Memeday has returned! Today’s installment consists of a one-question POP QUIZ.
Question: Where did I find the meme at the top of this post?
- The MGTOW subreddit
- A Voice for Men
- The Daily Stormer
I’ll give you the answer after this weirdly filtered picture of my cat Sweetie Pie Jonus:
And the answer is: The Daily Stormer.
In case you haven’t noticed yet, the Alt-Right movement — or at least the publicly visible portion of it — is made up almost entirely of dudes. They don’t talk about women much, but when they do, they talk about women almost exactly the same way that MGTOWs and MRAs talk about women.
Oh, sure, the Nazi types are more into chivalry and paternalism and all that “Kinder, Küche, Kirche” (children, kitchen, church) stuff than MRAs and MGTOWs are, seeing (white) women as little more than pretty baby incubators. But the neo-Nazis spend at least as much time complaining about white women as they do pedestalizing them.
And, like so many white MRAs, complaining that straight white dudes are the most oppressed creatures on planet earth.
“We are the only ones without privilege,” the Daily Stormer’s Andrew Anglin wrote after posting that meme. “Every other group – women, faggots and all non-whites – is being promoted above us.”
Sounds rough.
So how exactly can you tell misogynistic Nazi memes about evil allegedly privileged white ladies from MRA memes about evil allegedly privileged white ladies?
Well, the MRAs tend to go with a different evil blonde lady in their memes. Namely, this gal:
I did a whole post about her once upon a time. The original stock photo didn’t include the gun. MRAs added it because they evidently felt she wasn’t EEEEEEEVIL enough.
So PZ Myers came across a particularly ridiculous broscience misogynist. It’s… interesting. Also super creepy.
Here.
@John,
Re creepy telomerase guy:
I’m having a complete mind blank about who, but one of the mammotheers posted this on another thread. So many threads and posts lately! Sorry, person who posted it!
It’s hilarious, isn’t it? And oooh, that science, though 😀
I think Spokane Telomerase deserves a spot in the WHTM terrible meme hall of fame, myself.
Falconer linked to that post in the Carrie Fisher thread. He reminds me of that Government Gets Girlfriends guy who trolled every feminist/feminist-leaning blog including this one in 2012 or 2013 or so. He thought the government should set incels up on dates, propositioned his own mother and said his parents should be executed for not finding him a girlfriend. He might be the creepiest dude on the planet but since he appears to have disappeared from the internet, Spokane sperm and food pic perv might be about to take the crown.
Sometimes I’m really glad to have “hit the wall” so I get targeted by these miscreants less often.
Now I’m going to have to beg David to do a post about this guy again.
http://38.media.tumblr.com/d42f40555947c0b955ffbfc6f73fe8ce/tumblr_nwn2jnP3Pl1ucw7ggo1_400.gif
Oh lord, GGG. I found him genuinely scary in a way that I didn’t find NWOslave or MRALT. Also sad. Like jesus, buddy, go jerk off before you have an aneurysm.
But I don’t feel bad for telomerase dude. He is voluntarily not looking for women his age. He has no one to blame but himself.
Is this the same guy as GGG, do you think? I just distracted myself from work with a few minutes’ googling and now I don’t feel at all well.
I wasn’t a regular here when GGG was around, so not sure if this is him.
I’m going to stare at wwth’s gorgeous begging kitten for a while now, until the nausea passes.
His website is also a treasure trove of creepy and it looks like a 90s Geocities site which is should be just the thing to attract all the trendy young girls.
http://conversationrage.weebly.com/
Who knew that older male apple trees are into young female apple trees? And by the way, he’s not at all creepy! Would you call a salmon creepy? Huh? Would you? Ridiculous!
I’m heartbroken.
http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Just+back+away+slowly+and+runnnnnnn_c189d9_3839276.gif
Who wouldn’t want to date a stranger that is threatening to kill himself if she won’t mate with him?
So, it’s bigoted for a young woman to want a guy her own age, but it’s not bigoted for him to reject women his own age? He also appears to be demanding that if the reader is not an 18-26 year old woman, we’d better transform ourselves into one or he’ll kill himself. That’s probably just bad writing though.
That’s interesting. I only trust people who come with me to Chilli’s.
When has this ever been an effective way to pick up chicks?
Nothing says consent like “fuck me or I’ll kill myself and it will all be your fault.” I don’t even want to know what hammer of love means.
You’re sick and hateful! Why don’t you want to go out to dinner with me!?
What the fucking fuckity fuck? Eeeewwwwww!!!!!
And seriously, what is it with this guy and Red Robin?
Wut.
For a guy who keeps claiming to be liberal, he sure seems to share with the religious right the belief that women are property. Young men (who he’s addressing here) are not going to bequeath their girlfriends on you. THAT’S NOT HOW IT WORKS!
Oh my.
Whoa. That’s like, deep.
Yep. Definitely the 2nd coming of Government Gets Girlfriends.
