wanna do that”. So maybe he’s finally come to the realisation that he can’t be president of the US and his company simultaneously, and is edging his position to that of “I totally could, so I was never wrong, but I just don’t want to”, and then he can deny everything later.
Lol, they’re saying that these allegations are lurid even for Trump and his history.
Apparently, the report is based on more than one tape – from St Petersburg and Moscow, which makes Intelligence agencies think it’s credible.
It still sounds almost too news-worthy to be true, but with Drumpf, it’s just as likely to be true.
Weatherwax
7 years ago
I’m listening to excerpts from the press conference on the radio right now. I have no earthly clue what the man is talking about.
Also, apparently in every country other than the US, hotel rooms come equipped with tiny cameras that will broadcast on the television news all of your bedroom antics. “I say this to people all the time.”
I’m just… *waves hands in the air and goes to make a cup of tea*
Moggie
7 years ago
I don’t believe the report. The errors (such as misspellng “Alfa” as “Alpha”: FFS, the possible evidence of suspicious activity between Trump and Alfa Bank was all over the news in October) suggest that the PI is sloppy and may have exaggerated their level of access. I suspect they were played.
That’s not to say that Russia hasn’t compromised Trump: it wouldn’t be surprising if they’ve tried, and they would have almost unlimited resources for such a high-value target. But I’m worried that this probably bogus scandal will be used to discredit any later and more credible revelations.
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
7 years ago
To apologise for my sour-grapesing, which is totally a word, here’s a header image for the next thread:
The Bloviator-in-Chief is spouting blather and then denying it faster than the fact-checkers can check it, and half the country unflinchingly believes it, even to the degree of saying that a fucking VIDEO of it “is just the lying media”….
Nequam, oh, I’ve been making pee jokes since this came out!
Anyone watch the press conference? It was surreal, disturbing, and completely ridiculous.
Conan the Librarian
7 years ago
Although the pissplay stuff is comic and sensationalistic, it may well not be true, or even if it is true, I’ve a hard time believing that Putin could actually be blackmailing Trump with that considering what’s already come out.
On the other hand, consider that Trump has refused to release his tax returns and has refused to put his business holdings in a blind trust. Who does he owe money to? We know only some of the answers to that question. Does he owe money to the Russian oligarchs/mafia?
If the Russians have a hold over Trump, it is almost certainly financial.
Victorious Parasol
7 years ago
The whole golden shower thing gave me some amusement last night, but … yeah. The press conference was surreal. It reminded me of when my late father had started slipping into dementia.
opposablethumbs
7 years ago
To paraphrase a btl commenter over at The Grauniad –
UK: Our former Prime Minister once stuck his dick in a pig’s head. Top that, US!
US: Hold my beer.
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
7 years ago
If only these revelations were in email form…
@taiki
I couldn’t understand why the Bernie folks would put up such a fight to gain so little ground
Entitlement. And delusions of revolutionary grandeur. No conspiracy necessary
Also, are you new? If so, hiya, I’m Axe! Welcome package on the right 🙂
We Hunted The Mammoth
Whether the hooker allegations are true or not, the most disturbing thing about it, to me, is that they’re believable.
Every major news source has said openly and loudly, “this report isn’t corroborated yet and does contain errors”, so for now I’d treat the waterplay allegations like #snoutrage: darkly comical, but probably not true.
I think it’s much more important to focus on how much Drumpf is in Putin’s pocket, and also on the Sessions hearing today.
I’m not drunk enough to deal with this right now.
Problem: if I start drinking, it will lead into peeing, and right now I’m sort of suspicious of doing that because…
*furious handwaving*
Well this.
(Yes this is a joke.)
Remind me, when did we start caring again about whether or not shit (or in this case, piss) was true?
Maybe what this does is persuade the news media to properly shine a light on Trumps and his upcoming administration’s cosy relationship with Putin and his inner circle.
Irrespective of whether or not the more lurid parts of the allegations are true the real dangers comes from Trump and Putin sharing a common authoritarian mindset.
“The Micturian Candidate”.
Great nickname, or GREATEST nickname? (I wish I could take credit for it but I read it on another forum, and that person didn’t give the source.)
I wish the media cared about him raping children or promising to give Ukraine to Putin even half as much as they care about this. Oh well, I should stop grouching and take what I can get, I suppose.
It’s probably not true… Believable, but not true.
http://www.snopes.com/u-s-trump-intelligence-russia/
I have no idea if the piss stuff is true, and I don’t really care, but the report talked in detail about collaboration between Trump’s people and the Russian government during the campaign. We need an independent investigation to see if there was collaboration and/or if Russia was blackmailing him.
