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#ResistTrump today by reading the declassified intelligence report on Russian hacking

Trump’s Russian handler

Popular-vote-loser Donald Trump got his official briefing on Russia’s hacking of the election. In what we can only assume was an attempt to counteract Trump’s brilliant plan to flat-out lie about what was in this briefing, the US intelligence agencies released the declassified version of the report yesterday as well.

You should download it (direct link) from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and read it, if for no other reason than to see how blatantly Trump has already lied about its contents. (If you’d like to avoid going to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence site you can download the PDF from The Minneapolis Star-Tribune here.)

The report is actually quite short; especially if you ignore the appendix about Russia’s propaganda outlet RT, which is definitely worth reading on its own though not quite as essential.

If you don’t feel like dealing with a PDF at the moment, the Washington Post has a handy guide to the important bits in the report.

Tomorrow we start in on Trump’s cabinet nominees and their ethical failings, in preparation for a week of CALLING SENATORS.

If you’d like to get started early, take a look at this CNN/Money article: “Trump national security pick Monica Crowley plagiarized multiple sources in 2012 book.” The title is fairly self-explanatory. She plagiarized A LOT.

See more Resist Trump Today posts here.

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PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Proudfootz,

Incorrect. I’ve been here for a while.

Something you would have no clue about, since you’ve not seemed to have actually read any comments before, let alone any other articles here.

I’m so glad you have reassured her that the social consequences for ‘going against the grain’ won’t be visited on Scildfreda.

Me, I’m used to be treated as shit by trolls.

Eli is a regular poster in this community. You are not.

Something you would have no clue about, since you’ve not seemed to have actually read any comments before, let alone any other articles here.

I didn’t look you up, BTW. It was a throwaway joke, but your reaction is very curious.

eli
eli
7 years ago

I didn’t look you up, BTW. It was a throwaway joke, but your reaction is very curious.

Gets them every time.

proudfootz
7 years ago

eli

January 12, 2017 at 9:41 pm

WOW….

proudfootz, please step away from the computer….NOW!

I’m not stopping you.

This will not end well.

Should I be scared?

you just accused me of threatening Scildfreja AND demonstrated that you do not know what the definition of the word ‘dogwhistle’ is.

Did I?

The ‘threat’ of scapegoating is ever present in social dynamics. I didn’t ever write or imply that you personally IMed Scildfreja and told her what you would do if she transgressed the norms many posters here have used as excuses for attacks on me. It’s understood.

Why don’t you ‘splain why an in-group term cannot be used as a ‘dogwhistle’? This should be good!

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eli
eli
7 years ago

@proudfootz

You believe what you need to believe. I have nothing to explain.

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proudfootz
7 years ago

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic

January 12, 2017 at 9:42 pm

Proudfootz,

Incorrect. I’ve been here for a while.

I’ve been here a little while, too. Reading, lurking, and on occasion commenting.

So perhaps both our assumptions were wrong. Maybe you’ve been here as long as I have. So what? Are we in competition for a Good Attendance Award?

Something you would have no clue about, since you’ve not seemed to have actually read any comments before, let alone any other articles here.

Since you’re wrong, there’s really no need for me to add to your fail based on a false premise. Is there?

“I’m so glad you have reassured her that the social consequences for ‘going against the grain’ won’t be visited on Scildfreda.

Me, I’m used to be treated as shit by trolls.”

Eli is a regular poster in this community. You are not.

Something you would have no clue about, since you’ve not seemed to have actually read any comments before, let alone any other articles here.

Again, wrong on the facts, wrong on your conclusion.

In your career, you may get used to hearing that if you continue to assume facts not in evidence merely because they fit your prejudices.

I didn’t look you up, BTW. It was a throwaway joke, but your reaction is very curious.

Is it curious when it’s demonstrated that people with whom I find myself in disagreement Google me in efforts to find some sort of irrelevant material to ‘discredit’ me?

Guess who’s bringing up 9/11 in this thread? (hint – it wasn’t me)

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Does Proudfootz think Scildfreja was defending him?

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eli
eli
7 years ago

@weirwoodtreehugger

yes, adorable!

[insert cute baby goat gif here instead of last comment!]

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Gets them every time.

Apparently! I wonder why stalking and doxxing are the first things to cross his mind?

Most peculiar.

proudfootz
7 years ago

eli

January 12, 2017 at 9:57 pm

@proudfootz

You believe what you need to believe. I have nothing to explain.

After this:

This will not end well.

I expected a bit more than your showing me a clean pair of heels.

proudfootz
7 years ago

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

January 12, 2017 at 9:58 pm

Does Proudfootz think Scildfreja was defending him?