I wonder if on his 38th birthday, if he somehow doesn’t manage to woo any young women with this, will he want a 12 year mandatory age gap?
I won’t take no for an answer. How dare you call me creepy, rapey or a monster!?
Okay. That got way too long but once I started, I couldn’t stop!
In all seriousness, I’m afraid this guy is going to become homicidal though.
JFC, WWTH, thanks for taking that on. I never went and looked at his website, and now I’m a lot more concerned about him. Good lord.
Now, I know his tagline is “Conversation Our Age”, but his webside addy, conversationrage is much more apropos…
Seconding Falconer’s gratitude to WWTH for delving into that site.
@Moocow:
In lieu of goo, may I offer you some aptly named glitter gel?
http://smhttp.35773.nexcesscdn.net/801112D/magento/media/customoptions/1308/160188/4/unicorn_snot_blue.jpg
Ya know how we social justice types sometimes talk about people’s genitals in order to be inclusive of folks’ gender identities? Yeah, it’s weird when nazis do it. Ewww…
No misandrist like a misogynist
@Axe
Ain’t no Sharia Law like a christian one /s
@Mish
Pardon my lateness, but yes, those two are one and the same. I recall from days spent browsing Fundies Say The Darndest Things. Also look for a Coconut spewing the same things–and probably a few other aliases that I can’t be bothered to recall.
re: telo dude
….Welp.
@Troubelle, thanks for the confirmation. I’m kind of relieved that there’s only one GGG. His blog is as disturbing as Telomerase Guy’s, if that were possible.
Also, you really must stop apologising for being late, esp. when you’re not even late :). Some of us here have been known to reply on threads daaaaaaaaays after.
@PeeVee, I was going to to say the same thing about conversationrage!
@Oogly
1)canon law? Not exactly the same thing, but it makes the rhyme work
2)I’m pretty tired at this point of the way statements like yours* throw Muslims under the bus. Sharia means law (there’s more nuance, but you get the idea), so the whole thing is redundant and shows profound ignorance of the topic. And Sharia isn’t necessarily a literal code of state enforced laws. Things as simple as eating halal of one’s own volition is Sharia. Conflating the personal choice to ‘dress modestly’ with Saudi executions is why Kansas keeps tryna ban it. Sharia is used as a boogeyman on the ‘right’ and a punchline on the ‘left’. So, yeah, tired…
*You’re cool, just ranting 🙂
@Mish
I just find it an unfortunate tendency. My mother was and is always quite early to things when she can help it.
Meanwhile, I’m currently listening to a lovely ambient piece.
So…Mish and Falconer inspired me to look a little more into GGG, and it turnes out Encyclopedia Dramatica has an entry on him:
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Marjan_Siklic
So, about that creep from Spokane…
HOLY FUCKING MACK, dude, that is NOT how telomeres/telomerase/etc. work. And if you think young women MUST reproduce with older men in order for nature to do its thing optimally, you should know that kids with older fathers have an increased risk of health problems that’s at least as worrisome as that of kids with older mothers.
In short: You are not prime sexual real estate, and your bad biological excuses for your socially conditioned tastes just make you even less desirable. “Love me or I kill myself” won’t work, either. (Why ARE you still here, anyway? Liar.)
And oh yeah: Never mind the 10-page manifesto. If your name ain’t Marx or Engels, your manifesto doesn’t fucking interest anyone. Spare the world the eye-bugging torture of having to read your Deep Thoughts™, dude.
Turns out GGG is ickier than I ever needed to know, and I’m coming out of that rabbit hole right now!
I’ll read Owly over Marjan any day.
I could not stop reading GGG’s blog for half an hour. I eventually made myself leave it. It’s somehow even worse than I thought it was and I knew it was pretty bad. I also didn’t know he was still posting although he seems to be less active.
@Axe
No worries mate, a rant a day keeps submission to evil at bay. If only they informed themselves on Sharia beyond hate osmosis, then again if any of them did hey wouldn’t be as alt right anymore.
Aaand I just got to the part where Creepy Spokane Dude talks about his sperm being beneficial. In the form of BJs and anal sex, even.
I’m so queasy, I can’t even throw up.
@Oogly
Stealing this 😀
Creepy Spokane Dude is remarkable for how quickly he pivots from “I offer you the chance to sex me up, young women, for the many benefits you will receive!” to “if you don’t fuck me you’re a bunch of entitled bitches who deserve what you get.” Whoosh, I think I got whiplash.
@PeeVee
While Encyclopedia Dramatica isn’t precisely the most….rigorous information source, the information there holds up with what I’ve learned about him. Eugh.
I just saw a post about that ConversationRage dude over on Tumblr. Dude was salty because he got banned from a Starbucks after passing a note asking for a
datedinner to a (possibly 16 year old) barista who made the mistake of telling him he was funny. It’s on @WhatBigotsPost.