So I saw this tweet (please let this embed even though that never works for me XD)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/819164172781060096
And it’s just the funniest thing. “Free press? What kind of fascist totalitarian bullshit is this?” No, this isn’t Nazi Germany, Trump. If it was, the press wouldn’t be criticizing the soon-to-be leader of the country.
Also, it may not be Nazi Germany, but a lot of your most fervent supporters wish it was. Actual nazis think you’re the bee’s knees.
@David: Oh, of course! But for some of us the piss stuff is the first real laugh (as opposed to a mirthless chuckle while twitching) we’ve had this year…
Donnie’s Twitter shitfit is making me think that there may be some truth to the allegations.
So when I read the report, I saw that it was claimed that Russia was using party insiders to disrupt the Democratic Party.
I live in Nevada, and the whole NVDems convention was a huge puzzler for me. I couldn’t understand why the Bernie folks would put up such a fight to gain so little ground.
Now I’m stuck in the land of conspiracy theory and conjecture. And wow does it suck out here.
All I’m hoping is that the press conference he’s supposed to give today is about actual things and not whether he paid someone to pee on a bed Obama slept in once, or whatever it was.
@SFHC No shit. :/
PM on BBC Radio 4 right now is talking about his potential conflicts of interests with Russia, and his businesses.
He’s saying he’d be able to run his business and the country at the same time, “but I don’t wanna do that”. So maybe he’s finally come to the realisation that he can’t be president of the US and his company simultaneously, and is edging his position to that of “I totally could, so I was never wrong, but I just don’t want to”, and then he can deny everything later.
Lol, they’re saying that these allegations are lurid even for Trump and his history.
Apparently, the report is based on more than one tape – from St Petersburg and Moscow, which makes Intelligence agencies think it’s credible.
It still sounds almost too news-worthy to be true, but with Drumpf, it’s just as likely to be true.
I’m listening to excerpts from the press conference on the radio right now. I have no earthly clue what the man is talking about.
Also, apparently in every country other than the US, hotel rooms come equipped with tiny cameras that will broadcast on the television news all of your bedroom antics. “I say this to people all the time.”
I’m just… *waves hands in the air and goes to make a cup of tea*
I don’t believe the report. The errors (such as misspellng “Alfa” as “Alpha”: FFS, the possible evidence of suspicious activity between Trump and Alfa Bank was all over the news in October) suggest that the PI is sloppy and may have exaggerated their level of access. I suspect they were played.
That’s not to say that Russia hasn’t compromised Trump: it wouldn’t be surprising if they’ve tried, and they would have almost unlimited resources for such a high-value target. But I’m worried that this probably bogus scandal will be used to discredit any later and more credible revelations.
To apologise for my sour-grapesing, which is totally a word, here’s a header image for the next thread:
http://i.imgur.com/hfgH50d.jpg
I will not, however, be apologising for the terrible pun.
This is more troubling to me than the “piss”ing contest OR the Russian Connection
Donald Trump is ‘gaslighting’ all of us
The Bloviator-in-Chief is spouting blather and then denying it faster than the fact-checkers can check it, and half the country unflinchingly believes it, even to the degree of saying that a fucking VIDEO of it “is just the lying media”….
We in a world of hurt….
Nequam, oh, I’ve been making pee jokes since this came out!
Anyone watch the press conference? It was surreal, disturbing, and completely ridiculous.
Although the pissplay stuff is comic and sensationalistic, it may well not be true, or even if it is true, I’ve a hard time believing that Putin could actually be blackmailing Trump with that considering what’s already come out.
On the other hand, consider that Trump has refused to release his tax returns and has refused to put his business holdings in a blind trust. Who does he owe money to? We know only some of the answers to that question. Does he owe money to the Russian oligarchs/mafia?
If the Russians have a hold over Trump, it is almost certainly financial.
The whole golden shower thing gave me some amusement last night, but … yeah. The press conference was surreal. It reminded me of when my late father had started slipping into dementia.
To paraphrase a btl commenter over at The Grauniad –
UK: Our former Prime Minister once stuck his dick in a pig’s head. Top that, US!
US: Hold my beer.
If only these revelations were in email form…
@taiki
Entitlement. And delusions of revolutionary grandeur. No conspiracy necessary
Also, are you new? If so, hiya, I’m Axe! Welcome package on the right 🙂