No.

Not sure why you jump to this conclusion – but it is of a piece of you general incomprehension regarding what is written in plain English.

eli's got a clean pair of heels
eli's got a clean pair of heels
7 years ago

I may have a new nym, once I get out of moderation. Thanks Proudfootz.

proudfootz
7 years ago

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic

January 12, 2017 at 10:02 pm

“Gets them every time.”

Apparently! I wonder why stalking and doxxing are the first things to cross his mind?

Most peculiar.

Having been stalked before, and good reason to not want to be doxxed, I have my reasons.

Not that you give a shit about stalking and doxxing, apparently.

Because it would be so peculiar to want to avoid such things.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
7 years ago

@footz
I’ll deal with the stuff about me, cos that’s all I can speak to

it is odd how the discussion went from ‘Putin/Assange conspiracy claims’ to ‘many Trump voters were racists’

No it’s not, that’s how conversation works. You said that the Dems should learn from their mistakes by making class a bigger part of their platform. I stated that wasn’t necessary as class had very little to do with this election. I also pointed out an alternate route for them to go in. Namely race (and indeed gender). Nothing odd about that

I might not have been quick enough on my feet to properly address the change to a completely unrelated topic

My fault surely…

Axe could have saved us all some of this drama by linking to the polling where the ‘EXISTENCE of brown people’ was among the questions asked of voters in the recent election, or anything about ‘fascism’

No such polling exists. Of course it doesn’t. That’s not how anything works. Nobody says ‘I am a racist’, they just say racist shit. Nobody says ‘I am a fascist’, they just say fascist shit. I get that you’re being facetious (everything you’ve said has been facetious since, like, your 4 comment in this thread), but you’re really proving Scildfreja’s point about your lack of scepticism here

But Axe was being reductive in an attempt to discredit my previous comment

I was being reductive in order to better express myself. That you took it as an attack is kinda the whole problem. As the rest of us discussed, pointing out racism needn’t be an accusation. Why is it for you?

I should have resisted the urge to return hostility with hostility

And here again. Who was I being hostile to? Not rhetorical. You responded to that comment by saying I was in a bubble (hostility), but what in my post was hostile to you? I reread it and couldn’t find what set you off. I’d quite like to know what it was

my treating Axe with the same tone as Axe used with me

Once more, I see. Yes, my tone was less than polite. But why do you think I was using that tone against you? I didn’t even mention you. I mentioned Trump voters, the vast majority of whom are white. Did you vote for Trump? If not, how was my tone offesive to you? Again, not rhetorical

If it’s shitty, it’s shitty no matter who does it

I agree. And if I did what you imply I did, I’d apologize. I’m actually really good at apologies. I get plenty of practice from all the times I stick my foot in my mouth around here. I’m just not seeing the equivalence between my being reductive in my description of the actions of ~63m deplorable people and you accusing me of being bubbled and then flipping out when called on it

A final note re: Scildfreja
She is one of the best human beings I’ve ever had the pleasure of being schooled by. Her being civil to those who’d attack this community, her community, is not risky behavior. It’s not something she should worry about being ostracized for. Scildfreja Unnydnes lives up to her nym with every post, and I’d want it no other way. Besides, I’m enough of a jerk to cancel out 100 of her polite dissections. Balance is maintained. Bottom line, you mess with Scildfreja, you mess with the herd
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eli
eli
7 years ago

I don’t like the new block form I got with my new nym that’s under moderation. I like this one I have now. I guess I’ll have to get one of those fancy things the rest of you have now.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

I’ve been here a little while, too. Reading, lurking, and on occasion commenting.

So perhaps both our assumptions were wrong. Maybe you’ve been here as long as I have. So what? Are we in competition for a Good Attendance Award?

Have you? I have not read comment by you prior to this article.

And were that true, you would know what the community is like and not go out of your way to be as abrasive as possible.

Since you’re wrong, there’s really no need for me to add to your fail based on a false premise. Is there?

Oh…I don’t think I am “wrong”, though.

Again, wrong on the facts, wrong on your conclusion.

In your career, you may get used to hearing that if you continue to assume facts not in evidence merely because they fit your prejudices.

How am I wrong? Eli is a regular poster. You are not.

And what are my prejudices? Be specific.

Is it curious when it’s demonstrated that people with whom I find myself in disagreement Google me in efforts to find some sort of irrelevant material to ‘discredit’ me?

It is curious that your first reaction to a throwaway joke is to call me a stalker and suggest my next move would be to dox you, while refusing to answer a direct question, yes. I neither agreed nor disagreed with you up until that point.

You are the one assuming facts not in evidence.

Guess who’s bringing up 9/11 in this thread? (hint – it wasn’t me)

I didn’t either; your point?

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Having been stalked before, and good reason to not want to be doxxed, I have my reasons.

Not that you give a shit about stalking and doxxing, apparently.

Because it would be so peculiar to want to avoid such things.

I have been doxxed before, as well; it sucks, doesn’t it?

Again, you assume things about other people, (“not that you give a shit […]”) while pearl clutching when you feel someone has done it to you.

eli
eli
7 years ago

You know, I recognize this name and avatar from Pharangula, so I googled [ahem, this is not doxxing or stalking, btw]

proudfootz is not a stranger to the treatment they are getting here.

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
7 years ago

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eesh

That’s what I get for not checking the forum this evening!

I will respond more fully in a bit, but I wanted to say two things. First, in general. You’ve elided a number of the statements I was making in my last post to you. Let me help. The most important part of my last post was in the beginning, my request. Stop being defensive. Let me give you an analogy.

Have you ever been in the cold? I mean real cold – the sort of cold where your eyelids freeze shut because the condensation from your eyes freezes your eyelashes together. Your muscles clench and you hold your breath in, and everything is tight. And it’s horrible. In this situation, to feel more comfortable you forcibly relax yourself. It lets blood flow more easily through you, and it lowers your adrenaline. Let the cold pass into you, and through you, and it will disappear.

This is what you need to do in this situation. Unclench, breath in a deep cold breath, and accept. I don’t mean that you need to agree with everything we’ve said, but this will go nowhere if you can’t put yourself at ease in the cold.

Second thing I wanted to say. I’m not at all afraid of anyone here turning on me, or being ostracized, or anything like that. They won’t do that, they reserve that for people who are hostile to them and theirs. I’m not like that. I don’t meet hostility with hostility. I measure out my hostility when and where I decide to. I am Scildfreja, Free-From-Anger. It’s a quality worth pursuing, in my opinion, though it has its problems.

And, for reference – I am an atheist, as are many of the people you have been arguing with. Being an atheist can get you a lot of social stigma in many places of the world, but the Internet is certainly not one of them. Frankly, the opposite is true on the Internet, generally.

That’s another discussion, though. I’ll put together a more full reply later on.

Forlæte þín oferhygdnes.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
7 years ago

Guess who’s bringing up 9/11 in this thread? (hint – it wasn’t me)

Yeah, it was me. The one you’ve been ignoring. What, do I scare you?

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
7 years ago

@PeeVee
This muffuga ain’t new. @footz has been around. Used to comment more often actually, IIRC. Oldtimer? Yes. Regular? No

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
7 years ago

He sure is obsessed with the idea of someone stalking and doxxing him.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Axe: Thanks.

Proudfootz: mea culpa.

IP: yep.

eli
eli
7 years ago

@Axe

Love you, don’t see it on google. (about proudfootz)

not sure? I mean, I would argue the claim that I’m a regular poster. I’ve read since the moment Amanda Marcotte linked this site on the old pandagon with David’s very first post. Weirwoodtreehugger linked a thread from of old…seems like yesterday to me, but I didn’t speak up in those days. I was here, though. I’ve seen it all.

I posted a bit more, once I started, usually when I had a bit to drink. Sometimes to bad, sometimes really bad (I had a bad stretch with one anti-palestine troll). Sometimes to despair. Usually to despair…reaching out when I had no one in my real life to reach out to.

You folks have helped me when I’ve asked for help and I am forever grateful. I’m trying to figure out how to get out of the pit I’ve found myself in, but recently I’ve figured, for the first time, remarkably, that life itself is the pit. And all I have to do is my best. I hope you all will welcome me as I try to do better.

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
7 years ago

First, you imply that that the Russian hacking story is just a conspiracy theory, and we shouldn’t take it seriously.

Then, you say, so what if it’s true, we do it to others, so why get upset when others do it to us.

When I make a comment about why we are allowed to care, you drop this turd:

Unadorned as this comment is, it would appear that if Putin interfered to help Clinton, then it would be OK?

Really?

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Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
7 years ago

@eli’s heels

Love you

<3

I would argue the claim that I’m a regular poster

And I would argue against your argument

reaching out when I had no one in my real life to reach out to

Mentioned this before, but I 1st commented hours after my granddad was buried. This place never was about tracking and mocking the new misogyny for me…

I hope you all will welcome me as I try to do better

Done deal, eli 🙂